Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-13 Thread Karl Jacobs
I did exactly that with a BBB and Xylotex cape, using one of the unused limit inputs for a single pulse per rev sensor. You might want to follow the discussion on https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/machinekit/RW_bnXdXzyE (you'll have to read up to the end). You need a little familiarity with

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-13 Thread John Dammeyer
So I've done a little more investigation all without spending any money yet. The Probotix web site links to the wiki which points to the MachineKit LinuxCNC for the BBB. I downloaded the 8GB image and installed it on a MicroSD card. Stuck it in a Rev B (2GB FLASH) BBB and booted. It shows up a

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 8/12/2015 6:22 AM, John Alexander Stewart wrote: > 5) I've a larger, stronger lathe (a big brother to the Unimat - an Emco > Compact-8) that is my target lathe for CNC; not sure if I'm going to > develop the Unimat further. That's what the Denford ORAC was based on. Somewhere there's a forum

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread Dave Cole
On 8/12/2015 4:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 12 August 2015 12:35:18 Dave Caroline wrote: > >> Why stepper ? gearing up the speed with a pulley even less sense, they >> lose so much torque at a sensible lathe spindle speed that I cannot >> understand the reasoning for going down the wro

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 12 August 2015 12:35:18 Dave Caroline wrote: > Why stepper ? gearing up the speed with a pulley even less sense, they > lose so much torque at a sensible lathe spindle speed that I cannot > understand the reasoning for going down the wrong rabbit hole. > > Just think what would happen

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread Dave Caroline
Why stepper ? gearing up the speed with a pulley even less sense, they lose so much torque at a sensible lathe spindle speed that I cannot understand the reasoning for going down the wrong rabbit hole. Just think what would happen if your chatter frequency was anywhere near the stepper resonance t

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Gene, Thanks, Warning, Ramblings have been edited for size. > Warning, generalized ramblings of an old fart follow. . > Usable torque was pretty much gone by 2000 rpm. > I agree. Since the resolution for the spindle isn't nearly as a big a deal for a spindle I thought I'd use pulleys to st

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread John Dammeyer
> On Wednesday 12 August 2015 08:43:33 andy pugh wrote: > > > On 12 August 2015 at 13:36, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > This is a case where a hardware stepgen might be needed as software > > > only has a limit in output step frequency on the x86 driven pc of > > > 40Khz that is largely removed by th

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/12/2015 07:43 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 12 August 2015 at 13:36, Gene Heskett wrote: >> This is a case where a hardware stepgen might be needed as software only >> has a limit in output step frequency on the x86 driven pc of 40Khz that >> is largely removed by the use of something like a mes

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread John Dammeyer
> Hi John; > > I've a small Unimat SL that I've CNC'd (and talked about it at the last > CNCWorkShop back in June, and in my blog) > > Some random thoughts: > > 1) Beaglebone is fine. Sure, graphics is slow, but so what? Change "Axis" > to the DRO display and you are fine. That's what I thought

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 12 August 2015 08:43:33 andy pugh wrote: > On 12 August 2015 at 13:36, Gene Heskett wrote: > > This is a case where a hardware stepgen might be needed as software > > only has a limit in output step frequency on the x86 driven pc of > > 40Khz that is largely removed by the use of som

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 August 2015 at 13:36, Gene Heskett wrote: > This is a case where a hardware stepgen might be needed as software only > has a limit in output step frequency on the x86 driven pc of 40Khz that > is largely removed by the use of something like a mesa 5i25 card. The Beaglebone has a PRU (and a

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 12 August 2015 01:31:07 John Dammeyer wrote: > > I am one who is running a small lathe with LinuxCNC, which it does > > far better than I can. > > > > This subject has come up in the past, and I don't recall anyone > > saying "no it can't be done." > > > > Given a big enough motor, I

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Hi John; I've a small Unimat SL that I've CNC'd (and talked about it at the last CNCWorkShop back in June, and in my blog) Some random thoughts: 1) Beaglebone is fine. Sure, graphics is slow, but so what? Change "Axis" to the DRO display and you are fine. 2) My OLD Unimat has a not so great spi

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 August 2015 at 09:37, John Dammeyer wrote: > The lack of a spindle input or PWM output on the Probotix cape and the > higher price of the PMDX cape rules out the Beagle for any sort of Linux CNC > at the moment. That and what appears to be a lack of continuing support for > the Beagle and L

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread John Dammeyer
> John, > > If you are using a stepper at any significant revs, will there not be a problem > as the torque drops off as the rpm increase (unlike a servo)? > > Marcus Thanks Marcus, Yes. I realize that. The lack of a spindle input or PWM output on the Probotix cape and the higher price of the P

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread Marcus Bowman
John, If you are using a stepper at any significant revs, will there not be a problem as the torque drops off as the rpm increase (unlike a servo)? Marcus On 12 Aug 2015, at 08:28, John Dammeyer wrote: >>> >>> LinuxCNC can create any mixture of step pulses, PWM, and other ways of >>> controll

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-12 Thread John Dammeyer
> > > > LinuxCNC can create any mixture of step pulses, PWM, and other ways of > > controlling motors. The motor interface is modular and you can set it up > > to do just about anything. > > > > > > jmkasun...@fastmail.fm > > > > Linuxcnc doesn't actually support the beaglebone. > It was suppor

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-11 Thread Chris Morley
> From: jmkasun...@fastmail.fm > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:58:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe. > > > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2015, at 01:31 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > > In this cas

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-11 Thread John Kasunich
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015, at 01:31 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: > > In this case I'm considering installing it on a Unimat Lathe. The 650 oz-in > size 34 motor appears to be large enough compared to the small DC brush > motor currently attached. I'd have to step up the RPM in order to get the > turnin

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-11 Thread John Dammeyer
> I am one who is running a small lathe with LinuxCNC, which it does far > better than I can. > > This subject has come up in the past, and I don't recall anyone > saying "no it can't be done." > > Given a big enough motor, I see no huge show stopper in substituting a > stepgen for the pwmgen mo

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-11 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 23:53 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 11 August 2015 21:43:46 John Dammeyer wrote: > > > I'm thinking of ordering one of the Probotix Breakout Boards for my > > Beagle Bone Black. Probotix has a downloadable image of LinuxCNC so > > getting it up and running shouldn'

Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 11 August 2015 21:43:46 John Dammeyer wrote: > I'm thinking of ordering one of the Probotix Breakout Boards for my > Beagle Bone Black. Probotix has a downloadable image of LinuxCNC so > getting it up and running shouldn't be an issue. > > http://www.probotix.com/CNC-CONTROL-SYSTEMS/BR

[Emc-users] BeagleBone and LinuxCNC for a lathe.

2015-08-11 Thread John Dammeyer
I'm thinking of ordering one of the Probotix Breakout Boards for my Beagle Bone Black. Probotix has a downloadable image of LinuxCNC so getting it up and running shouldn't be an issue. http://www.probotix.com/CNC-CONTROL-SYSTEMS/BREAKOUT-BOARDS/PBX-BB-BeagleBon e-Breakout-Board I've not looke