Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Danny Miller
I don't know why you'd want to use that when the 7i92 is available. You're using a parallel port or serial, which has significant bandwidth and latency issues compared to ethernet. 7i92's only $30 more so I doubt cost is a big factor here. But, pretty sure it'll work with LinuxCNC. For 7i92,

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Chris Albertson
Does the 7I90HD work with Linux CNC? It looks like it could work It looks like it would be the board to use with an ARM Pi3. It connects with the host using SPI which is easy to use in the Pi3 7I90HD is the lowest cost Mega FPGA board at only $59 so you could have the computer and Mesa card both

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Danny Miller
> Sounds like its the -H I'd want too. More conserving of horizontal real > estate. And while I'm not going to add yet another potential loose > connection to the home switch setup, these bobs I have have such poor > terminals that I will cobble up a distribution point for all the stuff > that ne

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? -->NML

2016-10-23 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> Today I made first tests with pipe actually clamped in machine with > Machinekit running on beaglebone for plasma pipe cutter I planned to > develop. > > I was able to do UI with machinetalk interface to reach for linuxcnc > functionality that was needed. > Machinetalk allows you to move UI on P

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 October 2016 23:37:47 Danny Miller wrote: > On 10/23/2016 4:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> No biggie, on my CNC (not an SBC) I just added a wifi USB already. > >> > >> Mesa 7i92 are totally available from the mfg: > >> > >> http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&pro

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Danny Miller
On 10/23/2016 4:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> No biggie, on my CNC (not an SBC) I just added a wifi USB already. >> >> Mesa 7i92 are totally available from the mfg: >> >> http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=30 >> 2 > Not according to that web page 2 hours ago. Ou

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit?

2016-10-23 Thread Klemen Živkovič
Today I made first tests with pipe actually clamped in machine with Machinekit running on beaglebone for plasma pipe cutter I planned to develop. I was able to do UI with machinetalk interface to reach for linuxcnc functionality that was needed. Machinetalk allows you to move UI on PC instead havi

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Chris Albertson
They do sell the Rasberry Pi with a small touch screen. But the cost is higher. The way to do a graphical interface now on a new project is to assume the user already owns a phone of tablet and access that phone of tablet over WiFi As an example look how you'd set up a new IP security camera.

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 October 2016 16:25:46 Danny Miller wrote: > I use the Mesa 7i92. It is EXCELLENT. I prefer it over PCI solutions > just because I can keep the controller separate from the PC without a > lot of wiring. > So, all I have to is find one. > It works fine with my 1ms servo-thread. I ha

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Danny Miller
I use the Mesa 7i92. It is EXCELLENT. I prefer it over PCI solutions just because I can keep the controller separate from the PC without a lot of wiring. It works fine with my 1ms servo-thread. I have no reason to see if it goes further. It offloads all the pulse generation for the steppers

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit?

2016-10-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 October 2016 15:02:00 bari wrote: > Gene, > > IO is via FPGA over Ethernet since it has an integrated Ethernet > controller in the ARM SOC vs being Ethernet over USB like the Rpi and > many other ARM boards. Look at the Mesa 7i92. Currently Out of Stock at both N.A. dealers. So its a

[Emc-users] Re. AMD (64 bit) stable LinuxCNC Debian with CNC in Menu - download link (Sebastian Kuzminsky)

2016-10-23 Thread Jeffrey Reed
Dear Mr. Kuzminsky, Thank you for your perfect instructions. The problem was exactly as you suggested. I am running the jitter test as I compose this response. This was my first question to the forum and I am not sure I handled the Topic information correctly, in response to your reply. Please

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 October 2016 13:54:59 Dave Cole wrote: > Connect to a Mesa ethernet controller? > > Dave What about the latency? Can it match the 1 to 4 kilohertz servo-thread loop I have used? It's no help that the 7i92 is out of stock on both Peters and Johns web pages. How long to source one

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread bari
It has a GPU with HDMI. Ethernet is integrated for HM2_eth. HD can be over USB. The trick is building the rt kernel and llvmpipe. On 10/23/2016 08:40 AM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: > hiya, did you pick the 'one' as the best of the litter? -

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit?

2016-10-23 Thread bari
Gene, IO is via FPGA over Ethernet since it has an integrated Ethernet controller in the ARM SOC vs being Ethernet over USB like the Rpi and many other ARM boards. Look at the Mesa 7i92. HD can be over USB. On 10/22/2016 03:30 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 22 October 2016 14:44:47 bari

Re: [Emc-users] glue question?

2016-10-23 Thread Chris Albertson
Cured in the bottle? Some how it got opened before you got it. It cures with contact with water vapor in the air The other polyurethane that is very good is made by 3M and called "3M 5200" It is sold as a marine adhesive. One thing you can do with this 5200 is install a through hole sensor

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Dave Cole
Connect to a Mesa ethernet controller? Dave On 10/23/2016 1:46 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 23 October 2016 12:02:58 Roland Jollivet wrote: > >> By the way, while you guys are discussing SBC's, there's also the UP >> board too, which is x86. >> >> Here's a fun vi

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 October 2016 12:02:58 Roland Jollivet wrote: > By the way, while you guys are discussing SBC's, there's also the UP > board too, which is x86. > > Here's a fun video on it > too. Worth looking at... Nice board,

[Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Roland Jollivet
By the way, while you guys are discussing SBC's, there's also the UP board too, which is x86. Here's a fun video on it too. Worth looking at... On 23 October 2016 at 17:09, Dave Cole wrote: > Good to know.. I

Re: [Emc-users] AMD (64 bit) stable LinuxCNC Debian with CNC in Menu - download link

2016-10-23 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 10/23/2016 09:32 AM, Jeffrey Reed wrote: > Hi to All, > I am trying get an old 64 bit Compac Persario running with LinuxCNC. > I believe I have successfully completed every item in step 7.1 in this link > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcnc.html > http://linuxcnc.o

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Dave Cole
Good to know.. I missed that but didn't order any yet. Dave On 10/23/2016 4:43 AM, Andrew wrote: > Note that there are two versions of Orange Pi: PC (1GB RAM, more > connectors) for $15 and One (512MB and less connectors) for $10. > I think I'd prefer 1GB. I'd buy immediately but I already have a

[Emc-users] AMD (64 bit) stable LinuxCNC Debian with CNC in Menu - download link

2016-10-23 Thread Jeffrey Reed
Hi to All, I am trying get an old 64 bit Compac Persario running with LinuxCNC. I believe I have successfully completed every item in step 7.1 in this link http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcnc.html http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcnc.html

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Peter; On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: > when I started listening to this list, I was intrigued by the > possibilties of using ordinary "left-over" desk top PCs (which were > getting very cheap at the time) to do extraordinary work with ordinary > out-of-time machinery. This

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 October 2016 at 14:27, Peter Blodow wrote: > Now, LinuxCNC has gone commercial, > and using "dedicated", purpose-made computers doesn't appeal much to me What on earth do you mean by this? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit?

2016-10-23 Thread TJoseph Powderly
for orange pi et al 7" lcd with touch screen and some notes on what the plus2 lacks in this discussion: http://www.orangepi.org/orangepibbsen/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=192&extra=&page=3 tjtr33 tomp -- Check out the

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Andrew yes,many variants available, many bundles available check closely the sata specs, its not so hot, i liked the onboard wifi but see warnings about linux and the wifi chip so, maybe i try the 9$ 'one' and the 'plus2' at 49$ still cheap :-) damn i just looked into the drawer fulla dinosaur

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Peter Blodow
Gene, when I started listening to this list, I was intrigued by the possibilties of using ordinary "left-over" desk top PCs (which were getting very cheap at the time) to do extraordinary work with ordinary out-of-time machinery. This wonderful idea met my desires to make ends meet and, what's

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 October 2016 04:43:41 Andrew wrote: > Note that there are two versions of Orange Pi: PC (1GB RAM, more > connectors) for $15 and One (512MB and less connectors) for $10. > I think I'd prefer 1GB. I'd buy immediately but I already have a spare > Pi 2 ) > Anyways, incredible prices! > >

Re: [Emc-users] glue question?

2016-10-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 October 2016 04:09:10 Bruce Layne wrote: > Slightly Off Topic Tip: I recently discovered Reynold's Non-Stick > Foil. It has a chemically coated side that has a dull finish. I read > an excerpt from the patent and I wouldn't want any food touching that > stuff, And I've used at lea

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Andrew
Right, now I see that they have a lot of models. Top model Plus 2 even supports SATA, but it's $49 and needs a special $4 SATA cable. I wonder why they don't sell similar boards with small LCD touchscreens. There are 5" smartphones for $50, now I would like it without SIM and battery but with HDMI

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Looks like 4 or 5 models on the website. If one can handle a touchscreen, and can somehow be interfaced to the thermostats etc. in a cooktop and oven, I'd be interested in modifying and old GE P7 range to replace the mechanical clock/timer on the front with an LCD. I'd also replace the burner co

Re: [Emc-users] glue question?

2016-10-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 October 2016 at 08:48, Danny Miller wrote: > Glues and paints just > don't stick to anything in this category and there's no easy answers > except "just don't use glue". I looked into this one time when making super-low force load cells for measuring tension in skin cultures. I wanted to bo

Re: [Emc-users] glue question?

2016-10-23 Thread Gregg Eshelman
A nifty feature of hot glue is 91% isopropyl alcohol will nearly instantly release its bond. It'll even get it off fabric. Soak the fabric then pick and rub off the glue. 70% will also work but not as quickly. From: "albertson.ch...@gmail.com" To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

Re: [Emc-users] glue question?

2016-10-23 Thread Gregg Eshelman
A google for HDPE glue shows several options, at non-crazy prices. A few years ago I looked for glues for various slick 'poly' plastics and the options were few, hideously expensive and generally came with a suggestion to not put a lot of stress on the bond. From: Bruce Layne To: Enha

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Andrew
Note that there are two versions of Orange Pi: PC (1GB RAM, more connectors) for $15 and One (512MB and less connectors) for $10. I think I'd prefer 1GB. I'd buy immediately but I already have a spare Pi 2 ) Anyways, incredible prices! Andrew 2016-10-23 1:06 GMT+03:00 Dave Cole : > I went to the

Re: [Emc-users] glue question?

2016-10-23 Thread Bruce Layne
Slightly Off Topic Tip: I recently discovered Reynold's Non-Stick Foil. It has a chemically coated side that has a dull finish. I read an excerpt from the patent and I wouldn't want any food touching that stuff, but it's great for disposable nonstick applications in the shop. My initial tes

Re: [Emc-users] glue question?

2016-10-23 Thread Danny Miller
On 10/23/2016 2:30 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > I considered dropping the face to be joined on my big bench belt sander > for about long enough to make the surface good and "hairy", but haven't > actually tried that. About a second maybe as the melting point is > reached very quickly and I'd want it

Re: [Emc-users] glue question?

2016-10-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 October 2016 01:45:58 Danny Miller wrote: > You CANNOT expect any high-strength bond on HDPE that rivals the > strength of the material, not with any glue. Typically it is bolted. > I am reaching that conclusion, Danny. I still have enough of those mini-wood screws to do that. 8 of