Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 16:28, dave engvall wrote: > I've always done this the hard way by going > back to the CAM. My brain is pretty well fried but I think a bit of > matrix algebra would do this for you. There is no need for complex maths. You can mirror a part simply by changing the sign of

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread R C
/an origin. It makes the math in the wizard much simpler, especially when you are doing something like rotating a rectangle. Alan From: Jon Elson Subject: Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off" Date: September 10, 2020 at 9:04:23 PM CDT To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread N
is called so that the wizard works with respect to the/an > origin. It makes the math in the wizard much simpler, especially when you are > doing something like rotating a rectangle. > > Alan > > > From: Jon Elson > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Of

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread R C
well, I am comfortable with matrix algebra, but it's probably easier, more practical, to just do that part in freecad or so, and use a separate g code file for that. I was just wondering  what these different coordinate systems are, what they are used for. On 9/11/20 9:26 AM, dave engvall

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread dave engvall
IIRC some controls have a switch to do this.  Also I think you can flip the sign of one axis and get a mirror image but the sense of the cut (climb/conventional) also flips so unless your machine is pretty tight dimensions may also shift. I've always done this the hard way by going back to the

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread R C
Hello Andy, That is interesting, I should learn more about these coordinate systems.  From a math/geometry perspective  there nothing that could keep you from translating, rotating (and even more weird transformations)  a geometry into a custom one. However in an implementation, of course,

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread Alan Condit
when you are doing something like rotating a rectangle. Alan > From: Jon Elson > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off" > Date: September 10, 2020 at 9:04:23 PM CDT > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > On 09/10/2020 08:28 PM, R

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 05:22, R C wrote: > It sounds like the coordinate systems in essence are the same, they > just have a different origin, for all the other parts, it's just the > same thing, just translated and/or rotated for another part? Yes, and there is also only rotation about the

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread R C
ah ok, It sounds like the coordinate systems in essence are the same,  they just have a different origin, for all the other parts,   it's just the same thing, just translated and/or rotated for another part? Ron On 9/10/20 8:04 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 09/10/2020 08:28 PM, R C wrote: I

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/10/2020 08:28 PM, R C wrote: I figured out the "touch off", and that it 'works' the same as homing, functionally. I wondered what all the different coordinate systems are for, their differnces. (I know what a coordinat system is, mathematician here.) This allows you to set up an

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread R C
I figured out the "touch off", and that it 'works' the same as homing, functionally. I wondered what all the different coordinate systems are for, their differnces. (I know what a coordinat system is, mathematician here.) Ron On 9/10/20 6:53 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 09/10/2020 05:59

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/10/2020 05:59 PM, R C wrote: I was just playing with it a bit, I have the idea, that , like homing is done per axis, "touching Off" is done per axis too? Yes, you should be able to select the axis that is to have its offset changed and then enter what that coordinate should be set to.

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread R C
On 9/10/20 5:49 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 10 September 2020 18:50:03 jrmitchellj wrote: On a Mill setup, touch-off only affects the Z axis. You will need to find your X0, and Y0 positions. I use the end key to bring up the dialog and set the offset. --J. Ray Mitchell Jr.

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 22:51, R C wrote: > this is probably a rookie question, but sometime when I do a "Touch > Off", the Z-position indeed becomes 0, but the X and Y are not. Then > in teh axis program, it will still go to the "first" spot where it needs > to start milling There are two

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 10 September 2020 18:59:09 R C wrote: > I was just playing with it a bit, > > > I have the idea, that , like homing is done per axis, "touching Off" > is done per axis too? > yes, and has forever here. > > thanks, > > > Ron > > On 9/10/20 4:50 PM, jrmitchellj wrote: > > On a Mill

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 10 September 2020 18:50:03 jrmitchellj wrote: > On a Mill setup, touch-off only affects the Z axis. You will need to > find your X0, and Y0 positions. I use the end key to bring up the > dialog and set the offset. > > --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. > jrmitche...@gmail.com > It works for all

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread R C
yup,  that's why I noticed too.  I thought "touch off" would be more like "this is (0, 0, 0)"  and just hit that button once... I guess I got lucky a few times. On 9/10/20 5:28 PM, Dave Matthews wrote: That is how I do it. There are three radio buttons, one for each axis. It defaults to

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread Dave Matthews
That is how I do it. There are three radio buttons, one for each axis. It defaults to the last axis moved which is usually z. Dave On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 19:01 R C wrote: > I was just playing with it a bit, > > > I have the idea, that , like homing is done per axis, "touching Off" is > done

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread R C
I was just playing with it a bit, I have the idea, that , like homing is done per axis, "touching Off" is done per axis too? thanks, Ron On 9/10/20 4:50 PM, jrmitchellj wrote: On a Mill setup, touch-off only affects the Z axis. You will need to find your X0, and Y0 positions. I

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread jrmitchellj
On a Mill setup, touch-off only affects the Z axis. You will need to find your X0, and Y0 positions. I use the end key to bring up the dialog and set the offset. --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com "Good enough is the enemy of excellence"author unknown On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 2:51

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-10 Thread R C
Hello, this is probably a rookie question, but sometime when I do a "Touch Off",  the Z-position indeed becomes 0,  but the X and Y are not.   Then in teh axis program, it will still go to the "first" spot where it needs to start milling, and in the  drawing it fllows the correct