[Emc-users] Speed issue with EMC

2008-02-09 Thread Rob Jansen
My machine is set to to amax. speed of 4800 mm/min (~ 190 inch/min) and an acceleration of 9600 mm/min. But somehow, during milling I reach only speeds of up to 600 mm/min when doing small steps in the program. The thing is controlled with an older PC I still had standing in a corner - don't

Re: [Emc-users] A axis following errors

2008-02-10 Thread Rob Jansen
Fred, coil winder ... then indeed you want these multiple revs/s I agree with Steve, this is a cool application. His remarks sound usefull. But then, should stepconf not prevent us to do this? I configured my system using stepconf and it will just not allow me to increase the speed above a

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-12 Thread Rob Jansen
Aram, measuring torque on an AC servos is definitely possible. It is not as simple as measuring current but this does give some feedback. I don't think that the current used by the servo drivers is a measure but you try Stan's setup that way. There are servo drivers with force-feedback but I

Re: [Emc-users] Updated web page

2008-02-17 Thread Rob Jansen
Gene, Just a dir listing, I haven't written a page yet. I think I started the other way around. I've got a page but no photo's yet - At the end of the day I never find (ehh.. take) time to make some photos but today will hopefully be different. The machine is working, spindle is attached

Re: [Emc-users] step type... which one?

2008-02-20 Thread Rob Jansen
Jim Coleman wrote: I've got 3 little steppers that i want to use, they're 5 wire and i believe bipolar? if anyone knows where to find datasheets for teac 14769070-30 motors from old 5 1/4 floppy drives, i'd sure like to get a copy. i know the motor is tiny, i'm only using it for a toy,

Re: [Emc-users] step type... which one?

2008-02-20 Thread Rob Jansen
Jim, with these motors im not looking for step direction, i want to use stepgen to switch the 4 coils, thats why I'll use a higher step mode, like 5 or 6. I was thinkin about just usin NPN transistors from the parport to switch the coils. if i end up killin the parport by not usin

Re: [Emc-users] step type... which one?

2008-02-25 Thread Rob Jansen
What I meant to say is that you do need motor drivers, the outputs of the parport will not let you draw any current (that is of use for stepper motors). You can draw 10, if you're lucky even 25, mA from the parport directly so to control the stepper motors you will need a driver. Why does

Re: [Emc-users] home-mad CNC machine project.

2008-02-29 Thread Rob Jansen
Sean, The stepper driver looks OK at a first glance but I did not have a detailed look at the schematics. It looks to be a full-step driver which is nice since full step drivers tend to have a higher torque than microstep ones. But I would stay away from the easy to build desktop thingy from

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper motor and driver selection

2008-03-05 Thread Rob Jansen
Aaron, The gantry weighs about 70Kg and I have 16mm lead screws with 4mm pitch. Could some one tell me what specs I need so i can look out for stuff on ebay UK. I have 6.4 Nm (~ 900 oz inch) motors, my gantry weighs about 80-90 Kg and 16mm lead screws with 5mm pitch. The motors are way

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper motor and driver selection

2008-03-07 Thread Rob Jansen
Aaron, The gantry weighs about 70Kg and I have 16mm lead screws with 4mm pitch. Could some one tell me what specs I need so i can look out for stuff on ebay UK. I have 6.4 Nm (~ 900 oz inch) motors, my gantry weighs about 80-90 Kg and 16mm lead screws with 5mm pitch. The motors are way

[Emc-users] Homing using 2 motors per axis

2008-03-11 Thread Rob Jansen
Gentlemen, My milling machine uses 2 ball screw spindles with separate motors (and separate microstep drivers) to move the Y-axis portal which is 1.2 meter wide. To do accurate homing, each axis should have its own homing switch and the motors should be controlled using different I/O signals.

Re: [Emc-users] Homing using 2 motors per axis

2008-03-15 Thread Rob Jansen
Rayh, the whole gauntry acts as a swivel :-} It's all made of aluminium sheet 15 mm thick, 30 cm wide and 70 cm height with two 80x80 beams of 122 cm long. If I remove one of the ball screws I can move that side a few centimeters without applying too much force. I thought of adding a timing

Re: [Emc-users] EMC list troubles, and thanks, Gene Heskett!

2008-03-19 Thread Rob Jansen
Gary, I also have problems with the mail servers (from sourceforge that is). For some reason, most of my mails I write through Thunderbird arrive with a normal delay but last Sunday I wrote an email (Re on How do I calculate leadscrew push/pull forces? but that mail only arrived 2 days later.

[Emc-users] newb question: coordinate spaces and setup

2008-05-10 Thread Rob Jansen
Robert, Being new to g-code and cnc I've been trying to learn the best way to think about the coordinate spaces and offsets etc (for a cnc mill). I'm thinking I should use a **fixture** plate with alignment pins etc to mount to the table. Some kind of pallet plate to hold the work (plugs

Re: [Emc-users] newb question: coordinate spaces and setup

2008-05-12 Thread Rob Jansen
Gary, I think this doesn't even have to be mounted. It could simply be a little device you place on the table whenever needed, though it wouldn't be quite as fast as a prox switch. I just found this while poking around the net:

Re: [Emc-users] newb question: coordinate spaces and setup

2008-05-13 Thread Rob Jansen
It makes me wish I had a nice granite surface plate, and height gauge. I used to wonder what people did with those, but lately I've been finding lot of uses for them. I've got a friend who makes carbon disc wheels for bicycles. He uses one to check if the rim is perfectly round and flat.

[Emc-users] .deb of CVS?

2008-05-15 Thread Rob Jansen
Matt, My purpose is to be able to have easy to install updates or hot fixes, in between released versions if required, without emc2-dev/CVS/run-in-place. Good question, up to now I just waited for a new LiveCD. I think the answer is on:

Re: [Emc-users] .deb of CVS?

2008-05-15 Thread Rob Jansen
Alex, On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 10:13 +0300, Alex Joni wrote: https://www.myvoice.nl/horde/imp/message.php?index=49388# Hi Rob, updates which you get automagically won't screw your install. We only provide automatic updates for the same release branch of emc2 (so if you have emc2.2.2 you'll get

Re: [Emc-users] segmentation fault

2008-05-15 Thread Rob Jansen
I'm building a little cnc router with EMC2 as the controller software running with Xylotek steppers and everything works fine but when i try to reboot or shutdown ubuntu it stops with a segmentation fault error. This only happens when i run EMC2, if i run any other program from ubuntu except

[Emc-users] How does EMC build bicycles / Re: Scale and Rotate

2008-05-18 Thread Rob Jansen
How does EMC2 build bicycles? John Easy, just write G-code to mill a mold, apply carbon cloth and epoxy resin in the mold, inser a tube (a bike's inner tube) and bolt the mold together. Then apply pressure to the inner tube and let the epoxy harden. This is how I make bikes. Until now the

Re: [Emc-users] Thread Milling

2008-05-19 Thread Rob Jansen
Is tapping obsolete? http://www.emuge.com/carbide_thread/ Nope, tapping is still useful, these tools need space (try making a 2 mm thread this way - the tool is larger). But this is really useful, there are different tools. Threading mills like the one shown in the picture give a fixed pitch

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder with 5 000 000 pulses/rev

2008-06-05 Thread Rob Jansen
Aram, i talk to company that manufacture encoder with 5 000 000 pulses per rev. the problem is that that encoder has MAXIMUM rpm less than 200 rpm!!! so that encoder can be speen faster than 200 rpm because frequences not enogh to keep so much pulses. if you want speen faster get lower

Re: [Emc-users] Wax

2008-06-14 Thread Rob Jansen
Kirk, I have some stuff called Spann-Folie in German. I bought this from Sartorius in Germany. I friend of me used it also to create round disks of a few milimeters thick on his lathe. The label on the packaging tells me it's called Mitee-Griphttp://www.miteebite.com/products/mitee_grip_e.html.

Re: [Emc-users] E-stop Surprise

2008-06-14 Thread Rob Jansen
I agree with Jon: You really HAVE to have a hardware E-stop! The business with the pointer focus on the GUI is pretty dangerous, and I run into it all the time. 'In the Beginning' I just used the E-Stop input pin from the HAL, but I was wondering if this is safe enough so I now added a

Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest

2008-06-16 Thread Rob Jansen
http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/festcam.shtml HUH! Bunch of pikers - where the heck are you? All I see are empty chairs! Jon Agree, it's only 2 at night and already everyone has gone of to bed ? :-) Think this is good though, you need to be fully awake when operating these powerful

[Emc-users] Touch off / G92 headaches

2008-06-23 Thread Rob Jansen
I know this is probably my own fault for not having limit and home switches (yet) But I keep getting headaches from the Axis behavior of the touch off function in Axis. When I move my zero position finder and then try to do a touch off with 4mm to get the home coordinate, suddenly the OK button

Re: [Emc-users] Following error joint 2

2008-08-08 Thread Rob Jansen
Andy, could it be that my z-axis is too slow for a certain movement? i think the errors happen on g0 commands after about 40mm of movement. if there is a time constraint, the software could trap into a timeout and answer with a following error - but, to be hounest, this sounds ridiculous

Re: [Emc-users] Control panel vs GUI interface

2008-09-13 Thread Rob Jansen
It has occurred to me that there is no reason that I couldn't use two keyboards - one actual and the second wired to push buttons. (Has anyone done this?) Sure, there are things for sale that will do this but I just took an old USB keyboard (one that had seen too much coolant ...) and wired

Re: [Emc-users] Homing

2008-11-05 Thread Rob Jansen
Jack Coats wrote: I heard that Mach3 has a facility to 'home' an axis that has multiple stepper motors on it, designed for gantries with two motors on the X axis, where each leg of the gantry has ahome switch. Ok, finally, the question. How can we do that with EMC2? A few hints how

Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off snip

2008-11-16 Thread Rob Jansen
Thank you Greg, but I have had some unrealistic expectations placed on me at work (my meat and potatoes job) recently which I stood up against (successfully) My MPJ just told me that I may get loads of time for my hobbies (they call it 'resturcturing' and 'making people redundant', I

[Emc-users] Subject and quoting please?

2008-11-25 Thread Rob Jansen
Guys, I am definitely not a moderator but ... I see lots of posts that have subjects not matching the content and complete quoted emails. Could we please try to get the subject of emails matching the content and quote only the necessary lines of the original email. Things are getting impossible

Re: [Emc-users] 2.2.7, no touch-off available after M00???

2008-12-02 Thread Rob Jansen
Hi, I'm not sure this is related to M00, I have a similar problem on my 2.2.2 system. At a sudden moment touch off won't work anymore. As soon as I enter a value, the OK button is grayed out. Rob On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:21 PM, rtwas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I upgraded to 2.2.7 and

[Emc-users] 4 to 5 axis milling SW Re: Testing

2008-12-11 Thread Rob Jansen
Risto, dxf2gcode will not get you 5 axis milling If you use Rhino 3D there is MadCAM, (link on the rhino3d.com website http://www.rhino3d.com/resources/display.asp?language=listing=460). The German Rhino agent FILOU has some more info stating that version 4.1 has 4 5 axis milling support. This

Re: [Emc-users] 4 to 5 axis milling SW Re: Testing

2008-12-12 Thread Rob Jansen
Dirk wrote: Yes, this sounds very simple. So, maybe I have to imagine parts as if they are trapped in a sphere and only the outside has to be removed. Something like Michelango did: he only had to remove the marble on the outside because the statue was already on the inside. Sorry, can't find

Re: [Emc-users] CNC 101

2009-02-04 Thread Rob Jansen
Raymond, as you will understand from the other positive mails it is definitely worth the effort. Almost any stepper driver/motor combination is possible. I am using an old Compaq PC, slower than 1 GHz and 512 (or 1 GB - I forgot) MB of memory. I am using stepper drivers with optical isolation

Re: [Emc-users] EMC and auto/manual mode

2009-02-27 Thread Rob Jansen
I also have to do manual tool changes and was thinking to do this with a simple subroutine in my programs. Combined with a tool-length probe which can be a simple industrial push button with stainless steel button (the ones I've seen are accurate within 0.02 mm) 1. move up and stop spindle

[Emc-users] using a 5i20 for stepper motor control

2009-03-24 Thread Rob Jansen
Hi, I have an EMC2 controlled CNC mill with stepper motors but I am not too happy about the parallel port being used as stepper signal generator. My current configuration is a standard one generated with the step configuration wizard but I am guessing the PC uses quite some time to calculate

Re: [Emc-users] using a 5i20 for stepper motor control

2009-03-25 Thread Rob Jansen
Sebastian, Alex, Eric, Jon, (did I forget anyone who responded, then I'm sorry) Thanks for all the tips. As Sebastian suggested I will definitely do a system analysis before spending money but spending 200 USD on a 10,000 EUR machine is not that high an investment. I will not opt for the 7i43

Re: [Emc-users] using a 5i20 for stepper motor control

2009-03-25 Thread Rob Jansen
Thanks, Peter C. Wallace wrote: We will have PCI express versions of Anything I/O cards later this year ... That said, I would not worry too much about PCI dissapearing, I expect Motheboards with PCI to be available for at least 5 more years That is what I would expect. But I hope my

Re: [Emc-users] using a 5i20 for stepper motor control

2009-03-27 Thread Rob Jansen
Roger, Eric, Personally, I think the best way to cut insanely small segments is not to generate them. Instead of doing a P0.1 on the machine side change your tolerance on the CAM side. I do a lot of contouring in using VisualMill and the size of the G-code varies in direct relationship to

[Emc-users] Soft/hard limits homing (was: Re: emc2.3.0beta2)

2009-03-29 Thread Rob Jansen
Steve Blackmore wrote: Softlimits? I don't use them. I have limit switches, I don't use them either, I think since the eighties I've hit them twice. They are simply there to stop the machine ramming the end of the ballscrews ;) I don't directly use machine coordinates either, they are

Re: [Emc-users] syncing two motors to one axis

2009-04-01 Thread Rob Jansen
Len, steppers makes this problem very easy and it has indeed been discussed before. Searching on the term two motors I was able to retrieve a number of my own posts about this. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user/8147/match=two+motors is an older post describing a

Re: [Emc-users] Bug in stepconf?

2009-04-02 Thread Rob Jansen
Peter, this is mainly to the EMC developers. I am not an EMC developer. I am a challenging user, just like most of us :-) Seriously: After all my efforts I am inclined to exclude all other causes of the misbehaviour than stepconf. Is it really true that nobody ever reported problems with

Re: [Emc-users] Users Locations

2009-04-03 Thread Rob Jansen
Great idea. Might be nice for regional gatherings. Time to point to http://www.frappr.com/emc2 again, there's a nice map of EMC2 users - but are there really only two users in the whole of the Netherlands? We're not that small a country !? Cheers, Rob On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Jim Combs

Re: [Emc-users] Users Locations

2009-04-03 Thread Rob Jansen
Alex, I think the webpage could be a better place than the wiki. If there are enough people out there who are ok with doing this, we can add a community-module to linuxcnc.org, so every registered user can set up a profile with pictures, links, personal information, etc. Let me know if

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Test Result Questions

2009-04-05 Thread Rob Jansen
Don, good thing you kept the .ini and .hal files - reminds me to make backups once again cause I think I changed the files since the last backup ... I copied my working config for the mill to 3 different machines (one active, one backup and one to play with at home) by comparing a setup

Re: [Emc-users] using a 5i20 for stepper motor control

2009-04-07 Thread Rob Jansen
Matt, I finally found some time to look at your files. Thanks, the files look great - well documented so this should get me going without any problems. I just ordered 2 5i20 boards so I have a spare or a second system to play with. This will also give me enough I/O to add all the extra I/O I

Re: [Emc-users] syncing two motors to one axis

2009-04-09 Thread Rob Jansen
Len, you give me too much credits. I don't know that much about the HAL and to be honest, I am just able to understand the HAL files that I got as samples. Did this all with a bit of standard logic gates since my PC does not have enough I/O to capture all the signals. But my 5i20 and 7i43 Mesa

Re: [Emc-users] Users Locations

2009-04-13 Thread Rob Jansen
I have to agree with Aaron, a job well done! I think we are the lucky guys. User density in England and the Netherlands is higher (per square mile) than in he US :-) There are 408 registered users on linuxcnc.org but still less than 60 users on the map so there is still some work to do - for the

Re: [Emc-users] What's coming in manufacturing

2009-04-13 Thread Rob Jansen
Hear hear, These little home shops don't have to pay employee healthcare nor pay corporate taxes. They can likely pay the lower capital gains taxes on what their robots, cnc mills and Fab machines build. Things are not that different on the other side of the world (the Netherlands).

[Emc-users] converting parport to 5i20 config - joint following error

2009-04-15 Thread Rob Jansen
I started converting my EMC2 mill from parport to the Mesa 5i20 hostmot2 stepper and got stuck with a problem. The parport configuration works fine but the hm2_stepper config is having problems. I keep getting joint xxx following errors. I checked the docs but cannot explain this: ferror,

Re: [Emc-users] converting parport to 5i20 config - joint following error

2009-04-15 Thread Rob Jansen
Sebastian, Another brave hm2 testing volunteer! Welcome! Yep, slow system, problems with parport and not enough I/O made me buy two 5i20 cards (and a 7i43) card. One 5i20 for the main system, one as a backup/second system at home and the 7i43 to play around with and try some FPGA

Re: [Emc-users] compile emc2 in Glade or eclipse

2009-04-16 Thread Rob Jansen
Duc, I have to agree with Jeff. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?action=browseid=Installing_EMC2revision=146 describes in good detail what to do to install EMC (from the Live CD), get the sources and the tools and compile everything. The EMC team did a real good job on this: I

[Emc-users] Hostmot2 - stepper signal invert

2009-04-17 Thread Rob Jansen
Hi, is it possible to invert the DIR signal of the stepgen output of the Mesa 5i20 board? On my old (parport) config I had the DIR signal inverted so I was looking for a similar option on the hostmot configuration. Otherwise I'd have to open the controller-box to change one of the phases of

Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 - stepper signal invert

2009-04-18 Thread Rob Jansen
Thanks, this works - I thought that only worked on standard output lines - not on special function pins. Sometimes I am thinking too complex... Meanwhile I also added spindle control with a PWM output. I think the docs are a bit outdated (or I just found the wrong ones).Some docs tell me the to

Re: [Emc-users] Incorporation Donation [Was: Re: What's coming in manufacturing]

2009-04-19 Thread Rob Jansen
I would not mind saying thank you to the developers or the volunteers at the shows by buying them a beer, lunch or maybe even some hardware to play with. We do have nice beers in the Netherlands ;-) Cheers, Rob On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: After

Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 - stepper signal invert

2009-04-19 Thread Rob Jansen
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 3:33 PM, John Thornton jet1...@semo.net wrote: I've added a bit to the manual on this after reading this... http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/devel/html//drivers_hostmot2.html Heck it even makes sense to me now :) I think... It even makes sense to me :-) Most of this

[Emc-users] Help configuring hostmot2 stepper system

2009-04-22 Thread Rob Jansen
Hi, the past week(s) I have been working on getting my hostmot2 system running with the Mesa 5i20 card and stepper motors. Up to a certain point this is a success. But there still is this problem with joint following errors - whatever I try I keep having joint following errors. I tried

[Emc-users] Help configuring hostmot2 stepper system

2009-04-22 Thread Rob Jansen
forgot a link to my configs: http://www.myvoice.nl/freesmachine/configs/ The elan config is the old parport config, hm2-stepper the hostmot2 stepper motor config. Rob -- Stay on top of everything new and different,

Re: [Emc-users] Help configuring hostmot2 stepper system

2009-04-22 Thread Rob Jansen
Alex Joni wrote: You didn't say what emc2 version you're using. hm2-stepper has been reworked for 2.3.0, so you might have better success with that. Yes, I am using 2.3.0. The version I compiled from CVS end of last week so the one without the humming and dithering in the motors. * you

Re: [Emc-users] Help configuring hostmot2 stepper system

2009-04-22 Thread Rob Jansen
Sebastian, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Some other thoughts on the hm2-stepper config you linked in an earlier email: You dont need a BASE_PERIOD for hostmot2 - the base thread is in the FPGA. Your SERVO and TRAJ periods are both 100,000 ns, which is pretty aggressive, 1,000,000 ns is more

Re: [Emc-users] Help configuring hostmot2 stepper system

2009-04-23 Thread Rob Jansen
Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Matt Shaver wrote: ... Are you running with the hm2 stepgen's maxvel and maxaccel 5% higher than the TP's [AXIS_?]MAX*, and still getting following errors? I changed the hm2 stepgen and maxvel to values that are a bit higher than the AXIS_ values - this

Re: [Emc-users] Help configuring hostmot2 stepper system

2009-04-23 Thread Rob Jansen
Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: I'm glad that worked :-) I'm hoping that i'll get stepgen maxaccel=0 working soonish, then we'll make that the default and the user will just set [AXIS] stuff correctly and things'll work. Just let me know when it's done. I'd be happy to cvs the new sources and

Re: [Emc-users] management of limit switches

2009-04-23 Thread Rob Jansen
Robert, as also written by others, the 'override limits' button on the (Axis) user interface allow you to back of from the limits. But in general, the limit switches should be placed at such a location that these are never hit during normal operation. On my machine the travel of the Y axis

Re: [Emc-users] Writeup on the CNC4PC MPG6 C22 pendant

2009-04-28 Thread Rob Jansen
Jon, same question as Gene. Pix would be nice. I was thinking of buying one from stappenmotor.nl, they are charging 41 EUR ex. VAT for a 60mm encoder. I did not even think about one-handed operation, sound very usefull though. With a custom made (3D printed) housing from shapeways this will

Re: [Emc-users] Writeup on the CNC4PC MPG6 C22 pendant

2009-04-29 Thread Rob Jansen
Rainer Schmidt wrote: I just bought one from ebay for $15. A Logitech RumblePad... Probably it gives force feedback when you run the bit into a fixture... lol Rainer But probably the fixture will be dented- much like the car is dented when you bang your head on the hood afterwards;-)

[Emc-users] Touch off / workpiece home coordinate

2009-04-29 Thread Rob Jansen
I'm lost. I thought that the touch-off feature was for setting the workpiece home position. So I search for the side of my workpiece with one of these LED feelers (kantentaster in Dutch, don't know the English term) and perform a touch-off with 5mm. I thought this should set my coordinate (X or

Re: [Emc-users] Touch off / workpiece home coordinate

2009-05-01 Thread Rob Jansen
Tom, The G53 command results in the following error: interp_error: Can use only G5.2 or G5.3 after G5.2 Is this a bug? - There is no G5.2 or G5.3, only a G53 and the manual does not mention any dependencies on G53. I also read the information on G92 - it sets global offsets and affects all

Re: [Emc-users] Touch off / workpiece home coordinate

2009-05-01 Thread Rob Jansen
Chris, I downloaded a version from cvs about two weeks ago - in the speed of EMC development this indeed is 'a while back' :-) Based on your mail I did a cvs update / compile and now G53 works. Regards, Rob Chris Radek wrote: On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 09:39:07AM +0200, Rob Jansen wrote

Re: [Emc-users] unshielded cable

2009-05-03 Thread Rob Jansen
Doug, I've seen the responses from other stating it's kind of OK as long as you watch out. Well, I can tell you it's not OK. Use the cable for anything but steppers, servos, encoders, limit or home switches etc. I have seen problems even when the spindle's VFD signals and stepper cables were

Re: [Emc-users] unshielded cable

2009-05-03 Thread Rob Jansen
Gene, Can you describe this Olflex cable please? http://www.olflex.com.mx/clientes/estructura/img/administrador/archivos/olflex_classic_110_cy.pdf I use the 110 CY cable, the standard 110 cables has no shielding. The 21 AWG cable is perfect for signals, I use the 18 AWG for the stepper

[Emc-users] Probe design - was Re: unshielded cable

2009-05-05 Thread Rob Jansen
Gene Heskett wrote: They are now included at http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/emc as 'probe-*.jpg' These opto's I used have about a .150 gap. It holds the thing together when assembled. I don't recall now if they have schmidt outputs or not. Nice probe. I made one using the Renishaw

Re: [Emc-users] I Need help optimizing the step generation

2009-05-07 Thread Rob Jansen
Michael, the documentation is of course the first thing where to look for the information you need. But having been there myself I know it can be quite overwhelming ... I've been reading in parts of the documentation and troubleshooting pages that some of these issues could be due to step

Re: [Emc-users] Cheap MPG

2009-05-08 Thread Rob Jansen
Well, Kirk did it again! I think MPG's are too expensive, so I am trying to see if I could make one. What I have so far is at the top of the page here: http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/ I found this MPG

Re: [Emc-users] I Need help optimizing the step generation

2009-05-08 Thread Rob Jansen
Michael Jones wrote: I'm not SURE about the Z axis variations, but things seem to be more stable - I'm doing an engraving right now, so the jury's still out, but it looks good. When setting up my machine I created a small G-code program to move the axis up and down at different speeds

[Emc-users] Mounting PC boards for drilling/milling - was Re: cable shielding??

2009-05-14 Thread Rob Jansen
Gene, Gary, I use double sided tape a lot for milling EPS/XPS foam and sometimes for PCB milling. There is a problem with the tape wrapping around the mill when you mill through the tape, not that much of a problem for PCB material with a spade mill but it could be a problem with one of those

[Emc-users] EMC slowing down after large program

2009-05-23 Thread Rob Jansen
Hi all, I am not sure if it is just me or my Linux machine but I have a problem that looks like memory leaks or something like this. After running a very large G-code program (like 655,000 lines of code, 14 MB filesize) EMC becomes real slow. A clear live plot (ctrl-K) does not help but after

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-26 Thread Rob Jansen
The same procedure as Belli Button suggest is indeed standard. Two (half height) gears mounted on top of each other and interlocking the the driving gear to remove the play on the gearing. Easy for standard gears or trapezoid and ball screw axis (two nuts on one axis) but a bit more complex for

Re: [Emc-users] EMC slowing down after large program

2009-06-04 Thread Rob Jansen
Rainer, I am more talking in the range of 650.000 lines.so about 40 times as big as the program you tested. l am milling Large molds with high precision resulting in these very large programs. Rob Rainer Schmidt wrote: 15K lines with 6 subsequent runs without exit or reboot and no

Re: [Emc-users] EMC slowing down after large program

2009-06-04 Thread Rob Jansen
Rainer, I am more talking in the range of 650.000 lines.so about 40 times as big as the program you tested. l am milling Large molds with high precision resulting in these very large programs. Rob Rainer Schmidt wrote: 15K lines with 6 subsequent runs without exit or reboot and no

Re: [Emc-users] Purchase of 7i43 and 7i33

2009-06-10 Thread Rob Jansen
You're kidding me right??? I called them today to figure out what cards do what and which is supported by EMC. We are looking for more than one... cough cough... That call was a pretty bad experience and after reading the above they're off the short list. No further information required. If

Re: [Emc-users] Using MDI during a Program?

2009-06-20 Thread Rob Jansen
Hubert, there is also the option of integrating a tool length sensor. With the first tool set the home position of the Z-axis and use the tool length sensor to record a tool-sensor offset. After changing the tool, go back to the tool length sensor and determine the tool length, minus the offset

Re: [Emc-users] Using MDI during a Program?

2009-06-20 Thread Rob Jansen
Andy Pugh wrote: 2009/6/20 Rob Jansen r...@myvoice.nl: how would EMC know how to move back to the last programmed position/ I don't think it needs to, it will either do the next G0 (which is no problem at all) or do a G1 which might get a bit boring. You do need to do something

[Emc-users] (Dutch) EMC for Dummies fest

2009-06-26 Thread Rob Jansen
Some time ago there were a few mails about an EMC Fest in Europe. Just this week another Dutch EMC user (Dirk) sent me an email to trigger me about the silence about the European EMC Fest. We both feel the need to do something - even if it is just the two of us :-} But I do not have that much

Re: [Emc-users] Error with new program.

2009-06-28 Thread Rob Jansen
Aram, i use text edditor. and file has extention .txt in file everything cleare and problem. i save file. when load into EMC2 lines 6 and 7 joint to line 5 in a terminal window type: od -c filename.txt (without the ). Copy/paste the output to this list, then I'll be able to see if there are

Re: [Emc-users] Bad character'\37777777757' used

2009-06-29 Thread Rob Jansen
to avoid a problem you need to know what is causing it. If the problem is on the first line, then use head as a filter to only show the first 20 lines of the output. Just type: od -a test.txt | head I am not sure what your linux/unix background knowledge is but in this line: 1. od -a

[Emc-users] Hostory of EMC / supported G-codes

2009-07-01 Thread Rob Jansen
I just got an email concerning the use of the G64 P... G-code I introduced in the output of the postprocessor in DeskProto. I found this to improve speed a lot and reported this to DeskProto about a year ago - they were happy to add this in their default post processor configuration. Apparently

Re: [Emc-users] Hostory of EMC / supported G-codes

2009-07-01 Thread Rob Jansen
Chris Radek wrote: would be good to have a historical overview of all the changes since Thanks Chris, this may not be the comprehensive feature list I was looking for (I know the chance of having such a list is small) but it does allow me to track some of EMC's history. Something that is nice

Re: [Emc-users] OpenGL on EMC2? + 7i43

2009-07-08 Thread Rob Jansen
Richard, quoting from one of your earlier mails: Thanks to everyone who tryed to help, thanks to everyone behind such a great project. Dito! I had a bit more success than you had with the support from this list. I had some problems with the Mesa HM2 configuration files that were solved

Re: [Emc-users] Beginner question

2009-07-08 Thread Rob Jansen
Peter, my driver is a CMD-50c which can handle 15-40v, and 3.5 amps, but I do not have access to anything above the 19v I currently have. Thanks for everything, it looks like I will be looking for other motors. Try to get hold of a power supply with a higher voltage. Coils, as used in

Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning--plot request

2009-08-08 Thread Rob Jansen
Dale, if the article is to show EMC capabilities in order to promote the retrofitting of EMC I am interested. I have a business relation with two of the same milling centers with very old Fanuc controllers. One is broken (PC problem) and repair will cost more than an EMC retrofit. Also the

[Emc-users] Advanced stuff - was Re: Servo tuning--plot request

2009-08-10 Thread Rob Jansen
Robert, Forget the fancy math. Mostly CAM takes care of that. Complicated sub routines aren't used a lot either. Main reasons being, the operator is likely to know nothing more than the standard Fanuc stuff and if he doesn't understand the code your asking for trouble. Commercially, time is

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa io card driving h bridge and counting encoders

2009-08-20 Thread Rob Jansen
Peter C. Wallace wrote: The three phase PWM generator does have high and low side drive and deadzone timers but a three phase drive is probably not a good beginner project :-) You can also count TTL encoder signals directly with the FPGA board. Hm, some good memories come back. My CNC

Re: [Emc-users] [~OT:] Another Excuse to use EMC2

2009-09-20 Thread Rob Jansen
Kirk Wallace wrote: Oops, the first video is of a laser, I meant to highlight the electron beam welding. But also real nice stuff. Excuse ... That it's Linux - gives a lot of nice extra features. One - very silly feature is the support for digital cameras. I recently misplaced my

Re: [Emc-users] Engrave.py cuts deeper and deeper

2009-09-23 Thread Rob Jansen
Sven, I'm using Rutex 990H cards and Minerva (Yaskawa robot) servo's rated 67 V/10 A, and I have so much power in the electric feed I can use the control box as a welding machine . These Rutex drivers are step-servo drives, meaning that they convert a stepper output (from your CNC

Re: [Emc-users] Engrave.py cuts deeper and deeper

2009-09-23 Thread Rob Jansen
Sven, Just try some fairly safe timings. On my drivers I started with 20 us step space / step time and 1000 us dir setup and hold. Those should be real safe values. I forgot, but is the problem only in the Z axis? With the axis always going down ? In that case could this be a mechanical slip?

Re: [Emc-users] Another homing question, but mine is really irritating ; -)

2009-09-24 Thread Rob Jansen
David, you mention both home and limit switches. Note that with EMC you can combine home and (of of the) limit switches on one actual switch. The good thing on homing is that you can determine the position of your vise, a fourth axis and maybe other - special - workpiece holders. EMC, as other

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 SMP

2009-09-25 Thread Rob Jansen
As Chris Radek stated there is no SMP for EMC2 - the main reason for this (as far as I know) is the strict real time behaviour of EMC2. You could indeed put two machines on one screen but I would strongly advice against this. I have been working in the computer field and used to control two, or

Re: [Emc-users] Engrave.py cuts deeper and deeper

2009-09-28 Thread Rob Jansen
Well, the figures do not compute, the spec tells me it's 18.2V 11A which would be max. 200 W. But I thing 0.4 Nm is very low for this wattage. As the spec also tells me it is meant for applications such as carriage of high speed printers and XY plotters. IMHO these are too small for a CNC

Re: [Emc-users] srm?

2009-09-28 Thread Rob Jansen
Hm, I don't have access to my EMC system right now, but the webserve also runs Ubuntu, it does accept the ~ on the commandline - as you can also see from the error in Aram's mail (Error: file TR2~ - No such ...). Maybe there are unprintable characters in the filename? You could try name

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