Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 10:16 AM Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2021 Tue, 29 Jun 09:16:19 -0400 > Gene Heskett scripsit: > > > > > How about we just adopt the Golden Rule - do unto others as you would > > > have them do unto you. That seems to have worked well for many > > > thousands

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2021 Tue, 29 Jun 15:25:51 +0100 andy pugh scripsit: > On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 15:18, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > +1 CoC guarantees nontechnical tentacles grab hold on technical projects. > > Nobody needs those "management" types. > > I don't see any real risk of that happening

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 9:52 AM Ed wrote: > On 6/29/21 7:55 AM, ken.stra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Perhaps just say "NO!" to such silliness? I have been on this mailing > list for years and don't recall any instances of bad behaviour. I only very > occasionally know enough about a topic to

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 15:18, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > +1 CoC guarantees nontechnical tentacles grab hold on technical projects. > Nobody needs those "management" types. I don't see any real risk of that happening to LinuxCNC. Apart from anything else I doubt that anyone non-technical has

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
this; > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Yaniv who hides behind being trans > to be a social pest. And in effect making life hard for those that are > truly suffering. > > On 29/6/21 10:10 pm, Les Newell wrote: > > I find it mildly ironic that the introduction of a code of

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2021 Tue, 29 Jun 09:16:19 -0400 Gene Heskett scripsit: > > > How about we just adopt the Golden Rule - do unto others as you would > > have them do unto you. That seems to have worked well for many > > thousands of years. Leave the sexual preference bullcrap somewhere > > else

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread R C
Yeah,  but the problem with that is, that when you "leave it alone" or ignore it, contrary to "old fashioned belief", the woke and self proclaimed morally/ethically superior won't leave you alone. Look at the Centos list/project, they have now have meetings "the group/meeting of smart

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Les Newell
Who was the 2nd person I attacked ? You attacked Jessica Yaniv and Coraline Ada Ehmke. The list is not the place for this kind of politics. I won't make any further posts on this subject but you are welcome to take it off-list if you really want to. Les

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread dave engvall
From my view as a 'older' person: the CoC simply weaponizes those who want to be nasty. I visit another forum where about half the members are polite and the other half apparently didn't get much parenting . profane, aggressive, nasty, lacking basic spelling and language skills, etc.

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Ed
On 6/29/21 7:55 AM, ken.stra...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps just say "NO!" to such silliness? I have been on this mailing list for years and don't recall any instances of bad behaviour. I only very occasionally know enough about a topic to contribute but I've been delighted with the help received

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Robert Murphy
Les, Who was the 2nd person I attacked ? The Yaniv person and their antics have been widely and truthfully in the media. The “shave my b” thing was dealt by the Canadian courts. The reason for the “trans thing” is the driving force behind the CofC is trans and has spoken of it themselves. If

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 08:57 -0400, Mark Wendt wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:46 AM Valerio Bellizzomi < > vale...@selnet.org> > wrote: > > > In my organization, which also involes machining, it is a question > > of > > transparency of project management, statement of compliance with > >

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 June 2021 07:47:58 Mark Wendt wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 6:51 AM Valerio Bellizzomi > > > wrote: > > I think this CoC leaves a lot to be desired. But can I suggest a > > very good one, one which I adopted in my own organization? > > > > https://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/ > >

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Les Newell
What on earth does the subject of being trans have to do with this list? You also personally attacked two people so far in this thread. That goes against the CoC. Les On 29/06/2021 14:00, Robert Murphy wrote: Do you care to point out this..oh hang on I did call someone not involved in

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Robert Murphy
those that are truly suffering. On 29/6/21 10:10 pm, Les Newell wrote: I find it mildly ironic that the introduction of a code of conduct triggered one of the few posts I've seen on this list that breaks the code of conduct... _______ Emc-users ma

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:46 AM Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > In my organization, which also involes machining, it is a question of > transparency of project management, statement of compliance with > management standards, and commitment to a positive work place. It is > also a means to resolve

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread ken.strauss
eep things as they are! -Original Message- From: fxkl47BF via Emc-users Sent: June 29, 2021 8:14 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\) Cc: fxkl47BF Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, June 29th, 2021 at 3:52 AM, Robert Murphy wrote: > I h

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:13 AM Les Newell wrote: > I find it mildly ironic that the introduction of a code of conduct > triggered one of the few posts I've seen on this list that breaks the > code of conduct... > What makes you think any of the posts so far broke the code of conduct? We get

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 07:47 -0400, Mark Wendt wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 6:51 AM Valerio Bellizzomi < > vale...@selnet.org> > wrote: > > > I think this CoC leaves a lot to be desired. But can I suggest a > > very > > good one, one which I adopted in my own organization? > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread fxkl47BF via Emc-users
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, June 29th, 2021 at 3:52 AM, Robert Murphy wrote: > I have a feeling that there is a boiler plate/template for the Code of > Conduct. > Rumours abound relating to projects being forced to have one. have one or be labeled non-conformist and be

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Les Newell
I find it mildly ironic that the introduction of a code of conduct triggered one of the few posts I've seen on this list that breaks the code of conduct... ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 6:51 AM Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > I think this CoC leaves a lot to be desired. But can I suggest a very > good one, one which I adopted in my own organization? > > https://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/ > > > Regards. > My only question is why in the heck is this even

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 09:10 +0100, andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 04:14, John Dammeyer > wrote: > > At the risk of being banned I'd suggest that this one point is a > > bit extreme: > > > > "Excessive or unwelcome helping; answering outside the scope of the > > question asked" > > It

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Robert Murphy
hahaha well said But aren't all the cool electronics kids well into grbl & arduino ? On 29/6/21 7:28 pm, Bari wrote: On 6/29/21 3:52 AM, Robert Murphy wrote: what are biggest hurdles for running a 3D printer with Linuxcnc. People telling you that you should be using a *duino and GRBL and

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Bari
On 6/29/21 3:52 AM, Robert Murphy wrote: what are biggest hurdles for running a 3D printer with Linuxcnc. People telling you that you should be using a *duino and GRBL and doing less with less. ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Robert Murphy
I have a feeling that there is a boiler plate/template for the Code of Conduct. Rumours abound relating to projects being forced to have one. The great thing about forums and mailing list is you can skip those topics you want. 3D printing seems to be what the young people jive with. Not being

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 04:14, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > > At the risk of being banned I'd suggest that this one point is a bit > > extreme: > > > > "Excessive or unwelcome helping; answering outside the scope of the > > question asked" > > It

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2021 Tue, 29 Jun 09:10:35 +0100 andy pugh scripsit: > On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 04:14, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > > At the risk of being banned I'd suggest that this one point is a bit > > extreme: > > > > "Excessive or unwelcome helping; answering outside the scope of the > >

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 04:14, John Dammeyer wrote: > > At the risk of being banned I'd suggest that this one point is a bit extreme: > > "Excessive or unwelcome helping; answering outside the scope of the question > asked" It does seem a little odd. I suspect it is aimed at some manner of

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 June 2021 03:39:08 Robert Murphy wrote: > Look John, > > Part of backlash towards the Code of Conduct in the beginning, I think > it was 2018 that it really became public, was whether code was based > on merit or who wrote it. Now that goes against the grain of OSS. I > accept that

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Robert Murphy
Look John, Part of backlash towards the Code of Conduct in the beginning, I think it was 2018 that it really became public, was whether code was based on merit or who wrote it. Now that goes against the grain of OSS. I accept that my views can be a “bit out there”, but I wish no harm to anyone

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread R C
I agree with you John,  and what some others said on here, about this coc thing ... I have been lurking on here for a good long while,  and asked some questions lately...   but I think I can say that I have never really seen anything mean/inappropriate  posted here (although I don't

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Robert Murphy [mailto:robert.mur...@gmx.com] > I have a feeling this post maybe violating the Code of Conduct. Your post violates the spirit of what LinuxCNC and open source forims is all about and IMHO there is no place for that on this forum. I want to learn from experienced

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread R C
ngs better Ron John Dammeyer -Original Message- From: Jeff Epler [mailto:jep...@unpythonic.net] Sent: June-28-21 6:26 PM To: Jeff Epler Subject: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct The LinuxCNC community including this mailing list now has a written code of conduct. Unless it's your idea of fun

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-29 Thread Robert Murphy
Ron John Dammeyer -Original Message- From: Jeff Epler [mailto:jep...@unpythonic.net] Sent: June-28-21 6:26 PM To: Jeff Epler Subject: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct The LinuxCNC community including this mailing list now has a written code of conduct. Unless it's your idea of fun to harass oth

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-28 Thread R C
helps me understand things better Ron John Dammeyer -Original Message- From: Jeff Epler [mailto:jep...@unpythonic.net] Sent: June-28-21 6:26 PM To: Jeff Epler Subject: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct The LinuxCNC community including this mailing list now has a written code of conduct. Unl

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-28 Thread Robert Murphy
etter Ron John Dammeyer -Original Message- From: Jeff Epler [mailto:jep...@unpythonic.net] Sent: June-28-21 6:26 PM To: Jeff Epler Subject: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct The LinuxCNC community including this mailing list now has a written code of conduct. Unless it's your idea of fun to

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-28 Thread R C
26 PM To: Jeff Epler Subject: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct The LinuxCNC community including this mailing list now has a written code of conduct. Unless it's your idea of fun to harass other people, this is a big non-event for you. You can read the code of conduct here: https://www.linuxcnc.org/CO

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-28 Thread John Dammeyer
6:26 PM > To: Jeff Epler > Subject: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct > > The LinuxCNC community including this mailing list now has a written > code of conduct. Unless it's your idea of fun to harass other people, > this is a big non-event for you. > > You can read the code

[Emc-users] Code of Conduct

2021-06-28 Thread Jeff Epler
The LinuxCNC community including this mailing list now has a written code of conduct. Unless it's your idea of fun to harass other people, this is a big non-event for you. You can read the code of conduct here: https://www.linuxcnc.org/CODE_OF_CONDUCT/ Jeff

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