Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-20 Thread Nicolas HENRY
Hi ! I think LinuxCNC is better ... look like many others say.. Just when searching on the web if i put Linux and cnc the result will be more top and first on Linuxcnc than EMC that's is a name acronym ... which is use more and more now... try it on google and see the result The lack

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-20 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: In the spring of 2011, the LinuxCNC Board of Directors was contacted by a law firm representing EMC Corporation (www.emc.com) about the use of EMC and EMC2 to identify the software offered on linuxcnc.org. EMC Corporation

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-19 Thread Dave
Mach3 is relatively safe from attack. If I have learned anything from my years working with lawyers and the law system, it is that the law is applied in shades of gray. Very little is black and white. If Gillette launched a lawsuit against Mach3 with vigor they would likely win. Too often

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-19 Thread Dave
It should be obvious to anyone that PC software and razors are entirely unrelated. Apparently you use only high quality software.. for low quality software it is advisable to keep all sharp and pointy objects (such as razors) away from a user for their own protection ;-) So there you

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-19 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I love the 'LinuxCNC' software! I love the 'LinuxCNC' software! I love the 'LinuxCNC' software! I love the 'LinuxCNC' software! I love the 'LinuxCNC' software! I love the 'LinuxCNC' software! I love the 'LinuxCNC' software! I love the 'LinuxCNC' software! I don't care what we call it - just keep

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-19 Thread Ian W. Wright
On 18/01/2012 16:28, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: It's no good, we'd just get sued by the Large Magellanic Cloud… Who are they going to sue in an open source project - the developers ( who are they? anyone who has ever mage any alteration to the software? ), everyone who usues the software? or

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-19 Thread Alan Condit
I am not fond of the LinuxCNC name. I like Andy Pugh have had fond hopes of someday getting EMC2 to run on MacOS (unix instead of Linux). It seems to me unlikely that the trademark for EMC should have ever been granted absent a qualification based on font expression, color etc. However,

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-19 Thread Peter C. Wallace
-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller On 18/01/2012 16:28, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: It's no good, we'd just get sued by the Large Magellanic Cloud… Who are they going to sue in an open source project - the developers ( who are they? anyone who has ever mage any

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-19 Thread dave
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:57:31 -0800 Alan Condit acon...@ipns.com wrote: I am not fond of the LinuxCNC name. I like Andy Pugh have had fond hopes of someday getting EMC2 to run on MacOS (unix instead of Linux). It seems to me unlikely that the trademark for EMC should have ever been granted

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-19 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 01/19/2012 11:35 AM, dave wrote: The is NOTHING lawyers like better than two parties that have money and want to fight. Dave Exactly! I have told people getting divorced a similar thing - the only ones who ever wins a divorce are the lawyers. This is sort of a hidden blessing anyway -

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-19 Thread Ian W. Wright
-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller On 18/01/2012 16:28, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: It's no good, we'd just get sued by the Large Magellanic Cloud… Who are they going to sue in an open source project

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-19 Thread Jon Elson
Ed wrote: Kent A. Reed wrote: No telling who a Large Magellanic Cloud might sue :-) Peter Wallace With our luck they'll just build a hyperspatial express route through our neighborhood, knowing that actions speak louder than words. Nah, they'd just lob a supernova into

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Lester Caine
Chris Radek wrote: As a result, it was necessary to choose a new name for the software. Of the options the board considered, there was consensus that LinuxCNC is the best option, as this has been our website's name for years. This does seem to be something of a mouthful ... Did nobody

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Caroline
I would have expected some public discussion about new names etc before a final decision From when I went to get a trade mark it only covers an area this allows multiple entities to own the same letters. Dave Caroline On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.01.12 16:39, Geoff wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:16:13 pm Chris Radek wrote: In the spring of 2011, the LinuxCNC Board of Directors was contacted by a law firm representing EMC Corporation (www.emc.com) about the use of EMC and EMC2 to identify the software offered on linuxcnc.org.

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.01.12 09:06, Dave Caroline wrote: I would have expected some public discussion about new names etc before a final decision Yes, but it was probably frustrating enough to haggle with the litigious lot, without becoming the meat in a sandwich. After we've all blown off steam, I kinda figure

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/17/2012 09:16 PM, Chris Radek wrote: In the spring of 2011, the LinuxCNC Board of Directors was contacted by a law firm representing EMC Corporation (www.emc.com) about the use of EMC and EMC2 to identify the software offered on linuxcnc.org. EMC Corporation has registered various

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:02:01 AM Lester Caine did opine: Chris Radek wrote: As a result, it was necessary to choose a new name for the software. Of the options the board considered, there was consensus that LinuxCNC is the best option, as this has been our website's name for

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Matt Shaver
I just wanted to say that I agree with this decision! EMC was always too short, and such a common letter combination to make an effective search term on the internet. LinuxCNC is also much more descriptive of the software's purpose as Chris' message said. It's sort of a milestone for this project

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On Jan 18, 2012, at 08:02 , gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:02:01 AM Lester Caine did opine: Did nobody consider simply 'LMC' Linux Machine Controller ... Humm, that does have a certain poetic sound to it. It's no good, we'd just get sued by the Large Magellanic Cloud…

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:38:39 AM Sebastian Kuzminsky did opine: On Jan 18, 2012, at 08:02 , gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:02:01 AM Lester Caine did opine: Did nobody consider simply 'LMC' Linux Machine Controller ... Humm, that does have a certain

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
In all seriousness, I'm perfectly happy with the Board's decision to rename the project to LinuxCNC. It's a good name, and we've already been using it in our web presence, which is perhaps the most important moniker. Is there a shorter version of our new name that we can use in parallel with

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Roland Jollivet
On 18 January 2012 18:55, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: In all seriousness, I'm perfectly happy with the Board's decision to rename the project to LinuxCNC. It's a good name, and we've already been using it in our web presence, which is perhaps the most important moniker. Is

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 January 2012 02:16, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: LinuxCNC is the best option, as this has been our website's name for years. Ah well, I was probably never going to get it to compile on MacOS anyway…. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Jon Elson
Matt Shaver wrote: I just wanted to say that I agree with this decision! EMC was always too short, and such a common letter combination to make an effective search term on the internet. Well, I don't fully agree, but ElectroMagnetic Compatibility is another EMC that causes confusion in the

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Jack Coats
Open Machine Controller or OpenCNC would have been better name. Still holding out hope that the software could be supported on different platforms. For now, LinuxCNC is the monniker. At least it isn't GNUCNC -- Keep

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/18/2012 2:39 PM, Jack Coats wrote: Open Machine Controller or OpenCNC would have been better name. Still holding out hope that the software could be supported on different platforms. For now, LinuxCNC is the monniker. At least it isn't GNUCNC Or, in classic Unix fashion, YACNC. But

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Joni
OpenCNC already exists. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: Open Machine Controller or OpenCNC would have been better name. Still holding out hope that the software could be supported on different platforms. For now, LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread dave
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:46:01 -0500 Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com wrote: On 1/18/2012 2:39 PM, Jack Coats wrote: Open Machine Controller or OpenCNC would have been better name. Still holding out hope that the software could be supported on different platforms. For now, LinuxCNC is the

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/18 Alex Joni alex.j...@robcon.ro: OpenCNC already exists. Yes, here is something about it: http://www.mdsi2.com/solutions/cnc_controls/ BTW do I understand correctly that emc.com guys do not have a problem with the official name - Enhanced Machine Controller? If that is true then I

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Dave
Seeing that EMC2 has been stung by the EMC Corporation for trademark infringment, why isn't Gillette pursuing Mach3 CNC ??? Or is it only a matter of time? On 1/18/2012 3:05 PM, dave wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:46:01 -0500 Kent A. Reedknbr...@erols.com wrote: On 1/18/2012 2:39

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
I know it's tongue-in-cheek, but since several people have mentioned this I thought I'd reply. EMC corp has a trademark in a very related field. I don't recall the specific area, but it had to do with computer hardware and a particular area of computer software (backup most likely). Though

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Payson
FWIW, Mach3 is relatively safe from attack. Trademarks apply to a particular domain only, and razor blades and software are quite different domain. In addition, there must be reasonable reason to believe that the consumer would be confused by the use of the term, and it is highly unlikely that

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Panetta(The Spam Catcher)
What exactly did they copyright? EMC? or /Enhanced Machine Controller/? EMC is just an acronym - can they actually claim an acronym? As someone else said - their lawyers are trying to justify their jobs. What about all of the - Electric Membership Corporations - EMC? I belong to and get my power

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Payson
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Dave Panetta(The Spam Catcher) thespamcatc...@bellsouth.net wrote: What exactly did they copyright? EMC? or /Enhanced Machine Controller/? EMC is just an acronym - can they actually claim an acronym? As someone else said - their lawyers are trying to justify

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
Padnos [mailto:spad...@sover.net] Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 11:57 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller I know it's tongue-in-cheek, but since several people have mentioned this I thought I'd reply

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Rafael Skodlar
On 01/18/2012 07:30 AM, Matt Shaver wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:50:41 +1100 Erik Christiansendva...@internode.on.net wrote: I'm only having trouble pretending that their case has any legitimacy. It's not legitimate. Unfortunately, many recent activities originating in the U.S. are

[Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Chris Radek
In the spring of 2011, the LinuxCNC Board of Directors was contacted by a law firm representing EMC Corporation (www.emc.com) about the use of EMC and EMC2 to identify the software offered on linuxcnc.org. EMC Corporation has registered various trademarks relating to EMC and EMC^2 (EMC with

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/17/2012 9:16 PM, Chris Radek wrote: In the spring of 2011, the LinuxCNC Board of Directors was contacted by a law firm representing EMC Corporation (www.emc.com) about the use of EMC and EMC2 to identify the software offered on linuxcnc.org. EMC Corporation has registered various

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: In the spring of 2011, the LinuxCNC Board of Directors was contacted by a law firm representing EMC Corporation (www.emc.com) about the use of EMC and EMC2 to identify the software offered on linuxcnc.org. EMC Corporation has registered various trademarks relating to EMC and

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Jeff Epler
We have registered new IRC channels on freenode that reflect the new project name. Please join us on #linuxcnc or #linuxcnc-devel. For the time being, users joining the old channels will be forwarded, but this may not be possible indefinitely. Jeff

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/17/2012 10:20 PM, Jeff Epler wrote: We have registered new IRC channels on freenode that reflect the new project name. Please join us on #linuxcnc or #linuxcnc-devel. For the time being, users joining the old channels will be forwarded, but this may not be possible indefinitely. Jeff

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Jack Coats
IMHO, we need to keep references to EMC and EMC2 on the web site as 'historical artifacts', and also reference the NIST project that started the initial 'Enhanced Machine Controller' project and named it. Like in http://www.isd.mel.nist.gov/projects/rcslib/emc_links.html It will also allow links

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 17.01.12 21:31, Jack Coats wrote: IMHO, we need to keep references to EMC and EMC2 on the web site as 'historical artifacts', and also reference the NIST project that started the initial 'Enhanced Machine Controller' project and named it. Like in 

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Jack Coats
I wonder when EMC, Inc was incorporated and initially copywrited EMC and EMC^2 (superscript that is). ... I need to get over it and just go along, but I hate feeling like we are being muscled out by the force of money/clout. ... That is probably my hangup. I'd feel much better if EMC would offer

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Rafael Skodlar
On 01/17/2012 08:12 PM, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 17.01.12 21:31, Jack Coats wrote: IMHO, we need to keep references to EMC and EMC2 on the web site as 'historical artifacts', and also reference the NIST project that started the initial 'Enhanced Machine Controller' project and named it.

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Geoff
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:16:13 pm Chris Radek wrote: In the spring of 2011, the LinuxCNC Board of Directors was contacted by a law firm representing EMC Corporation (www.emc.com) about the use of EMC and EMC2 to identify the software offered on linuxcnc.org. EMC Corporation has registered

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Karl Cunningham
On 01/17/2012 07:31 PM, Jack Coats wrote: IMHO, we need to keep references to EMC and EMC2 on the web site as 'historical artifacts', and also reference the NIST project that started the initial 'Enhanced Machine Controller' project and named it. Like in

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
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