Re: [Emc-users] Latency problem

2013-03-28 Thread bjørn
Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 15:25:31 -0400 From: Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency problem To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 5150a4ab.6050...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;

Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-28 Thread Roberto Sassoli
Il 27/03/2013 23:41, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto: Message: 2 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:35:24 +0100 From: Peter Blodowp.blo...@dreki.de Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 March 2013 09:35, Roberto Sassoli bobwolf@gmail.com wrote: i've downloaded the last xilinx program but i don't understand how can modify the .xml .BIT and .PIN files included in hostmot's firmware linux Those are not the files you need to change. The input files to the Xilinix

Re: [Emc-users] convert g1s to g2/3s

2013-03-28 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
G64 does this for you without changing the code. See http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/gcode.html#sec:G64 for more details. On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Frank Tkalcevic fr...@franksworkshop.com.au wrote: Does anyone know of a script that converts G1 line segments into G2/G3

Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, When a control requests a speed from a motor it will send a signal to the drive ex 500 rpm. The drive wants to put out 500 rpm of current to the motor but it cannot because the motor is not turning. The drive knows this because the tach feedback is zero (the motor is not turning).

Re: [Emc-users] Latency problem

2013-03-28 Thread Kent A. Reed
continuing our dialog about the latency spikes bjørn is observing with his Intel D525MW MB On 3/28/2013 5:23 AM, bjørn wrote: that I bought the power supply together with the D525MW board. here are a link - http://www.ebay.com/itm/160721043666?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

[Emc-users] Fwd: Re: tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread TJoseph Powderly
does not appear on mail list yet is timestamped as 1st reply to thread, why? Original Message Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:57:03 -0500 From: TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Re: tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/28/2013 9:04 AM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: does not appear on mail list yet is timestamped as 1st reply to thread, why? Original Message Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:57:03 -0500 From: TJoseph Powderlytjt...@gmail.com To: Enhanced

Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-28 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 03/28/2013 04:35 AM, Roberto Sassoli wrote: Il 27/03/2013 23:41, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto: Message: 2 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:35:24 +0100 From: Peter Blodowp.blo...@dreki.de Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

Re: [Emc-users] convert g1s to g2/3s

2013-03-28 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/28/2013 7:56 AM, BRIAN GLACKIN wrote: G64 does this for you without changing the code. See http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/gcode.html#sec:G64 for more details. On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Frank Tkalcevic fr...@franksworkshop.com.au wrote: Does anyone know of a script

Re: [Emc-users] Gigabyte GA-E350N Latency numbers

2013-03-28 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:45 PM, James Boulton james.boul...@xtra.co.nz wrote: I have run the latency test for a Gigabyte GA-350N motherboard. On first boot (ran with glxgears and updating 140 add packages through the system updates): Servo thread Max: 11411ns Base thread Max: 10233ns

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Re: tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 03/28/2013 08:17 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 3/28/2013 9:04 AM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: does not appear on mail list yet is timestamped as 1st reply to thread, why? Original Message Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:57:03 -0500 From:

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Re: tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/28/2013 9:57 AM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: On 03/28/2013 08:17 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 3/28/2013 9:04 AM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: does not appear on mail list yet is timestamped as 1st reply to thread, why? Original Message Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Re: tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 03/28/2013 09:17 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 3/28/2013 9:57 AM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: On 03/28/2013 08:17 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 3/28/2013 9:04 AM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: does not appear on mail list yet is timestamped as 1st reply to thread, why? Original Message

Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-28 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Robert concerning permissions to use the programming hardware, also the web notes say to restart udev, issue /etc/init.d/boot.udev restart no, use sudo service udev restart hth regards tomp -- Own the

[Emc-users] email replies dont show in my inbox

2013-03-28 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 03/28/2013 09:17 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: snip Aha! You probably just need to adjust your list subscription. I don't recall the setting offhand, but the list server lets you choose either to get your own messages reflected back to you or not. success ( well at least i get a msg saying its

Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:05:01 -0500 From: Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: dengv...@charter.net, Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread dave
On Thu, 2013-03-28 at 07:05 -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, snip Everyone says the drive/motor servo tuning is the best but if that is the case why is there tuning capability in LinuxCNC? Obviously, it is not good enough or no effort would be expended in making it better. I will

Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, The ultimate goal is simplification. When I am tuning a servo system I am not tuning the motor as much as I am tuning the already tuned servo/motor system. This piles tuning upon tuning and seems more complicated than it needs to be. I am trying to dumb down the drive so the

Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: I ask this because I want to remove the drive tuning from the system. Everyone says the drive/motor servo tuning is the best but if that is the case why is there tuning capability in LinuxCNC? Obviously, it is not good enough or no effort would be expended in making it

Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Jon, Will your amps handle the motors on my Cinci? thanks Stuart On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Stuart Stevenson wrote: I ask this because I want to remove the drive tuning from the system. Everyone says the drive/motor servo tuning is the best

Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread Chris Radek
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:51:12AM -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote: I am trying to dumb down the drive so the LinuxCNC tuning is directly effecting the motor motion instead of manipulating the tuned servo system. My VMC uses velocity mode amps with tachs, and I had one tach that would

Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Heh, I have been getting practice with the soldering iron removing parts BUT that is on a board with no intention of it ever working again. I am just harvesting plugs to use. I would be very afraid to try this on a board with any life left. :) On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Chris Radek

Re: [Emc-users] Latency problem

2013-03-28 Thread bjørn
snip /I keep mulling over this 5-6 hours observation. I know we recommend running the latency test for a long time but I don't think we understand why these spiking events show up rarely. It's all well and good to blame power saving features in modern CPUs but they are functioning over much

[Emc-users] general questions

2013-03-28 Thread Wesley Moore
I'm trying to answer a couple of general questions that don't seem like an easy find on the wiki, etc. Yes I know there are many contributing factors involved on accurate answers, so a rough ballpark is all I'm looking for. Without additional hardware: How many encoder counts per second can be

Re: [Emc-users] general questions

2013-03-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 March 2013 20:29, Wesley Moore wmo...@jlab.org wrote: Without additional hardware: How many encoder counts per second can be handled? 20kHz, maybe 50 on a really low latency machine What is the PWM frequency range available? About the same for PDM. For true PWM divide by the

Re: [Emc-users] convert g1s to g2/3s

2013-03-28 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
I have an extruder attached to my cnc router. I've never had much luck with G64. The default settings always round off sharp corners. I usually use G64 P0.1, which doesn't make much difference to the speed. I managed to get the Douglas-Peucker algorithm working. It shaved 4 minutes off a 20

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Re: tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 28 March 2013 17:58:34 TJoseph Powderly did opine: On 03/28/2013 09:17 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 3/28/2013 9:57 AM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: On 03/28/2013 08:17 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 3/28/2013 9:04 AM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: does not appear on mail list yet is

Re: [Emc-users] Latency problem

2013-03-28 Thread Jason Burton
On Mar 28, 2013 2:58 PM, bjørn bj...@spesmek.no wrote: snip /I keep mulling over this 5-6 hours observation. I know we recommend running the latency test for a long time but I don't think we understand why these spiking events show up rarely. It's all well and good to blame power saving

Re: [Emc-users] convert g1s to g2/3s

2013-03-28 Thread jeremy youngs
should the look ahead not resolve this ??? -- jeremy youngs -- Own the Future-Intel(R) Level Up Game Demo Contest 2013 Rise to greatness in Intel's independent game demo contest. Compete for recognition, cash, and the

Re: [Emc-users] Gigabyte GA-E350N Latency numbers

2013-03-28 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Thu, 3/28/13, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@gmail.com wrote: Nice, but the sad thing is that high-performance video drivers tend to hit latency (Nvidia is particularly infamous). If you succeed making Radeon drivers to run please re-run the latency tests and report the results.

[Emc-users] 3rd axis for plasma table really needed?

2013-03-28 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Watched a lot of plasma table action on Youtube last night. All but one had the torch on a z axis mount which raised up between cuts then went down to touch the metal and back up to cutting height before the start of each cut. The one that didn't had a simple hand crank to set the height. Other

Re: [Emc-users] convert g1s to g2/3s

2013-03-28 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
But, as you say, my fundamental issue is losing the curve information when I convert my CAD models to STL. This will go into the too hard basket for now - the waterline processing sounds interesting, but I'm put off by having to process a CAD file. Thanks, Frank Frank A few random of

[Emc-users] Insmod and permisssions

2013-03-28 Thread andy pugh
I am altering my new matrix_kb component to not only compile in sim/userland mode, but to also function. I think I am pretty much there. It uses uinput, which needs to be loaded with modprobe, and then the /dev/uinput file needs its permissions changing. It seems to me that there should be a way

Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: Jon, Will your amps handle the motors on my Cinci I may get your machines confused, but I think the Cinci has Gettys motors and amps. The motors are 8 pole DC brush, and very low voltage and very high current. My understanding of the Gettys history is they used huge

Re: [Emc-users] tach feedback

2013-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: My VMC uses velocity mode amps with tachs, and I had one tach that would sometimes give a bumpy output that would cause a banging once per screw revolution. Maxon and Escap motors are made with exactly the

Re: [Emc-users] general questions

2013-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
Wesley Moore wrote: I'm trying to answer a couple of general questions that don't seem like an easy find on the wiki, etc. Yes I know there are many contributing factors involved on accurate answers, so a rough ballpark is all I'm looking for. Without additional hardware: How many encoder

Re: [Emc-users] Latency problem

2013-03-28 Thread Dave
You won't have any issues with the D525MW and an SSD on that Pico power supply. I have used several and never had a failure yet. Some have 3+ years on them now..running 24x7. Dave On 3/28/2013 2:53 PM, bjørn wrote: snip /I keep mulling over this 5-6 hours observation. I know we recommend

Re: [Emc-users] 3rd axis for plasma table really needed?

2013-03-28 Thread Dave
If you are cutting thinner metal it will warp and the THC is needed for that.. Dave On 3/28/2013 6:40 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Watched a lot of plasma table action on Youtube last night. All but one had the torch on a z axis mount which raised up between cuts then went down to touch the

[Emc-users] Machine Resolution

2013-03-28 Thread Clint Washburn
Can someone point me to where I can find how to change the machine units resolution in axis? As the default for inch is 0. I would like to go out to 0.0. What would I need to change to change the displayed resolution? --clint