Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-14 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Hello again guys, Well, the situation is this: The machine always turns on with all it's functions working properly, with the exception of the screen which sometimes works and sometimes does not (when it fails sometimes there's no signal at all on the LCD monitor, and sometimes there are white

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-09 Thread gene heskett
On 12/9/23 10:19, John Figie wrote: Gene Yes I understand the catastrophic failure mode of Buck converters. But what is BBLB? Built By Lowest Bidder, John. Slanguage I assumed everybody understood. ;o)> I still have one or two of those, not in service except as proof of concept maybe,

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-09 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
I'm starting to think that maybe the original PSU had its alarm state triggered by an external fault, maybe on the video card. I'm just guessing because the manuals only say that the PSU has an external alarm contact that will turn off the PSU in case the contact is closed, but It doesn't say what

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-09 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Hello guys again Just a little update, we fed all the voltages through some test pins on the main board (not using the original PSU connector yet) and the machine started up but with no video signal. The LCD monitor lights up but no signal on the screen. The video board is showing 4.92 volts on

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-09 Thread John Figie
Gene Yes I understand the catastrophic failure mode of Buck converters. But what is BBLB? John Figie On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 7:39 AM gene heskett wrote: > On 12/9/23 06:13, andy pugh wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 at 16:08, Leonardo Marsaglia > wrote: > >> > >> Just a little update. We're going

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-09 Thread gene heskett
On 12/9/23 06:13, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 at 16:08, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Just a little update. We're going to try and feed all the voltages on the main board of the control (+5V, +15V, -15V, and 24V) with normal switching PSUs Depending on the current requirements on each

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-09 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 at 16:08, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > > Just a little update. We're going to try and feed all the voltages on the > main board of the control (+5V, +15V, -15V, and 24V) with normal switching > PSUs Depending on the current requirements on each channel you might want to look at

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-06 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Just a little update. We're going to try and feed all the voltages on the main board of the control (+5V, +15V, -15V, and 24V) with normal switching PSUs and activate the EN signal that the old PSU fed to the control and that should do the trick. Anyway if this works, I'll be working on a LCNC

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-06 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
> > I missed the beginning of this. What kind a machine is this? > Hi Chris, since the original topic was for the power supply I didn't mention any details about the machine. This is a Daewoo Puma 12L turning center with a Fanuc OT-C control. The machine is from 1996. As for the power supply,

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/5/23 11:26, Todd Zuercher wrote: I think all Fanuc red cap encoders are digital. The question marks are if the coms signal is differential quadrature or serial and if serial what format, and what the commutation tracks/signals are or if they are rolled into the absolute encoder serial

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread Chris Albertson
I missed the beginning of this. What kind a machine is this? As for the power supply, they are very hard to debug if you don’t have a schematic. But what about replacing it entirely? Good motors are always expensive. But encoders have gotten cheap and easy to use. The last one I bout

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
2031 > > -Original Message- > From: gene heskett > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2023 11:52 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950 > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. > > On 12/5/23

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread Todd Zuercher
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Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread Todd Zuercher
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Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread John Dammeyer
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/48987-trying-to-build-find-a-stmbl > -Original Message- > From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com] > Sent: December 5, 2023 6:02 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread John Dammeyer
to have a spare STMBL they could let go if indeed it would solve your problem.. John > -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > Sent: December 5, 2023 7:44 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu po

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread gene heskett
On 12/5/23 11:18, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Sorry I forgot to attach the picture. I'd like to see that with the pink cover carefully removed. El mar, 5 dic 2023 a las 13:13, Leonardo Marsaglia () escribió: Can you identify the encoder? If it is Aa64 then the Fanuc hostmot2 component ought

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread gene heskett
On 12/5/23 08:17, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Hello guys, and thanks for all the replies! Well, we swapped the majority of the capacitors on the board and we still get the alarm on the PSU. I'm almost inclined to consider this a LCNC project and start doing the conversion. One thing I'm

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 at 16:19, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > > Sorry I forgot to attach the picture. I am beyond the bounds of my knowledge in this area now. PCW (or possibly Rene) might know more. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
> > Can you identify the encoder? If it is Aa64 then the Fanuc hostmot2 > component ought to work. > > https://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/man/man9/hostmot2.9.html#Fanuc%20encoder > (Others might too) > Hi Andy, the encoder is the one on the picture I'm attaching now. The model number is *αI64

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 at 13:22, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > I'm attaching a picture of the X axis motor so you can see. I guess it > should be possible to control it, but I don't really know how the encoder > works. I know there's a Hostmot encoder module for Fanuc but I don't know > anything about

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread gene heskett
On 12/5/23 08:17, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Hello guys, and thanks for all the replies! Well, we swapped the majority of the capacitors on the board and we still get the alarm on the PSU. I'm almost inclined to consider this a LCNC project and start doing the conversion. One thing I'm

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Well, from what I can see on Granite Devices website, their Argon servo drives are now discontinued so that eliminates one big possibility for replacing the fanuc drives and keep the motors. I don't know if Pico systems or MESA has a drive for the power these motors require. Although I'm not going

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-03 Thread gene heskett
On 12/3/23 04:42, Roland Jollivet wrote: If you can obtain/borrow any thermal imaging device, then run with the PSU with covers off and check every 5min. You should identify a cap-thermal problem. For that, a $500 ir imager would be nice, but a $29 ir thermometer from the local lumber yard can

[Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-03 Thread Roland Jollivet
If you can obtain/borrow any thermal imaging device, then run with the PSU with covers off and check every 5min. You should identify a cap-thermal problem. On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 at 21:14, John Dammeyer wrote: > > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > > > > If it is a simple

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-02 Thread gene heskett
On 12/2/23 14:12, John Dammeyer wrote: From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] If it is a simple linear power supply, yes they are very easy to debug and repair, LIkey it is the caps. But switching power supplies are much harder to debug, You can guess it might be the same

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-02 Thread gene heskett
USD. -Original Message- From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com] Sent: December 2, 2023 7:58 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950 Hello everybody, I hope you're all doing well! Sorry for the OT but I

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-02 Thread gene heskett
On 12/2/23 10:58, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Notes from a CET, Leonardo. Bordeerline semi might be suspect but very rarely take two hows to show a problem, Usually under 10 minutes Getting closer to the top of the list it might be a carbon composition resister, look for discolored paint on

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-02 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > > If it is a simple linear power supply, yes they are very easy to debug and > repair, LIkey it is the caps. > > But switching power supplies are much harder to debug, You can guess it > might be the same issue but these have dozens

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-02 Thread Chris Albertson
. > > John > >> -Original Message- >> From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com] >> Sent: December 2, 2023 7:58 AM >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >> Subject: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950 >> &

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-02 Thread John Dammeyer
been running perfectly now a year later. John > -Original Message- > From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com] > Sent: December 2, 2023 7:58 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950 > &g

[Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-02 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Hello everybody, I hope you're all doing well! Sorry for the OT but I think this is a good place to ask for what I intend to do. One of our lathes has this Fanuc OT-C with this a16b-1212-0950 power supply which is now failing. I can only use the lathe a couple of hours before the control stops