Re: [Emc-users] Carving a spiral

2024-04-10 Thread Dave Engvall
https://www.britannica.com/science/spiral-mathematics Several options here, take your pick. Should be trivial to move it from floating pt to fixed. May have to scale to make it happy. ;-) Dave > On Apr 10, 2024, at 12:09 AM, gene heskett wrote: > > On 4/10/24 01:57, John Dammeyer wrote: >>

Re: [Emc-users] Not so slight problem with spindle/tools

2024-03-20 Thread Dave Engvall
I have a very good Cat40 bolt to bench for installing tools but it is a nasty job to bolt the cat40 back into the spindle. If I could get access I’d pull the whole mess and replace (ideally). The stack is 105 washers so not too expensive. I’ll climb up on top and take another good look down

Re: [Emc-users] black list aliexpress

2024-03-20 Thread Dave Engvall
Considering how much of the Ru munitions have western chips proves how much of the world is willing to cheat for a buck. > On Mar 18, 2024, at 7:33 PM, gene heskett wrote: > > On 3/18/24 18:50, Jon Elson wrote: >> On 3/18/24 07:53, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote: >>> Gene, >>> >>> In all

Re: [Emc-users] Not so slight problem with spindle/tools

2024-03-19 Thread Dave Engvall
that is moving a lot of material in my case 8620 or 20 carbon steel, not too challenging. > On Mar 18, 2024, at 5:26 PM, andy pugh wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 at 21:13, Dave Engvall wrote: > >> So I’ve built Tee-nuts that will retain the cat40 assuming the >> M6 shcs hol

[Emc-users] Not so slight problem with spindle/tools

2024-03-18 Thread Dave Engvall
On my Muzak the belleville stack is too far gone to retain tools. Access is from the top which means removing the spindle motor, and transmission a nontrivial task. A couple of years earlier model everything came out the bottom and would have been a much easier job. So I’ve built Tee-nuts that

Re: [Emc-users] Axis direction

2024-03-04 Thread Dave Engvall
> On Feb 5, 2024, at 6:19 PM, gene heskett wrote: > > On 2/5/24 18:26, John Dammeyer wrote: >> Thanks everyone. On the Unimat list there were a number of people really >> pushing the idea that Z+ was towards the chuck and it just didn't make >> sense. And as we all know, nowadays once can

Re: [Emc-users] where to nuy gears

2024-03-04 Thread Dave Engvall
Stockgears.com makes plastic gears. However, they seem expensive to me. Been years since I’ve seen a price list. Dave Ps. Had to pull out a small cutting board they made as advertising to remember the name. ;-) > On Mar 4, 2024, at 9:30 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 at

Re: [Emc-users] Capto

2024-02-21 Thread Dave Engvall
Just cheat a bit. If you are belt driven then put a small idler/tensioner pulley arranged to be driven by the main belt. On the Mazak the servo motors had resolvers built in: with a 1:7 gear to increase the resolution . > On Jan 4, 2024, at 7:14 AM, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > We had gotten some

[Emc-users] Wandering in the wilderness

2023-02-27 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, I've pretty much finished the mechanical side of a add-on Y axis for my small mill. New axis is 25 mm rails,  2 nm stepper-servos and glass scales as quality control only. I have a Dell 790 with Debian 9 RT with Buster uspace. Hardware is 5i25 and single 7i76. Boots and comes up in sim

[Emc-users] Progress!

2023-02-17 Thread dave engvall
HI all, I've been occupied in building a new Y axis to go on top the x of my contourmaster. Nothing like jousting with windmills. 1" rails on top of a cold drawn/hot roll frame.  5/8" ballscrew. With the spindle as reference I get about a half thou deflection leaning on the axis in the y

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread dave engvall
Different strokes for different people. Tormach supplies a niche market and is surviving. :-) I went the other way and bought a machine with a dead control at auction. Trucked it in, shoved it thru the door of my shop and then spent the next year getting it running, New servo amps, servo-to-go

Re: [Emc-users] Home switches for LinuxCNC on a Lathe

2022-12-04 Thread dave engvall
I did something similar on a BP sized mill. Manually move x and y to roughly center the beam of a laser diode in a 3 mm hole in a tab at one end of the mill. Kick off homing for x and y and it will pick up the first index on each axis. You can then move from there to where your preferred zero

Re: [Emc-users] Deep slot chip removal

2022-12-02 Thread dave engvall
With an open machine I tend to us air rf vacuum to extract chips. One needs enough air movement to get turbulence for effective chip removal. I tend to start pockets, etc with a drill to within .02 of full depth. I've also drilled a pattern of holes to extract major volumes of material from

Re: [Emc-users] losing encoder counts

2022-10-06 Thread dave engvall
This make a good case for dual independent encoders. motor shaft/ballscrew, ballscrew/glass scale, steps/glass scale, etc. Just for grins I tried the hand crank on my well used (Boeing then trade school, the auction) defunct tracer mill converter by a Russian engineer to cnc for the trade

Re: [Emc-users] XSY inverters (VFD)

2022-09-25 Thread dave engvall
On 9/24/22 11:18 AM, gene heskett wrote: On 9/24/22 11:34, Jon Elson wrote: On 9/23/22 17:24, gene heskett wrote: Each brand of vfd seems to have its own setup. But that lf boost is a tricky one. I don't know if that invertor shows you the amperage being delivered but it seems it would be

Re: [Emc-users] missing tooth index questions..

2022-09-18 Thread dave engvall
This may be a bit wild  but use pll and trigger when the expected pulse doesn't appear. Maybe a bit far out of the box. Basically the reverse of synchronous detection. D On 9/18/22 1:59 PM, Sam Sokolik wrote: in case that screenshot didn't come through

Re: [Emc-users] Pocket milling

2022-09-18 Thread dave engvall
with an angle. For the first pass tool engagement will always be 100% so maybe start in the middle spiraling outwards is a good choice to keep tool engagement at the desired value is a good choice? Den 2022-09-18 kl. 18:57, skrev dave engvall: Hi Nicklas, Just a WAG, offset cutter maybe .25 mm from real

Re: [Emc-users] Pocket milling

2022-09-18 Thread dave engvall
Hi Nicklas, Just a WAG, offset cutter maybe .25 mm from real corner and plunge then clean up in incrementally with a couple of passes to clean out the wings. I think most cam programs just take light passes including the finish pass. How stiff the spindle is and sharpness of the cutter are

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc OEM?

2022-07-21 Thread dave engvall
One has to remember that emc was written not as a machine controller but to demonstrate the concept of communication between machines. In like manner steppers were an add-on. Linuxcnc is only alive today because of a critical mass of dedicated volunteer programmers. Dave On 7/21/22 2:32 AM,

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-04 Thread dave engvall
Indeed! Poly-Vee belts are acceptably quiet but of course then you need to rig an encoder. Probably a decent trade  off.  Available, not too expensive, transfer power well and seem to last. Years ago I made both of my pulleys. Dave On 7/4/22 10:05 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread dave engvall
solution. Note: Epoxy can always be removed with heat or chlorinated solvents but... Dave On 6/27/22 6:27 AM, dave engvall wrote: Back again; Since crawling in under the spindle is difficult for an old stiff guy I laid the iphone on the table and took a pic, rotated the spindle 45 degrees and took

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread dave engvall
Update: The drive lugs get in the way of a safety disk or ring or anything else. Epoxy looks more promising; just a semi-permanent solution. Note: Epoxy can always be removed with heat or chlorinated solvents but... Dave On 6/27/22 6:27 AM, dave engvall wrote: Back again; Since crawling

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread dave engvall
the radiator cap and run a new(er) one in. Still that brings all sorts of problems of its own. Hard to win. Back to the drawing table. ;-) Dave On 6/26/22 9:10 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 at 15:45, dave engvall wrote: A couple of solutions present themselves but neither are ideal

Re: [Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-27 Thread dave engvall
and totally supervise/instruct him what to do? On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 at 16:45, dave engvall wrote: Hi, My Mazak V5 has been down for a few years. First for brushes on the spindle motor and then a much more serious broken belleville stack. Unfortunately, the spindle on this model comes out from

[Emc-users] spindle problem

2022-06-26 Thread dave engvall
Hi, My Mazak V5 has been down for a few years. First for brushes on the spindle motor and then a much more serious broken belleville stack. Unfortunately, the spindle on this model comes out from the top which means pulling all the hydraulics and the spindle motor/transmission and getting

Re: [Emc-users] cable connector for lcda357H stepper_servo

2022-05-23 Thread dave engvall
1=1.56 On Mon, 23 May 2022 at 19:58, Rob C wrote: Is this the green connector plug? On Mon, 23 May 2022 at 18:57, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2022 at 18:41, dave engvall wrote: Can anyone provide a part number, eg. manufacturer or digikey, etc number for the 6 pin encoder cable con

[Emc-users] cable connector for lcda357H stepper_servo

2022-05-23 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, Can anyone provide a part number, eg. manufacturer or digikey, etc number for the 6 pin encoder cable connector on the LCDA357H controller. It should be identical to the cable end for the 6 pin connector for pul+, plu-, etc. As always I appreciate the help. As I age I seem to need

Re: [Emc-users] Do pnp prox switches need a pulldown load R?

2022-05-12 Thread dave engvall
Indeed!  Positional is critcal and useful. D On 5/12/22 2:07 PM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: Go traffic lights in Japan used to be blue. There may still be some blue ones in out of the way places. When the country adopted the international color standard for traffic light colors,

Re: [Emc-users] OT but built on linuxcnc machines:) affordable color sensor for project (24v model)

2022-05-12 Thread dave engvall
I like the idea of a web cam, much better than single chips. Even better if one can split out the  RGB channels, in which case you get built-in filters. Still concerned about getting enuf contrast off a thin film of marker pen; fluorescence?  Glad it is someone else's problem. Dave On

Re: [Emc-users] A bit OT: Looking for pinout for a Chinese Scale reader head

2022-05-08 Thread dave engvall
Indeed, it is an interesting approach. http://www.shumatech.com/support/chinese_scales.htm#Scale%20Connector It may be time to dig out the scope or to upgrade to newer scales and readout. If the glass scale is very good then it is probably worth the fuss ... else The chinese scales I got

Re: [Emc-users] Blown BOB and ???

2022-05-01 Thread dave engvall
Being used to servos the first thing I test is the estop. Saves damage to expensive mechanics. Once I was testing a new interface. Running it from lower left to upper right. It was gaining about .1" every pass. ... after about 4 passes it took off for the upper corner at full speed: 400 ipm. My

Re: [Emc-users] Do we have an m-code with access to halcmd?

2022-04-29 Thread dave engvall
Being a suspicious kind of guy I'd hang an encoder on the shaft and measure it. Jon Elson makes an  interface that  passes thru the encoder counts on a panasonic servo motor with your electronics background you ought to be able to do the same for your servo. Just thinking out loud which usually

Re: [Emc-users] Controlling DC motors.

2022-04-10 Thread dave engvall
Clearly OT! Indeed electronics have   come a long ways since then. I still have my Dad's 200 w-sec strobe. Oil filled caps from Edmund Salvage dumped to the flash tube with a thrytron. Later vintage an electronic ignition, nice toroid 6 v to 400 v converter and a decent SCR for my   PV544

[Emc-users] custom | stock bearing nut

2022-04-05 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, I have a pair of ball screws: THK KX 71227 A These are new but older and as far as I can tell not on the THK site. They are threaded on one end to retain a bearing. M15 x 0.8 or close. Does anyone know of a bearing nut that would fit or am I stuck with having a pair custom made? I've

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-31 Thread dave engvall
Works fine here. If someone had not commented I'd wouldn't  of had a clue. Dave On 3/31/22 12:54 PM, Martin Dobbins wrote: Perfect, thanks! Martin From: Lawrence Glaister very strange... working fine here. maybe try the http version... using firefox 98.0.2

Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder

2022-03-27 Thread dave engvall
At high rpm a resolver may make more sense ... and more $$. Depends. ?? Dave On 3/27/22 2:03 PM, ken.stra...@gmail.com wrote: Gene, do you have a part number for your high RPM Omron encoder? Maybe I can snag one... -Original Message- From: gene heskett Sent: March 27, 2022 4:49 PM

Re: [Emc-users] Because I can't seem to finish anything... Nebel lathe conversion.

2022-03-21 Thread dave engvall
It is my understanding that ball screws are case hardened so grind to get under the case and then things get easy. Interesting and good job on the ball nut. !! In line with the nebel prize: the machine should be a very light grey and your hand should pass thru it easily.  ;-) Nebel = fog.

Re: [Emc-users] Because I can't seem to finish anything... Nebel lathe conversion.

2022-03-18 Thread dave engvall
A while back I swapped out my accurite glass scales on x and y (manual mill) for 5 um Chinese ones because my  DRO was going bad. The accurite ones are better but were not compatible with a Chinese DRO. Still very good to passable without adding the builtin comp. Fixes the problem of counting

Re: [Emc-users] Graceful pi shutdown, power off

2022-02-15 Thread dave engvall
Those 'smart sockets' can be really handy. I use one to control the startup of my 3 phase rotary converter. That way I can be in the shop and only have the converter running when I need 3 phase. In the house is a manual lockout switch for times when I know I won't need 3 phase. Dave On

Re: [Emc-users] need gcode maker

2022-02-14 Thread dave engvall
I typically have gone to West Marine for epoxy. 5:1 mix ratio with metered pumps. Good  idea about avoiding the glass expander/thickener micro bubbles. :-) Fast, med and slow catalyst available. Dave On 2/14/22 2:10 AM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: Modern epoxies like the ones sold by

Re: [Emc-users] need gcode maker

2022-02-13 Thread dave engvall
doubt that Gene has 18-inches of Z-clearance on his small mill to thread the length of his desired screw plus spindle clearance to mill to the table might be an issue. -Original Message- From: dave engvall Sent: February 13, 2022 1:20 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re

Re: [Emc-users] need gcode maker

2022-02-13 Thread dave engvall
Other options for buttress. DIN |  ANSI .. Either grind a tool out of M2 or equivalent or go shopping for inserts on the web surplus sites. They won't be cheap but a bit less hassle. Single point thread mill?? Lathe sound easier than milling it. Dave On 2/13/22 9:37 AM, ken.stra...@gmail.com

Re: [Emc-users] IJK vs R

2022-02-10 Thread dave engvall
but that does not solve some conditions. Can't win them all. Dave On 2/9/22 4:17 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 19:30, dave engvall wrote: Hi, It would appear that the 'easy' way to compare the two methods would be to use sim or usrspace. That would get it plotted but I doubt

[Emc-users] IJK vs R

2022-02-09 Thread dave engvall
Hi, It would appear that the 'easy' way to compare the two methods would be to  use  sim or usrspace. That would get it plotted but I doubt the differences, unless gross, would be easily detectable on a plot. I've forgotten, if indeed I ever knew how to list output from something that

Re: [Emc-users] Trouble with arc error

2022-02-07 Thread dave engvall
Hi, I've read the assertion many times that ijk is better than radius and always assumed it to be correct; but by how much. Few of us run machines and are 'new' tigjht ;-) Maybe  I've not looked in the right place(s) for an analysis or for demonstrated interp of circles with some kind of error

Re: [Emc-users] What Would You Suggest?

2022-02-04 Thread dave engvall
Hi, I seem to remember a crank as in crankshaft lashup to drive the table. Personally I think the hydraulic setup is better but harder to achieve. The free lunch is hard to find. Dave On 2/4/22 9:11 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: From: Kenneth Lerman [mailto:ler...@se-ltd.com] The longitudinal

Re: [Emc-users] Mini-itx 64bit mother board with parallel port

2022-02-03 Thread dave engvall
Yep! Brain dead, missed those. Dave On 2/3/22 8:33 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 at 15:28, dave engvall wrote: At first glance it looks pretty good but lacks pci slots unless my eyes have fully given out. Ditto on disk interface. Assuming you mean https://www.onlogic.com/pd14ri

Re: [Emc-users] Mini-itx 64bit mother board with parallel port

2022-02-03 Thread dave engvall
Greetings: At first glance it looks pretty good but lacks pci slots unless my eyes have fully given out. Ditto on disk interface. So unless the pport has a good EPP and therefore useful for 7i43 | USC | ppmc it is not a good deal. Just my tuppence. Dave On 2/2/22 10:43 PM, Chris Albertson

Re: [Emc-users] motherboard that plays well with 7i43

2022-01-28 Thread dave engvall
My thinking is that the 7i43 is best used for rt tasks with an EPP port, hence the problem. I should have been more explicit.   The plan is mb -> 7i43 -> 7i42 for stepper-servos. Dave On 1/28/22 11:17 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 10:18 AM dave engvall wrote: h

[Emc-users] motherboard that plays well with 7i43

2022-01-28 Thread dave engvall
hi, I'm looking for users that are actually using a motherboard with a 7i43 and can recommend candidate boards from experience. Thanks in advance. Dave ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] miniature taper-lock type pulleys

2022-01-27 Thread dave engvall
On 1/27/22 1:47 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 04:49, Ralph Stirling wrote: I got to wondering if it would be possible to make a miniature taper lock type bushing and pulley to clamp onto a stepper shaft. Anybody ever seen anything like that? I have designed and used a few

Re: [Emc-users] miniature taper-lock type pulleys

2022-01-26 Thread dave engvall
I assume everyone knows about these. https://www.fennerdrives.com/trantorque/ Not cheap but tend to work. Dave On 1/26/22 8:30 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: I had some problems today with a small XL timing pulley slipping on a NEMA17 stepper shaft due to the set screw loosening after running for

Re: [Emc-users] rotary table re-engineeering

2022-01-23 Thread dave engvall
Known good part obscures the problem of shrinkage unless you want them to take your known good and scale it for shrinkage which they will do at $$/hr. ;-) Working from their shrink % will allow you to do the sizing and that make it simple for them. A foundry 100 mi or so from me and out in the

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-16 Thread dave engvall
Cu inhibits algae and should do a decent job on most bacteria. So a bit of Cu sulfate. Zn chloride and or ferrous chloride inhibits moss but the ferrous oxidizes to ferric and stains siding/concrete so use the chloride. In a pinch just use a bit of Clorox; even peroxide should do the job. If

Re: [Emc-users] Very good software backlash control demo.

2022-01-04 Thread dave engvall
Hi, I ran across an article by one of the servo drive firms that said the using two sensors/axis improved motion. I think they used a resolver on the drive and an encoder on the ball screw. While this improves motion that assumes you have very good ball screws. I think that a better approach

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-25 Thread dave engvall
I'd be lost w/o a command line editor. vi may be vile but vim can be surprising useful. My feeble brain still can't get configurations that work with a gui type  configure.  I'll gladly take a framework and modifiy it to suit my needs. Wish list: smoother motion probably via sine wave,

Re: [Emc-users] Complex 6 axis robot arm.

2021-12-23 Thread dave engvall
I must say John that you are much more patient than I. As long as the parts will take the heat warming helps drive the epoxy cure. Roughly 10 degrees C doubles the reaction rate. 175 F or 80 C is a good place to start. Assuming RT is 20 then 80-20 = 60 or 2^6 X. Naturally one may have to back

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-21 Thread dave engvall
Soaking the plaster of paris encased part in sodium bicarb in water should dissolve the POP. Use as much bicarb as the weight of the plaster of paris. I've  not tried this so YMMV. ;-) Dave On 12/21/21 1:34 AM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: One method of strengthening 3D printed

Re: [Emc-users] ER32 collet chuck

2021-12-07 Thread dave engvall
Apparently standard grade collets are grade A , AA collets are concentric to 5 um. https://www.parlec.com/Products/Tool-Holding/ER-Collet-Chucks/Collets/5-Micron-(AA)/Inch-(1) Dave On 12/7/21 4:16 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Does anyone know the difference between the non AA and AA collets?

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle positioning.

2021-11-21 Thread dave engvall
On 11/21/21 9:24 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I'm running my AC Servo spindle motor as step/dir and can easily tell LCNC to do 1 RPM. I also have the quadrature encoder on it so I can do power tapping. The drive is through the MESA 7i92H as one of the stepper channels as is the encoder

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-11-15 Thread dave engvall
In converting my Mazak I just tied a toggle switch to the control line for the valve that ran the hydraulics for tool release. One hand on the switch and one on the tool. Rather crude but it worked until the belleville stack broke. Dave On 11/14/21 4:02 AM, Roland Jollivet wrote: On a BT30

[Emc-users] 7i90 ethernet link

2021-11-15 Thread dave engvall
Is anyone using ethernet as a link between linuxcnc and a 7i90? Comments and/help appreciated Dave ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Project Progress

2021-11-04 Thread dave engvall
For the fussy or perfectionist water cool. Probably water cool the ballscrew as heat conduction will be far superior to trying  to cool the acetal nut. Yep! I just fell out of the trees and damaged my head. ;-) Dave On 11/4/21 2:46 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 at 21:34, John

Re: [Emc-users] Project Progress

2021-11-04 Thread dave engvall
The aquaium pump should keep the sump aerobic. I suppose adding a bit of peroxide from time to time would do the same thing. If you let the sump go reducing (anaerobic) then the beastie that grow make volatile fatty acids and other wonderful smelling ( :-(  ) by-products. I live in a high

Re: [Emc-users] Prox sensors and wiring

2021-11-04 Thread dave engvall
Hi Andy, I have a box of those connectors in a 6 wide and will get a box of 1 wide and two wide. My thoughts are when used outside in a marine environment to glop some 3M Scotchcoat on them. Of course that make them rather fixed but they are cheap. :-) Dave On 11/4/21 1:44 AM, andy pugh

Re: [Emc-users] Shortening motor shafts

2021-10-18 Thread dave engvall
I use 1/16" grinding discs all the time for such. I think I'd arrange to clamp the shaft  not the motor frame so as to reduce vibration on the bearings. It it amazing what those discs will do at reasonable speeds. Dave On 10/17/21 10:27 PM, andrew beck wrote: Quick and easy way is to use a

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread dave engvall
Being lazy and cheap I would clamp the piece broken handle side up to a plate using a pin thru the hole as a second reference for holding, If necessary use a screw thru the hole depending on  size. Now that you have it affixed, probe profile and convert to dwg/cad. Machine off the casting on

Re: [Emc-users] more dc servo questions

2021-09-22 Thread dave engvall
Hi, Fully recognizing that nothing is impossible to the person that doesn't have to make it work.  With that proviso I will open mouth and insert foot. To wit: a sine for acceleration should give a more gentle startup and approach to end point. Of course implementation is left as an exercise

Re: [Emc-users] more dc servo questions

2021-09-20 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, To the best of my knowledge any version of the lcnc pid is in software. OTOH mesa does offer SOFTDMC which does run in/on mesa fpga products. However, that breaks the core concept of multiple vendors and real ease of user modification of the software although there are a few in this

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-25 Thread dave engvall
IIRC emc was conceived as a vehicle to test intercommunication between processes and as such higher level features such as lookahead,  smoothing, etc were not part of the master plan. In fact emc would not have had stepping if Matt Shaver had not requested it. Now on to the real subject of

[Emc-users] jerk and a bit of humor

2021-08-23 Thread dave engvall
read all the way to the bottom for the humor. https://www.linearmotiontips.com/how-to-reduce-jerk-in-linear-motion-systems/ Dave ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Something went wrong.

2021-08-04 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, Everyone has their own favorite way of workholding.  Without good work holding nothing good follows. Thin angle stock I clamp in the vise with a rectangular block as suggested below. However, my most common approach is to bolt it down usually with 1/4" shcs, which implies gr 8. If I

Re: [Emc-users] Something went wrong.

2021-08-02 Thread dave engvall
HI John, If I'm reading correctly it is  OK with conventional milling but off with climb. Too weird!  I guess the next step would be to mill it conventional and overlay with climb and see what happens. Maybe  a bit of layout dye between runs. The alternative would seem to be that Murphy and

Re: [Emc-users] Something went wrong.

2021-08-02 Thread dave engvall
Weird! Is it repeatable? Did the program use R or I,J? Just fishing? ;-) Dave On 8/1/21 7:25 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: The milling operation was set up to always be climb milling. Zero point for the center hole and the outside perimeter was the same. And yet it milled more away on the LH

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread dave engvall
Although electrical inspectors tend to be a  power unto themselves they still have to follow the rules. i.e. WAC's and local and national electrical codes. Be as gentle as possible they tend to be prickly. Being WW they no doubt see a bunch of EU stuff for wineries. Clearly the machine didn't

Re: [Emc-users] A new lathe encoder option.

2021-07-21 Thread dave engvall
"The solution is to either add more counts per revolution or use a ten timesmore complex control algorithm." IIUC then the real problem here is statistical. That is the sample size is too small to be significant. Maybe an over-simplification of the issue but: I think there are a couple of

Re: [Emc-users] A new lathe encoder option.

2021-07-21 Thread dave engvall
"The solution is to either add more counts per revolution or use a ten timesmore complex control algorithm." IIUC then the real problem here is statistical. That is the sample size is too small to be significant. Maybe an over-simplification of the issue but: I think there are a couple of

[Emc-users] center of circle

2021-07-12 Thread dave engvall
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/213658/get-the-equation-of-a-circle-when-given-3-points ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] OT: power, horsepower, and a bad brain

2021-07-12 Thread dave engvall
Hi, Alternators like to be spun fast. Max rpm 10K but 6Krpm is a good place to operate. It is easy to damage pb-acid batteries while charging. See https://www.solar-electric.com/lib/wind-sun/Iota-charging-deep-cycle-batteries.pdf There are better guides on the web but this is the first one

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread dave engvall
From my view as a 'older' person: the CoC simply weaponizes those who want to be nasty. I visit another forum where about half the members are polite and the other half apparently didn't get much parenting . profane, aggressive, nasty, lacking basic spelling and language skills, etc.

[Emc-users] another printer project?

2021-06-29 Thread dave engvall
https://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail?ExhibitID=325495=%2D1103937792=d47436=210629=d253f6=Vol21Issue26=1=2070084=link%5F2070084=367418=95281=newsletter=nl=414029 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Machining question

2021-06-20 Thread dave engvall
On the Z for my Cinci I cheat by running the encoder off a small idler driven by the belt between the servo and the ball screw. Gets me about 5X number of counts. In more practical terms ~100K count/in. Encoders off the end of the ball screws are 40K/in. I pretty much standardize on Koyo 2500

Re: [Emc-users] Machining question

2021-06-18 Thread dave engvall
It is not unusual for shaft mounted encoders to have some strain relief rather than a hard connection. see link.

Re: [Emc-users] looking for info on yaskawa servo drive model numbers from morbidelli cnc router

2021-05-24 Thread dave engvall
file:///tmp/mozilla_dave0/MTN-696TBC-1.pdf On 5/24/21 7:12 AM, Andrew wrote: пн, 24 трав. 2021 о 13:41 andrew beck пише: I don't think it has any USB connectors. I do know that the io controls all go through the plugs on the bottom. One for encoder feedback from motor. One for the input

Re: [Emc-users] homing off glass scale

2021-05-22 Thread dave engvall
Talk about having a bad day. Sure glad the extras were just a recipe and not something private. :-) Dave ps. clear down at the bottom of the post is the 'real post' about homing with a glass scale. You can delete  90% of it and won't miss a thing. On 5/22/21 8:09 AM, dave engvall wrote

[Emc-users] homing off glass scale

2021-05-22 Thread dave engvall
Instructions * Rinse and pat the shrimp dry, then transfer to a large mixing bowl. Drizzle with 1/2 tablespoon olive oil and sprinkle with the chili powder, chipotle chili, cumin, and salt. Toss to coat evenly. Let rest while you prepare the shrimp taco sauce and slaw. *

[Emc-users] Chinese glass scale

2021-05-06 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, Just as a matter of interest I thought I'd throw this out there. A while ago I messed up one of my acu-rite glass scales ( boo-hoo!) It goes off for repair and I mounted a Chinese glass scale as a temp replacement. This is mounted on the X of my Cinci contoumaster. Year of manufacture

[Emc-users] 7i43 usage

2021-04-17 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, I'm trying to use a 7i43 I've had on the shelf for awhile. 200K version despite the error message. :-) I've tried it on several motherboards and several paraport cards with pretty much the same result. Hopefully someone can give me a hint of what is really wrong. Below is the message

Re: [Emc-users] Rpi4B OS

2021-04-07 Thread dave engvall
So if I have a raspian os running that will run linuxcnc ??? an arm version that is. ...and I've   gone thru a  whole lot of angst for nothing? Dave On 4/7/21 9:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 07 April 2021 01:24:35 dave engvall wrote: You can use dd, on an x86 box to write the u

Re: [Emc-users] Rpi4B OS

2021-04-07 Thread dave engvall
nos with uspace(?) will do that I'm happy. I just need something to WORK. ;-) With some pain I can use my wife's  Mac and the rpi-tools to get an image on to the SD. Wandering in the wilderness. Dave On 4/7/21 7:31 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 15:25, dave engvall wrote: Image is

Re: [Emc-users] Rpi4B OS

2021-04-07 Thread dave engvall
Image is one at top of page.  buster 4 G https://raspi.debian.net/tested-images/ I'm doing everything  on a I7 with Ubuntu 16.04.1 then write to 32G SD an take that to the pi. Dave On 4/7/21 12:49 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 06:28, dave engvall wrote: attempt to install

Re: [Emc-users] Rpi4B OS

2021-04-06 Thread dave engvall
On 4/6/21 10:24 PM, dave engvall wrote: OK, so I download 20210210_raspi_4_buster.img.xz check sha256 and it matches make a *.img out of it. attempt to install the rpi-imager   no x86 version.   so use dd dd to SD:   dd bs = 1M if=202010210-raspi_4.buster.img of=/media/dave/3339-3839

Re: [Emc-users] Rpi4B OS

2021-04-06 Thread dave engvall
OK, so I download 20210210_raspi_4_buster.img.xz check sha256 and it matches make a *.img out of it. attempt to install the rpi-imager   no x86 version.   so use dd dd to SD:   dd bs = 1M if=202010210-raspi_4.buster.img of=/media/dave/3339-3839/rpi_4_buster unmount put SD in rpi4B and power

[Emc-users] Rpi4B OS

2021-04-06 Thread dave engvall
Hi, After much fuss due to a bad assumption I made I finally managed to flash the 7i90 for spi. Easy when you do it right. However, loading an OS isn't going well: Download a buster image as a .zip. Unpack to get an .img. dd .img to 32G SD, stick in slot and power up. I get 4 blinks ( no elf )

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle rps and index

2021-03-18 Thread dave engvall
My Mazak V5 had a coarse helix cam which oriented the spindle. The one at Galesburg used something closer to  an  inductive sensor to sense index.. I think that got swapped out for an encoder. Once it picked up the index it then rotated n counts to index the spindle for tool change.  If memory

Re: [Emc-users] Probe recommendations.

2021-03-14 Thread dave engvall
I suspect Belarus. On 3/14/21 10:09 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2021 06:34:04 andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 10:07, Gene Heskett wrote: https://vers.by/en/touch-probes/9-vers-pr.html What is this in USD? It says "355.00 BYN~ 10050 RUB, 136 USD, 113 EUR"

Re: [Emc-users] Nice camera/probe integration

2021-03-12 Thread dave engvall
I rather hate to think of the cost ... beautiful stuff ... German made. It is easy to make a probe; good software to extract the real value of the probe, not so easy. Dave On 3/12/21 9:14 AM, Ralph Stirling wrote: This would be an awesome setup for Linuxcnc.

[Emc-users] Rpi4B_7i90

2021-03-09 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, I'm trying to get an Rpi4b -> 7i90 going. Ralph Stirling made an interface board for the pi that allows one to flash the spi. The following is copy of the procedure: On Rpi: $ git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/openocd/code openocd $ cd openocd $ ./bootstrap $ ./configure

Re: [Emc-users] isolcpus?

2021-03-09 Thread dave engvall
The few  times I've had different counts re' direction it has been a broken flex coupling to the encoder. Of course it could be that you are simply running out of frequency response. Not likely but possible. Dave On 3/7/21 12:54 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 07 March 2021 14:07:33 Feral

Re: [Emc-users] Fiber laser power requirements - any experience out there?

2021-03-03 Thread dave engvall
https://www.toolots.com/quality-ezcad-jpt-30w-fiber-laser-engraver-marking-machine-for-metal.html?cid=10310162125=EAIaIQobChMIkY-kjNaU7wIVEz2tBh35iAhYEAQYBCABEgJiv_D_BwE Others seem to use more power; like 80 to 100 w but not necessarily FO. Dave On 3/3/21 9:34 AM, Curtis Dutton wrote: I have

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