Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-05 Thread Anders Wallin
> BTW, the splitting is usually done with the octtree approach (which was > mentioned before). > It can still generate a huge amount of data. If you want a block of 10" > split down to 1mil (0.001"), or 4 orders of magnitude, then you need a > tree-depth of 14. That would be worst case 10^12 leaf n

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-05 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 12/05/2013 12:05 PM, Bertho Stultiens wrote: > The voxel approach is a valid one. You can reduce the data-set size by > merging voxels in a plane and volume. There are tree-algorithms to > handle such cases and there is an advantage that you only need to split, > never merge. However, using tree

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-05 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 12/05/2013 11:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: >> But showing and moving machine and vises is a minor thing compared to >> material removal I think. Although I don't think it is trivial. > I wonder if a voxel-based approach is simpler, but it rather depends > on the required precision. > If 1mm voxels on

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 December 2013 10:40, Dirk wrote: > But showing and moving machine and vises is a minor thing compared to > material removal I think. Although I don't think it is trivial. I wonder if a voxel-based approach is simpler, but it rather depends on the required precision. If 1mm voxels on a 100mm

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-05 Thread Dirk
On 04-Dec-13 8:22 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > On 12/4/2013 6:53 AM, bigengineer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am interested in this too. I have been silent here for a long time, >> (and was never really active either). But this is something where I >> might, semi-intelligently, help. :-) >> >> Long ago I t

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 12/4/2013 6:53 AM, bigengineer wrote: > Hi, > > I am interested in this too. I have been silent here for a long time, > (and was never really active either). But this is something where I > might, semi-intelligently, help. :-) > > Long ago I tried what openscad could do with substracting a cylin

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-04 Thread bigengineer
Hi, I am interested in this too. I have been silent here for a long time, (and was never really active either). But this is something where I might, semi-intelligently, help. :-) Long ago I tried what openscad could do with substracting a cylinder moving along a path. I wasn't impressed with t

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-26 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/25/2013 08:09 PM, Bertho Stultiens wrote: > However, I've been thinking about exporting to an openSCAD script > through rs274 (or sai through linking tolibrs274.so). I did a really quick hack to export the feed movement to a script and could create a 3D representation of the cut result (is i

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/25/2013 04:26 PM, John Murphy wrote: > I use opensCAM and it works great, trivial install on ubuntu. Well, I tried to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS in a VM, but it locks up X all the time. However, I've been thinking about exporting to an openSCAD script through rs274 (or sai through linking tol

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread John Murphy
I use opensCAM and it works great, trivial install on ubuntu. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Bertho Stultiens wrote: > On 11/25/2013 10:25 AM, Dave Caroline wrote: >> I have not seen http://openscam.com/ mentioned yet. >> also there are a couple of other experiments >> http://www.anderswallin

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread Dave Caroline
Perhaps I could mention a possible marriage as all the possible options of machines are very varied most cannot be simulated unless you use the same stuff that the machine uses itself so the machine can be simulated already by the vismach in some cases just needs knowledge of the tool table and use

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 November 2013 14:17, Bertho Stultiens wrote: > > That would be a good idea. The rs274 binary could be used as a front-end > for many other things too. But I guess that would be a matter for the > emc-develop list and a patch in that direction. Rather than rs274ngc in the code, have a look

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/25/2013 02:47 PM, Anders Wallin wrote: > I have a feeling many of these CAD/CAM things require more knowledge than > fits in the average open-source developers brain. I would not quite put it like that. There are some brilliant people out there. Not all will perform equally on all subjects.

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread Anders Wallin
Hi all, I have a feeling many of these CAD/CAM things require more knowledge than fits in the average open-source developers brain. the code for my efforts is at: https://github.com/aewallin/libcutsim *your* help/patches is required with: - use of the linuxcnc g-code interpreter (through c++ or

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/25/2013 10:25 AM, Dave Caroline wrote: > I have not seen http://openscam.com/ mentioned yet. > also there are a couple of other experiments > http://www.anderswallin.net/tag/cutsim/ > gdepth at http://emergent.unpythonic.net/01169521961 This is a bit of a sad story... I too have been looking

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread Dave Caroline
I have not seen http://openscam.com/ mentioned yet. also there are a couple of other experiments http://www.anderswallin.net/tag/cutsim/ gdepth at http://emergent.unpythonic.net/01169521961 Dave Caroline On 25/11/2013, andy pugh wrote: > On 25 November 2013 01:56, Steve Blackmore wrote: > >> >>

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 November 2013 01:56, Steve Blackmore wrote: > > I've never found that a simulation program runs better than the > controller, or CAM program your going to use. > ... > Even with all that, I always air run a new job 30mm above the real thing > and see how it runs. >

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-24 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:53:05 -0700, you wrote: >I like the idea of a 3D simulation of a CNC machine to verify there >won't be any surprises when it comes to real milling. I've never found that a simulation program runs better than the controller, or CAM program your going to use. I'm fortunate,

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On 25 November 2013 00:27, Bruce Layne wrote: > > I have it on good authority that CutViewer runs well under Wine if you > can accept a non-native Linux solution, The grz web site says that their primary development system runs under Parallels (presumably on a Mac) which bodes well for its port

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-24 Thread Bruce Layne
On 11/24/2013 07:17 PM, andy pugh wrote: > I have had a quick play with the demo version of the simulator by the same > folk as MeshCAM. > http://www.grzsoftware.com/cutviewer/ > It probably isn't as good as Vericut. But then Vericut is 28x more > expensive. > It also isn't open-source, nor does

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 November 2013 23:53, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > > Vericut looks good, but I bet the price is also of matching quality. > To answer a question other than the one you asked: I have had a quick play with the demo version of the simulator my the same folk as MeshCAM. http://www.grzsoftware.com/cu

[Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman
I like the idea of a 3D simulation of a CNC machine to verify there won't be any surprises when it comes to real milling. Vericut looks good, but I bet the price is also of matching quality. -- Shape the Mobile Experienc