Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
just for correctness: 0.1mm is about 4 thou, not 2.5 ... Cheers, Karl (a traveller between the metric and imperial parts of this planet) Am 07.04.2015 um 07:01 schrieb dave: On 04/06/2015 12:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 06 April 2015 14:12:31 John Alexander Stewart wrote: Hi all; Finally fixed the Oldham couplers for my X/Y axes on my latest build, and was measuring backlash for inserting in the LinuxCNC ini file. This is for a G0704 style of mill conversion, using one of those kits from the old KeilingCNC place. X/Y/Z is 0.1mm, 0.24mm 0.1mm or, 2.5 thou, 9 thou, 2.5 thou. The 2.5 thou is a bit loose, bigger balls in the nut perhaps? The 9 thou Y indicates either the thrust bearing at the solidly anchored end of the screw is duff, or perhaps not properly assembled. I was able to fix one of those in a cheap 16mmx5 Chinese screw on my toy lathes z by padding the outer ring separation with some half thou alu foil shims. Several of them stacked. Tricky to cut too. Seems to be holding up so far. Is this considered ok or out of range? I've put these figures in my mill ini file, and it's currently running the X and Y axes back and forth; will measure it again after a bit of wearing in. Any thoughts/comments? (as an aside, Andy Pugh's feedback for spindle soft-gearing works a treat - thank you again Andy) John. Let us know what you found John, it helps the next person with a similar problem. Cheers, Gene Heskett I've been dealing with a loose Y axis on my cinci contourmaster; this machine is set up so one can turn either the ballscrew or the servo motor to adjust position. The so-called lock on the servo end was loose and so the backlash was self-adjusting;out to unusable amounts. Ugh. I'm in the process of a dual fix ... complete rebuild the mount for the ballscrew so I can lock it down tight and add a 10 5 um glass scale for reference. For now I will connect just the glass scale with it's attendant tuning problems (just not quite enough counts) but the future holds a config where P and D are fed from a 40K count/in encoderon the ballscrew and I is driven by the glass scale in like manner to Stu's big machine. Some years ago I was asked to fab a bunch of blocks for a US First robotics team. Set them up and ran as a batch. When finished I miked them to see how I'd done. SD was 0.001 but the dimensions were all large by about 2 thou. This on a machine (mazak) with 0.0025 backlash on both X and Y. Appropriate cutter comp might have landed these in the right range if it made a difference. ;-) Just personal experience. Dave -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] PNCConf setup
Rick It should be something like this mesaflash --device 7i80 --addr 10.10.10.10 --write bitfilename.bit If you have not set a new IP in the eeprom you have to use the default IP of 192.168.1.121 -- Original Message -- From: Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: 2015-04-06 21:29:04 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PNCConf setup I should be able to run the mesaflash utility from my home directory, as long as the .bit file is in that directory correct? Also, I don't have to do anything jumper wise to make this happen do I? I tried running running the mesaflash --device 7i80 --write 7i80hd_16_rmesvss6_6.bit and all I get is No 7i80 board found I have not tried to do anything with the IP address yet. Be back at it in the morning, but will be checking email this evening, Thanks Rick -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
+0 -0 is an ok number for climb milling, which most CAM thinks it is ok to do for best finish, else you should program your paths for conventional milling where the play is taken up by the cutting force. Dave Caroline On 07/04/2015, Karl Jacobs karl.jac...@gmx.de wrote: just for correctness: 0.1mm is about 4 thou, not 2.5 ... Cheers, Karl (a traveller between the metric and imperial parts of this planet) Am 07.04.2015 um 07:01 schrieb dave: On 04/06/2015 12:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 06 April 2015 14:12:31 John Alexander Stewart wrote: Hi all; Finally fixed the Oldham couplers for my X/Y axes on my latest build, and was measuring backlash for inserting in the LinuxCNC ini file. This is for a G0704 style of mill conversion, using one of those kits from the old KeilingCNC place. X/Y/Z is 0.1mm, 0.24mm 0.1mm or, 2.5 thou, 9 thou, 2.5 thou. The 2.5 thou is a bit loose, bigger balls in the nut perhaps? The 9 thou Y indicates either the thrust bearing at the solidly anchored end of the screw is duff, or perhaps not properly assembled. I was able to fix one of those in a cheap 16mmx5 Chinese screw on my toy lathes z by padding the outer ring separation with some half thou alu foil shims. Several of them stacked. Tricky to cut too. Seems to be holding up so far. Is this considered ok or out of range? I've put these figures in my mill ini file, and it's currently running the X and Y axes back and forth; will measure it again after a bit of wearing in. Any thoughts/comments? (as an aside, Andy Pugh's feedback for spindle soft-gearing works a treat - thank you again Andy) John. Let us know what you found John, it helps the next person with a similar problem. Cheers, Gene Heskett I've been dealing with a loose Y axis on my cinci contourmaster; this machine is set up so one can turn either the ballscrew or the servo motor to adjust position. The so-called lock on the servo end was loose and so the backlash was self-adjusting;out to unusable amounts. Ugh. I'm in the process of a dual fix ... complete rebuild the mount for the ballscrew so I can lock it down tight and add a 10 5 um glass scale for reference. For now I will connect just the glass scale with it's attendant tuning problems (just not quite enough counts) but the future holds a config where P and D are fed from a 40K count/in encoderon the ballscrew and I is driven by the glass scale in like manner to Stu's big machine. Some years ago I was asked to fab a bunch of blocks for a US First robotics team. Set them up and ran as a batch. When finished I miked them to see how I'd done. SD was 0.001 but the dimensions were all large by about 2 thou. This on a machine (mazak) with 0.0025 backlash on both X and Y. Appropriate cutter comp might have landed these in the right range if it made a difference. ;-) Just personal experience. Dave -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
On Tuesday 07 April 2015 03:23:18 Karl Jacobs wrote: just for correctness: 0.1mm is about 4 thou, not 2.5 ... Cheers, Karl (a traveller between the metric and imperial parts of this planet) Yeah, fun ain't it. Not! We used to have a metric/inch convertor in kcalc a decade back, but the inch world doesn't have a quarter to call anyone who cares. I find myself making conversion errors all the time where my answer is off by a decimal point left or right. Whoever took that macro out of kcalc s/b drawn and quartered, very slowly. Working in electronics all my working life, metric is how that world runs. And it makes everthing so much simpler, but on this side of the pond, dial indicators come in inch only. Its plumb stupid. Either that or I need more naproxin sodium in my cold yesterdays coffee. ;-) Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:37 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: snippage Either that or I need more naproxin sodium in my cold yesterdays coffee. ;-) Cheers, Gene Heskett I prefer some Baileys, or even a wee dab of Jamesons. ;-) Mark -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
On Tuesday 07 April 2015 05:57:06 Mark Wendt wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:37 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: snippage Either that or I need more naproxin sodium in my cold yesterdays coffee. ;-) Cheers, Gene Heskett I prefer some Baileys, or even a wee dab of Jamesons. ;-) Mark Chuckle ;-) Obviously a man of good taste. :) Bailey's I have, but thats the wife's occasional nightcap, so I check the bottle occasionally to make sure its not empty yet, replace and sample a fresh one to make sure its good when it does go dry, :), but being diabetic, I generally stay out of it. I'd replace the Jamesons with Jack, Black neat when I have it. Out for the last 6 months. It takes me a couple years to do whatever passes for the not quite half gallon jug. 3 fingers in a jelly glass is about right reminds me what the good stuff tastes like, runs the sugar meter up 150 points yelling about ketones though. Obviously I don't do that very often either. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:30 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2015 05:57:06 Mark Wendt wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:37 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: snippage Either that or I need more naproxin sodium in my cold yesterdays coffee. ;-) Cheers, Gene Heskett I prefer some Baileys, or even a wee dab of Jamesons. ;-) Mark Chuckle ;-) Obviously a man of good taste. :) Bailey's I have, but thats the wife's occasional nightcap, so I check the bottle occasionally to make sure its not empty yet, replace and sample a fresh one to make sure its good when it does go dry, :), but being diabetic, I generally stay out of it. I'd replace the Jamesons with Jack, Black neat when I have it. Out for the last 6 months. It takes me a couple years to do whatever passes for the not quite half gallon jug. 3 fingers in a jelly glass is about right reminds me what the good stuff tastes like, runs the sugar meter up 150 points yelling about ketones though. Obviously I don't do that very often either. Cheers, Gene Heskett Those two things, along with chocolate, are the *only* things I'd ever add to my coffee. ;-) I'm usually a single malt scotch and cigar kinda guy, but I do enjoy the occasional bourbon. Got a hold of a bottle of Pappy's last year, and I gotta tell ya, if I had to give up my peaty whisky's for any reason, Pappy's would be my go-to. Mark -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] was: Backlash - what are ok numbers?
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2015 06:48:03 Mark Wendt wrote: Those two things, along with chocolate, are the *only* things I'd ever add to my coffee. ;-) Ours gets polluted a bit as its making, couple shakes of cinnamon on top of the dry grounds, followed by a shake or two of cumin. The cumin is highly active against intestinal cancers, and the cinnamon is a minor help toward me being able to burn sugar. THEN the missus might add a wee dab of Bailey's to hers if its the last cup of the day after dinner. Shes a cheap date, knocks her right out for the night. :) I'm usually a single malt scotch and cigar kinda guy, but I do enjoy the occasional bourbon. Got a hold of a bottle of Pappy's last year, and I gotta tell ya, if I had to give up my peaty whisky's for any reason, Pappy's would be my go-to. Mark Never heard of Pappy's, I'll try to remember that when I next hit that store. Cheers, Gene Heskett I usually like my coffee hot, strong, and black. I usually brew an Italian Roast. Pappy Van Winkle's. http://oldripvanwinkle.com/products/pappy-van-winkles-family-reserve-23yr/ Figure about $70 - $80 a bottle, depending on what the sin taxes are like in your area. ;-) -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] PNCConf setup
Good Morning Peter, You should not need to do this as the 7I80HD already has appropriate firmware installed I just went about trying this, becuase I remember our conversation on the forum, you supplied 7i80hd_16_rmesvss6_6.bit, due to me running the 7i49, and 7i52 off of the 7i80. Looking back at the forum I saw one of your replies, that That bitfile is also in the 7I80.zip support distribution zipfile. Does that mean that it will run what I need from the start then? and all I need to do change the IP address? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] was: Backlash - what are ok numbers?
On Tuesday 07 April 2015 06:48:03 Mark Wendt wrote: Chuckle ;-) Obviously a man of good taste. :) Bailey's I have, but thats the wife's occasional nightcap, so I check the bottle occasionally to make sure its not empty yet, replace and sample a fresh one to make sure its good when it does go dry, :), but being diabetic, I generally stay out of it. I'd replace the Jamesons with Jack, Black neat when I have it. Out for the last 6 months. It takes me a couple years to do whatever passes for the not quite half gallon jug. 3 fingers in a jelly glass is about right reminds me what the good stuff tastes like, runs the sugar meter up 150 points yelling about ketones though. Obviously I don't do that very often either. Cheers, Gene Heskett Those two things, along with chocolate, are the *only* things I'd ever add to my coffee. ;-) Ours gets polluted a bit as its making, couple shakes of cinnamon on top of the dry grounds, followed by a shake or two of cumin. The cumin is highly active against intestinal cancers, and the cinnamon is a minor help toward me being able to burn sugar. THEN the missus might add a wee dab of Bailey's to hers if its the last cup of the day after dinner. Shes a cheap date, knocks her right out for the night. :) I'm usually a single malt scotch and cigar kinda guy, but I do enjoy the occasional bourbon. Got a hold of a bottle of Pappy's last year, and I gotta tell ya, if I had to give up my peaty whisky's for any reason, Pappy's would be my go-to. Mark Never heard of Pappy's, I'll try to remember that when I next hit that store. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
Karl - Aaargh! And to think I used to work in imperial measurements only. Living around the world, now back in imperial land you'd think that I'd still be able to work in thous but looks like I can't! Thanks for the correction - John. -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup)
Hey Guys, I will start from the top on what I have done, I have Debian built from the boo-table USB from the website, then I compiled using, cd ~ sudo apt-get install git-core gitk git-gui sudo apt-get build-dep linuxcnc sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae sudo apt-get install libudev-dev sudo apt-get install iptables-persistent git clone git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev cd linuxcnc-dev git pull git checkout master cd src ./autogen.sh ./configure --with-realtime=uspace make sudo make setuid After that is when I tried to load the firmware to the card, then I tried to change the card IP address, both times I get the No 7I80 board found Then I found in the HM2_ETH manual the following entries, *Configure network with static address* Add these lines to the file /etc/network/interfaces to configure eth1 with a static address: auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.1 *Disable IPv6 on the dedicated interface* By default, Linux may transmit IPv6 packets on all interfaces, even if they are not explicitly configured with global IPv6 addresses. In /etc/sysctl.conf, disable ipv6 on eth1 by adding this line: net.ipv6.conf.eth1.disable_ipv6=1 *Note:*Simply setting ’ipv6’ to ’ignore’ in the GUI network tools does not eliminate the link-local ipv6 address. Use the sysctl.conf method even if you otherwise use the GUI to configure the dedicated interface. *Configure iptables for exclusive access* Install the package iptables-persistent and put this in the file /etc/iptables/rules.v4 (remove leading whitespace from every line): *filter :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :hm2-eth-rules-output - [0:0] -A OUTPUT -j hm2-eth-rules-output COMMIT Of which I did all of the above, and still I get the No 7I80 board found after trying to communicate with the board. I am using the following MB, http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A88X-ITX+/?cat=Specifications only because we have had very good luck with the ASrock boards, and this offered on-board WiFi, to get around the problem of not having an ethernet port to connect to our network, when using the 7i80. Could the on-board WiFi be causing my communication problem? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
On 7 April 2015 at 17:07, Karl Jacobs karl.jac...@gmx.de wrote: acre-foot, which is one of the weirdest measure for volume I ever came across :-) I like the megaparsec-barn. As an aside (and then I will stop because this thread is so far off-topic that I can't even see the topic): Fuel economy is measured in units of area (volume/distance). If you convert miles per gallon to an area you come up with something about as thick as a hair. Now imagine a hair of fuel feeding into your engine as you drive along. Then look at all the other cars. And think how many roads there are. Suddenly that's a collossal amount of fuel, easily visualised. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
Then you must be the guy who can translate Gene Heskett's three fingers in a jelly glass of Jack, Black neat into acre-foot, which is one of the weirdest measure for volume I ever came across :-) Karl Am 07.04.2015 um 17:40 schrieb dave: I try to keep the world right-side-up by a quick reality check: to a decent approximation 40 thou and 1 mm are equivalent. I worked in metric all my life ... weight, volume, etc but not distance. Since most of what I do now is related to pre-1920 guns I reverse engineer in imperial. I can think in mm but it takes a bit of effort. Dave On 04/07/2015 04:22 AM, John Alexander Stewart wrote: Karl - Aaargh! And to think I used to work in imperial measurements only. Living around the world, now back in imperial land you'd think that I'd still be able to work in thous but looks like I can't! Thanks for the correction - John. -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup)
Also look at this thread http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/9-installing-linuxcnc/28975-debian-uspace-and-7i80 -- Original Message -- From: Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com To: Emc Users emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: 2015-04-07 17:30:05 Subject: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup) Hey Guys, I will start from the top on what I have done, I have Debian built from the boo-table USB from the website, then I compiled using, cd ~ sudo apt-get install git-core gitk git-gui sudo apt-get build-dep linuxcnc sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae sudo apt-get install libudev-dev sudo apt-get install iptables-persistent git clone git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev cd linuxcnc-dev git pull git checkout master cd src ./autogen.sh ./configure --with-realtime=uspace make sudo make setuid After that is when I tried to load the firmware to the card, then I tried to change the card IP address, both times I get the No 7I80 board found Then I found in the HM2_ETH manual the following entries, *Configure network with static address* Add these lines to the file /etc/network/interfaces to configure eth1 with a static address: auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.1 *Disable IPv6 on the dedicated interface* By default, Linux may transmit IPv6 packets on all interfaces, even if they are not explicitly configured with global IPv6 addresses. In /etc/sysctl.conf, disable ipv6 on eth1 by adding this line: net.ipv6.conf.eth1.disable_ipv6=1 *Note:*Simply setting ’ipv6’ to ’ignore’ in the GUI network tools does not eliminate the link-local ipv6 address. Use the sysctl.conf method even if you otherwise use the GUI to configure the dedicated interface. *Configure iptables for exclusive access* Install the package iptables-persistent and put this in the file /etc/iptables/rules.v4 (remove leading whitespace from every line): *filter :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :hm2-eth-rules-output - [0:0] -A OUTPUT -j hm2-eth-rules-output COMMIT Of which I did all of the above, and still I get the No 7I80 board found after trying to communicate with the board. I am using the following MB, http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A88X-ITX+/?cat=Specifications only because we have had very good luck with the ASrock boards, and this offered on-board WiFi, to get around the problem of not having an ethernet port to connect to our network, when using the 7i80. Could the on-board WiFi be causing my communication problem? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
On Tuesday 07 April 2015 11:50:46 andy pugh wrote: On 7 April 2015 at 16:40, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: I worked in metric all my life ... weight, volume, etc but not distance. This last week I have been doing some building work at my parents house. For reasons that I am not clear on, I did all the plasterboard (drywall) work in metric and the wood work in imperial. When machining I guess in imperial and measure in metric. A useful dodge for machining on a manual lathe in the wrong units: Set a digital micrometer (or caliper) to the exact size you want. Zero it, then switch to the lathe units. The micrometer now reads how many native-units of the machine you are from your required (non-native) size. Oh Heck, all this time I thought I'd come up with a unique method. You blew my cover Andy. ;-) Yeah, its handier than sliced bread. :) Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup)
On Tue, 7 Apr 2015, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 16:24:38 + From: Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup) Rick You need two Ethernet connections to get going. Secondly, check your firmware version of the 7i80. This is not quite true, a single interface will work but is more trouble to setup. Its much more convienient to have a normal internet connection so 2 lan connections is definately better. This can be dual Ethernet connections or a Ethernet (for the 7I80) and wireless lan for general internet access (thats the setup I have on my desktop and laptop that both work with hm2_eth) Peter Wallace -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup)
Rick You need two Ethernet connections to get going. Secondly, check your firmware version of the 7i80. Also download the latest Mesaflash software form here http://www.github.com/micges/mesaflash. The version on the Mesanet website is outdated and does not talk to the 7i80 properly. You are having the same problems that I had. It went away with the firmware update and fitting a second Ethernet connection. I got a cheap USB to Ethernet adapter. -- Original Message -- From: Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com To: Emc Users emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: 2015-04-07 17:30:05 Subject: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup) Hey Guys, I will start from the top on what I have done, I have Debian built from the boo-table USB from the website, then I compiled using, cd ~ sudo apt-get install git-core gitk git-gui sudo apt-get build-dep linuxcnc sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae sudo apt-get install libudev-dev sudo apt-get install iptables-persistent git clone git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev cd linuxcnc-dev git pull git checkout master cd src ./autogen.sh ./configure --with-realtime=uspace make sudo make setuid After that is when I tried to load the firmware to the card, then I tried to change the card IP address, both times I get the No 7I80 board found Then I found in the HM2_ETH manual the following entries, *Configure network with static address* Add these lines to the file /etc/network/interfaces to configure eth1 with a static address: auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.1 *Disable IPv6 on the dedicated interface* By default, Linux may transmit IPv6 packets on all interfaces, even if they are not explicitly configured with global IPv6 addresses. In /etc/sysctl.conf, disable ipv6 on eth1 by adding this line: net.ipv6.conf.eth1.disable_ipv6=1 *Note:*Simply setting ’ipv6’ to ’ignore’ in the GUI network tools does not eliminate the link-local ipv6 address. Use the sysctl.conf method even if you otherwise use the GUI to configure the dedicated interface. *Configure iptables for exclusive access* Install the package iptables-persistent and put this in the file /etc/iptables/rules.v4 (remove leading whitespace from every line): *filter :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :hm2-eth-rules-output - [0:0] -A OUTPUT -j hm2-eth-rules-output COMMIT Of which I did all of the above, and still I get the No 7I80 board found after trying to communicate with the board. I am using the following MB, http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A88X-ITX+/?cat=Specifications only because we have had very good luck with the ASrock boards, and this offered on-board WiFi, to get around the problem of not having an ethernet port to connect to our network, when using the 7i80. Could the on-board WiFi be causing my communication problem? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
On Tuesday 07 April 2015 12:07:52 Karl Jacobs wrote: Then you must be the guy who can translate Gene Heskett's three fingers in a jelly glass of Jack, Black neat into acre-foot, which is one of the weirdest measure for volume I ever came across :-) Karl My calculator doesn't have enough zeros between the decimal point, and the value on the right without going into the -EE mode. While I suppose it could be done, of what usefulness is such a convesion? Am 07.04.2015 um 17:40 schrieb dave: I try to keep the world right-side-up by a quick reality check: to a decent approximation 40 thou and 1 mm are equivalent. I worked in metric all my life ... weight, volume, etc but not distance. Since most of what I do now is related to pre-1920 guns I reverse engineer in imperial. I can think in mm but it takes a bit of effort. Dave On 04/07/2015 04:22 AM, John Alexander Stewart wrote: Karl - Aaargh! And to think I used to work in imperial measurements only. Living around the world, now back in imperial land you'd think that I'd still be able to work in thous but looks like I can't! Thanks for the correction - John. --- --- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA _SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_ SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Karl Jacobs karl.jac...@gmx.de wrote: Then you must be the guy who can translate Gene Heskett's three fingers in a jelly glass of Jack, Black neat into acre-foot, which is one of the weirdest measure for volume I ever came across :-) Karl I usually pour two fingers worth of single malt into my whisky glass. My distance between my pinky and forefinger... ;-) Mark -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup)
On Tue, 7 Apr 2015, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 16:24:38 + From: Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup) Rick You need two Ethernet connections to get going. Secondly, check your firmware version of the 7i80. Also download the latest Mesaflash software form here http://www.github.com/micges/mesaflash. The version on the Mesanet website is outdated and does not talk to the 7i80 properly. You are having the same problems that I had. It went away with the firmware update and fitting a second Ethernet connection. I got a cheap USB to Ethernet adapter. There is no need for a firmware update in your case Marius had very old = almost 2 years old firmware. The reason its a bit tricky to set up an independent Ethernet interface for the 7I80 is that you must make sure that 7i80 traffic is routed to that interface (and not sent out the generic internet path) To debug this further, can you 1. Indicate what the 7I80 W1 and W2 settings are (note that if you change jumper settings you must power cycle the 7I80 for those settings to take effect) 2. Post the results of /sbin/ifconfig -a to the mailing list so we can see your network interface settings -- Original Message -- From: Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com To: Emc Users emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: 2015-04-07 17:30:05 Subject: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup) Hey Guys, I will start from the top on what I have done, I have Debian built from the boo-table USB from the website, then I compiled using, cd ~ sudo apt-get install git-core gitk git-gui sudo apt-get build-dep linuxcnc sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae sudo apt-get install libudev-dev sudo apt-get install iptables-persistent git clone git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev cd linuxcnc-dev git pull git checkout master cd src ./autogen.sh ./configure --with-realtime=uspace make sudo make setuid After that is when I tried to load the firmware to the card, then I tried to change the card IP address, both times I get the No 7I80 board found Then I found in the HM2_ETH manual the following entries, *Configure network with static address* Add these lines to the file /etc/network/interfaces to configure eth1 with a static address: auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.1 *Disable IPv6 on the dedicated interface* By default, Linux may transmit IPv6 packets on all interfaces, even if they are not explicitly configured with global IPv6 addresses. In /etc/sysctl.conf, disable ipv6 on eth1 by adding this line: net.ipv6.conf.eth1.disable_ipv6=1 *Note:*Simply setting ??ipv6?? to ??ignore?? in the GUI network tools does not eliminate the link-local ipv6 address. Use the sysctl.conf method even if you otherwise use the GUI to configure the dedicated interface. *Configure iptables for exclusive access* Install the package iptables-persistent and put this in the file /etc/iptables/rules.v4 (remove leading whitespace from every line): *filter :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :hm2-eth-rules-output - [0:0] -A OUTPUT -j hm2-eth-rules-output COMMIT Of which I did all of the above, and still I get the No 7I80 board found after trying to communicate with the board. I am using the following MB, http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A88X-ITX+/?cat=Specifications only because we have had very good luck with the ASrock boards, and this offered on-board WiFi, to get around the problem of not having an ethernet port to connect to our network, when using the 7i80. Could the on-board WiFi be causing my communication problem? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
What is this, a new take on measure twice - cut once. More like measure once... aw that doesn't look like enough -Original Message- From: Mark Wendt [mailto:wendt.m...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 12:19 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers? On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Karl Jacobs karl.jac...@gmx.de wrote: Then you must be the guy who can translate Gene Heskett's three fingers in a jelly glass of Jack, Black neat into acre-foot, which is one of the weirdest measure for volume I ever came across :-) Karl I usually pour two fingers worth of single malt into my whisky glass. My distance between my pinky and forefinger... ;-) Mark -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtua l- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
I try to keep the world right-side-up by a quick reality check: to a decent approximation 40 thou and 1 mm are equivalent. I worked in metric all my life ... weight, volume, etc but not distance. Since most of what I do now is related to pre-1920 guns I reverse engineer in imperial. I can think in mm but it takes a bit of effort. Dave On 04/07/2015 04:22 AM, John Alexander Stewart wrote: Karl - Aaargh! And to think I used to work in imperial measurements only. Living around the world, now back in imperial land you'd think that I'd still be able to work in thous but looks like I can't! Thanks for the correction - John. -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
On 7 April 2015 at 16:40, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: I worked in metric all my life ... weight, volume, etc but not distance. This last week I have been doing some building work at my parents house. For reasons that I am not clear on, I did all the plasterboard (drywall) work in metric and the wood work in imperial. When machining I guess in imperial and measure in metric. A useful dodge for machining on a manual lathe in the wrong units: Set a digital micrometer (or caliper) to the exact size you want. Zero it, then switch to the lathe units. The micrometer now reads how many native-units of the machine you are from your required (non-native) size. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
On Tuesday 07 April 2015 12:18:41 Mark Wendt wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Karl Jacobs karl.jac...@gmx.de wrote: Then you must be the guy who can translate Gene Heskett's three fingers in a jelly glass of Jack, Black neat into acre-foot, which is one of the weirdest measure for volume I ever came across :-) Karl I usually pour two fingers worth of single malt into my whisky glass. My distance between my pinky and forefinger... ;-) Mark Chuckle, and with the width of my hand, Mark, thats a full blown bender with a 2 day hangover. :( Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
I can't believe that I'm replying to my own thread, with an off-topic post. Look on youtube for the westjet metric time video - priceless. (Canadians are in theory metric, and I most certainly am, but almost all materials are in inch, based on our proximity to the USA. The WestJet April 1 metric time video is a great parody of our issues with metric) John. -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup)
Full instructions are in the readme on the home page of the project -- Original Message -- From: r...@superiorroll.com To: Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za; Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: 2015-04-07 18:56:52 Subject: RE: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup) This may sound crazy, but what are the install steps once I download the .zip file from the webpage? I have never had good luck with doing things this way. Rick Original Message Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup) From: Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za Date: Tue, April 07, 2015 12:24 pm To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Rick You need two Ethernet connections to get going. Secondly, check your firmware version of the 7i80. Also download the latest Mesaflash software form here http://www.github.com/micges/mesaflash. The version on the Mesanet website is outdated and does not talk to the 7i80 properly. You are having the same problems that I had. It went away with the firmware update and fitting a second Ethernet connection. I got a cheap USB to Ethernet adapter. -- Original Message -- From: Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com To: Emc Users emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: 2015-04-07 17:30:05 Subject: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup) Hey Guys, I will start from the top on what I have done, I have Debian built from the boo-table USB from the website, then I compiled using, cd ~ sudo apt-get install git-core gitk git-gui sudo apt-get build-dep linuxcnc sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae sudo apt-get install libudev-dev sudo apt-get install iptables-persistent git clone git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev cd linuxcnc-dev git pull git checkout master cd src ./autogen.sh ./configure --with-realtime=uspace make sudo make setuid After that is when I tried to load the firmware to the card, then I tried to change the card IP address, both times I get the No 7I80 board found Then I found in the HM2_ETH manual the following entries, *Configure network with static address* Add these lines to the file /etc/network/interfaces to configure eth1 with a static address: auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.1 *Disable IPv6 on the dedicated interface* By default, Linux may transmit IPv6 packets on all interfaces, even if they are not explicitly configured with global IPv6 addresses. In /etc/sysctl.conf, disable ipv6 on eth1 by adding this line: net.ipv6.conf.eth1.disable_ipv6=1 *Note:*Simply setting ’ipv6’ to ’ignore’ in the GUI network tools does not eliminate the link-local ipv6 address. Use the sysctl.conf method even if you otherwise use the GUI to configure the dedicated interface. *Configure iptables for exclusive access* Install the package iptables-persistent and put this in the file /etc/iptables/rules.v4 (remove leading whitespace from every line): *filter :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :hm2-eth-rules-output - [0:0] -A OUTPUT -j hm2-eth-rules-output COMMIT Of which I did all of the above, and still I get the No 7I80 board found after trying to communicate with the board. I am using the following MB, http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A88X-ITX+/?cat=Specifications only because we have had very good luck with the ASrock boards, and this offered on-board WiFi, to get around the problem of not having an ethernet port to connect to our network, when using the 7i80. Could the on-board WiFi be causing my communication problem? -- Thanks Rick Lair Superior Roll Turning LLC 399 East Center Street Petersburg MI, 49270 PH: 734-279-1831 FAX: 734-279-1166 www.superiorroll.com -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i80 Setup ( Was PNCConf setup)
Rick You need two Ethernet connections to get going. Secondly, check your firmware version of the 7i80. This is not quite true, a single interface will work but is more trouble to setup. I agree Peter, I meant to get going with first off. After that you can dump the second connection. Its much more convienient to have a normal internet connection so 2 lan connections is definately better. This can be dual Ethernet connections or a Ethernet (for the 7I80) and wireless lan for general internet access (thats the setup I have on my desktop and laptop that both work with hm2_eth) Peter Wallace -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Newbie Question: From where I should start?
Dear All, I just Installed built in LinuxCNC integrated with debian wheezy under my Dell Inspiron 640M laptop and I have several unused servomotor to start with. My question: 1. How do I setup testing my servos using LinuxCNC just to ensure it works properly before I build my simple 2 axis CNC experiment? 2. Its written LinuxCNC can't work under laptop but works under raspbery pi, why? 3. How can I find CNC routers equipments? Thanks Riza -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie Question: From where I should start?
Hi Riza! On 07.04.2015 22:11, Abdul Rahman Riza wrote: Dear All, I just Installed built in LinuxCNC integrated with debian wheezy under my Dell Inspiron 640M laptop and I have several unused servomotor to start with. My question: 1. How do I setup testing my servos using LinuxCNC just to ensure it works properly before I build my simple 2 axis CNC experiment? That mainly depends on the drivers for your servos. The motors are one thing, but you will need some kind of controller for them. There are countless ways to do it, some need a simple analog voltage as speed or torque setpoint with the control loop being closed by the computer, some take a stream of pulses (usually stepdir, altough I consider this the worst interface variant) and control position themselves. Even more integrated ones may have a digital interface like Ethernet or RS485 or something. The latter may give best performance when it comes to very dynamic systems, but they are usually also the most complicated ones to get up and running. 2. Its written LinuxCNC can't work under laptop but works under raspbery pi, why? I don't think it's impossible on a Laptop, but because of all the power management stuff usually found in their hardware and BIOS, it may be very hard to obtain good realtime performance. This is especially true if you need to generate reasonably fast signals, like for a stepdir pulse train (needs deterministic latency in the range of a few microseconds for decent performance). If you have a digital controller which mainly only needs position commands, it should work also with a Laptop. But always remember that most notebooks are not really made for an industrial environment. 3. How can I find CNC routers equipments? Others can certainly comment much better on this subject. But it would probably be good to know where you are located approximately to give regional advice. Cheers, Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie Question: From where I should start?
On 7 April 2015 at 21:11, Abdul Rahman Riza ar.r...@live.com wrote: I have several unused servomotor to start with. What type of servo motor? Brushed or brushless? Do they have quadrature encoders, resolvers, or something else (such as serial absolute encoders)? 1. How do I setup testing my servos using LinuxCNC just to ensure it works properly before I build my simple 2 axis CNC experiment? That depends on what type of motors you have, and what sort of drives (if any) you have. 2. Its written LinuxCNC can't work under laptop but works under raspbery pi, why? LinuxCNC doesn't seem to work particularly usefully on the Raspberry Pi. (Technically it doesn't run at all on it, but you can run the machinekit version of linuxCNC on it) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] kcalc in our distro's question
Greetings everybody; At some time in the past, I recall having a version of kcalc that had a menu of conversion utilities, such as inch/metric vice versa. But that seems to have disappeared in later versions. 10.04.4, its on the missing list. I've been over to snapshot.debian.org and picked up the first release about a decade old, but it seems to be missing there also. Was this metricinchmetric conversion something you guys added? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] kcalc in our distro's question
On Wednesday 08 April 2015 00:57:36 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings everybody; At some time in the past, I recall having a version of kcalc that had a menu of conversion utilities, such as inch/metric vice versa. But that seems to have disappeared in later versions. 10.04.4, its on the missing list. I've been over to snapshot.debian.org and picked up the first release about a decade old, but it seems to be missing there also. Was this metricinchmetric conversion something you guys added? Cheers, Gene Heskett Call in the St Bernards drink the barrel. I just found convertall which, while klunky to run because the menu's are different and huge, looks like it has all this metric/inch stuff covered to quite a few digits accuracy. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash - what are ok numbers?
On 4/7/2015 9:50 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 7 April 2015 at 16:40, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: I worked in metric all my life ... weight, volume, etc but not distance. This last week I have been doing some building work at my parents house. For reasons that I am not clear on, I did all the plasterboard (drywall) work in metric and the wood work in imperial. When machining I guess in imperial and measure in metric. I milled a 14 DP 14.5 PA 20 tooth gear using 5/64 end mills. (Several of them as they kept breaking.) Was slow going at 5K RPM and 2 inches per minute feed. Today I made a stepper motor mounting plate with metric measurements. I've no problem with using both. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Can LCNC operate over 2 interfaces at once?
Just thinking a bit (dangerous, I know). If LCNC can be made to run my PLM2000 over a serial port, could it integrate operation of a 4th axis via a second serial port or a parallel port? From what I've read online, only about 40 proLIGHT mills were made with the 4th axis option (a HASS with a 5C spindle, pretty large for the mill) and they are the only ones that can use a 4th axis with their native software. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
