Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-09 Thread N
> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 09:58, N wrote: > > > It's in e09ae64fb0a76355b4f559e28c91a29fb25af8ce but did not see it in old > > 2.8 version bef8d9d525b9d483a4cf97a1040289d1aaddc74f > > That's a big gap: >

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-09 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 09:58, N wrote: > It's in e09ae64fb0a76355b4f559e28c91a29fb25af8ce but did not see it in old > 2.8 version bef8d9d525b9d483a4cf97a1040289d1aaddc74f That's a big gap:

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard), wrong about old version

2020-07-09 Thread N
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 22:14, N wrote: > > > I do not consider it a big problem and will probably connect other jogging > > method once machine is up and running but as it worked in old version it > > would of course be good to get it perfect again. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-09 Thread N
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 22:14, N wrote: > > > I do not consider it a big problem and will probably connect other jogging > > method once machine is up and running but as it worked in old version it > > would of course be good to get it perfect again. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard), also in sim

2020-07-08 Thread N
Using halscope I could see it is also in sim, change in speed is less but guess this is because of maximum acceleration allowed. > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 22:14, N wrote: > > > I do not consider it a big problem and will probably connect other jogging > > method once machine is up and running

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-08 Thread N
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 22:14, N wrote: > > > I do not consider it a big problem and will probably connect other jogging > > method once machine is up and running but as it worked in old version it > > would of course be good to get it perfect again. >

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 July 2020 19:45:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 07 July 2020 19:23:28 Phill Carter wrote: > > This post on the forum seemed to solve a similar issue. > > > > >xc

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-08 Thread N
"xset -r" and jogging is smooth. Auto repeat must be the problem, false key up. Andy pugh suggested reverting to e09ae64fb0a76355b4f559e28c91a29fb25af8ce and this https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/commit/29f52a6e2be42f7785e965a7002eaecf33f0b7aa#diff-5368256524ea7313310fa9c396bbbcf2 but need

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 July 2020 19:23:28 Phill Carter wrote: > This post on the forum seemed to solve a similar issue. > > nc-2-9-jogging-velocity-fluctuations?start=10#165711> > That also makes perfect sense. The stutter then is a

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-07 Thread Phill Carter
This post on the forum seemed to solve a similar issue. > On 8 Jul 2020, at 8:21 am, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 July 2020 17:25:21 andy pugh wrote: > >> On

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 July 2020 17:25:21 andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 22:14, N wrote: > > I do not consider it a big problem and will probably connect other > > jogging method once machine is up and running but as it worked in > > old version it would of course be good to get it perfect

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 22:14, N wrote: > I do not consider it a big problem and will probably connect other jogging > method once machine is up and running but as it worked in old version it > would of course be good to get it perfect again.

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-07 Thread N
> On 07/06/2020 07:05 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > > One thing I find my wireless keyboard does sometimes is that a key can get > > "sticky wirelessly". Mostly when I'm typing I sometimes get a "" > > until It suddenly stops. I'm mostly using the keyboard for signing in and > > modify

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/06/2020 07:05 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: One thing I find my wireless keyboard does sometimes is that a key can get "sticky wirelessly". Mostly when I'm typing I sometimes get a "" until It suddenly stops. I'm mostly using the keyboard for signing in and modify the tool table

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-07 Thread N
> One thing I find my wireless keyboard does sometimes is that a key can get > "sticky wirelessly". Mostly when I'm typing I sometimes get a "" > until It suddenly stops. I'm mostly using the keyboard for signing in and > modify the tool table etc, but since I'm using axis I sometimes

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-06 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
One thing I find my wireless keyboard does sometimes is that a key can get "sticky wirelessly". Mostly when I'm typing I sometimes get a "" until It suddenly stops. I'm mostly using the keyboard for signing in and modify the tool table etc, but since I'm using axis I sometimes think it

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-06 Thread N
> On 7/6/20 8:21 AM, N wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:08:44 -0500 > > Ed wrote: > > > > > > Nailed it. Jogged for a minute or so without a sign of problem using the > > mouse and onscreen buttons withot a sign of problem. > > > > First thing I think about is auto repeat. > > > That is what I

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-06 Thread Ed
On 7/6/20 8:21 AM, N wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:08:44 -0500 Ed wrote: Nailed it. Jogged for a minute or so without a sign of problem using the mouse and onscreen buttons withot a sign of problem. First thing I think about is auto repeat. That is what I found with the cheap keyboards.

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-06 Thread N
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:08:44 -0500 Ed wrote: > On 7/6/20 7:48 AM, N wrote: > >> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 11:26, N wrote: > >> > >> > > First try rejected because of size but cropped this one. Attached is > > pictures of joint.0.vel-cmd which is the first signal I am looking at, not > > sure what

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread Ed
On 7/6/20 7:48 AM, N wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 11:26, N wrote: First try rejected because of size but cropped this one. Attached is pictures of joint.0.vel-cmd which is the first signal I am looking at, not sure what to look at more right now. It is a wireless keyboard but see no

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread N
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 11:26, N wrote: > > > > Exactly which HAL pins are you looking at. > > > > I am looking at the "vel" field on the axis display > > Ah, right. I think that is commanded. So then the question is whether > the keyboard is sending key-up events. > > I repeat that a Halscope

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Now that I read this, I feel the need to tell that I experienced this behaviour from time to time in 2.8 but with the manual jog lever (wich is connected thru a 7i73) not the keyboard. It felt mostly like a switch not making good contact but I'll check this with halscope later when I'm at the

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 11:26, N wrote: > > Exactly which HAL pins are you looking at. > > I am looking at the "vel" field on the axis display Ah, right. I think that is commanded. So then the question is whether the keyboard is sending key-up events. I repeat that a Halscope plot of the

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread N
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 10:43, N wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 09:14, N wrote: > > > > > > > > sometimes but not always visible in "vel" field > > > > > > _which_ "vel" ? > > > > Both low and high velocity but on low velocity jerk is much smaller. > > (Losing patience) > > Exactly

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 10:43, N wrote: > > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 09:14, N wrote: > > > > > > sometimes but not always visible in "vel" field > > > > _which_ "vel" ? > > Both low and high velocity but on low velocity jerk is much smaller. (Losing patience) Exactly which HAL pins are you

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread N
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 09:14, N wrote: > > > > sometimes but not always visible in "vel" field > > _which_ "vel" ? Both low and high velocity but on low velocity jerk is much smaller. It is only then running against hardware and have not seen it in sim. Old version of 2.8 is OK but not

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 09:14, N wrote: > > sometimes but not always visible in "vel" field _which_ "vel" ? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread N
> > Keyboard. sim seems OK. Running against hardware and it sometimes show up > > in the "vel" field > > Which particular pin? > > it is probably worth running a Halscope on the position / vel commands. > > Try unplugging the mouse. Old version 2.8.0~pre1 is OK but do not know exact version