Re: [Emc-users] "Probe triggered during jog"

2016-09-07 Thread John Kasunich
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016, at 02:43 AM, Danny Miller wrote: > I have a wireless toolsetting probe here. It's nice, but it's naturally > sensitive. Even when you're not using it, very easy to trip, and > LinuxCNC generates a "Probe triggering during jog" error. Just bump the > table. The probe

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout

2016-09-07 Thread Ron Ginger
> Yes and no. No linkage between that pinout, and what pin this is on the > db25 connector. And its apparently a near 100% mis-match between a > 5i25's useage of the pins and whatever the hell mach3 uses. So unless > that is available in the password locked .pdf or .doc files, these cards > are

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Here it is, even has the pinout for the pendant/remote port. The LED displays are available direct from some places in China. Have not found anyone importing them to the USA. http://www.savebase.com/infobase/downloads/breakout_board_stepper_driver/user_manual_5_axis_breakout_board.pdf

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Here it is, even has the pinout for the pendant/remote port. The LED displays are available direct from some places in China. Have not found anyone importing them to the USA. http://www.savebase.com/infobase/downloads/breakout_board_stepper_driver/user_manual_5_axis_breakout_board.pdf

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Greg Bentzinger
Gene; See the attached pdf I made. This is the pinouts as I read them from the ebay display images. It doesn't answer everything and I think you will want to use the B axis for spindle control since this BoB only provides for On/Off but no direction. Another oddity if I read things correctly

Re: [Emc-users] "Probe triggered during jog"

2016-09-07 Thread Bruce Layne
On 09/07/2016 10:35 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > I'm still trying to figure out how they attach the ceramic > rod to the threaded end. I'd like to shorten my probe by > 50mm or so. If it is just epoxied in, I might try heating > it and see if it will come out. > I find that it's the easiest thing in

Re: [Emc-users] "Probe triggered during jog"

2016-09-07 Thread Danny Miller
Well, how do I modify it? Like I say, pressing Probe Z momentarily starts an ngc. My best guess is the probe input needs to AND with "isAuto", does that sound right? I don't think I saw the probe trip during g-code running (which would be weird if it's to protect the probe). Danny On

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016, Gene Heskett wrote: > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:03:23 -0400 > From: Gene Heskett > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject:

Re: [Emc-users] "Probe triggered during jog"

2016-09-07 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 7 Sep 2016, at 17:05, Danny Miller wrote: > > Well, how do I modify it? Like In the way I described. With links to the relevant manual pages. (And do you know how much fun that was on a small screen iPhone?)

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Ralph Stirling
The 5i25 is completely flexible, more so than a standard parallel port, as every pin from 1-17 can be input or output. If none of the standard bitfiles covers your pinout need, Peter Wallace or John Thornton can easily generate one for you that does. It isn't at all impossible to set up to

Re: [Emc-users] "Probe triggered during jog"

2016-09-07 Thread Sarah Armstrong
your using Cheap Probes John ? last one i bought cost me $3,500 after some idiot did exactly that . i added some extra logic and a external keyswitch , to stop it happening On 7 September 2016 at 13:52, John Kasunich wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2016, at 02:43 AM,

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout

2016-09-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
I designed a 3D printed case for it, with a solid lid and one with slots so the screw terminals can be turned with the lid on. The solid lid would be for a permanent install where you don't want easy access for people to fiddle with it. Mounting tabs would be easy to add with any 3D software

Re: [Emc-users] "Probe triggered during jog"

2016-09-07 Thread John Thornton
I can't even imagine trying to do that on an iphone... you are the man Andy! JT On 9/7/2016 10:42 AM, Andy Pugh wrote: > >> On 7 Sep 2016, at 17:05, Danny Miller wrote: >> >> Well, how do I modify it? Like > In the way I described. With links to the relevant manual pages.

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Anything you can't move with programming, make an adapter cable to physically re-wire connections. From: Ralph Stirling To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 7:32 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
If this shows up a bunch of times, it's Yahoo Mail's fault. Here it is, even has the pinout for the pendant/remote port. The LED displays are available direct from some places in China. Have not found anyoi

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Lester Caine
On 07/09/16 06:44, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 07 September 2016 01:05:39 Chris Kelley wrote: > >> > What do you need to know about it? The last eBay link you posted has a >> > picture that shows the pinout. > Yes and no. No linkage between that pinout, and what pin this is on the > db25

Re: [Emc-users] snagged touch probe on eBay - anybody know how to interface ?

2016-09-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/07/2016 01:12 PM, Florian Rist wrote: > Hi Jon, > thanks for the update on your experiments, very interesting. > >> I still need to build a better IR transmitter and receiver >> so that can be more than a few inches from the probe. > Regarding the receiver I have not built anything yet, but

Re: [Emc-users] "Probe triggered during jog"

2016-09-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/07/2016 02:25 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 7 September 2016 at 20:11, Jon Elson wrote: >> The stylus will only cost $75 or so > Maybe less than that. Is it Renishaw style? > http://www.renishaw.com/shop/stylihome.aspx > > No, of course not! Blum has their own style for

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 09/06/2016 11:29 PM, Danny Miller wrote: On 9/7/2016 12:53 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 07 September 2016 01:41:24 Dave Caroline wrote: That looks like a board I would not recommend look close to the white sockets near the axis outputs, it has series resistors for the driver

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Ralph Stirling
Yes, Mesa has been kind enough to open-source all the vhdl for their cards. I learned vhdl from reading Peter's excellent logic. You can look all the documentation up on Mesa's site and in the LinuxCNC source tree. You have to install the Xilinx webpack, but you don't have to use the Xilinx gui

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Ralph Stirling
Your 5i25 can talk to *anything* that expects a standard parallel port, plus things that wouldn't talk to a standard parallel port, like something that needed 17 outputs and no inputs. -- Ralph From: Gene Heskett [ghesk...@shentel.net] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [Emc-users] "Probe triggered during jog"

2016-09-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/07/2016 07:52 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > > > You wouldn't think that if you ever ran the business end of a $500 > probe into the side of a vise while jogging > > I am just setting up a $4000 Blum TC50 probe that I was incredibly lucky to snag on eBay. I'm going to hook up a watchdog to

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 September 2016 at 19:53, Ralph Stirling wrote: > Your 5i25 can talk to *anything* that expects a standard parallel > port, plus things that wouldn't talk to a standard parallel port, > like something that needed 17 outputs and no inputs. 34 outputs. Don't

Re: [Emc-users] "Probe triggered during jog"

2016-09-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 September 2016 at 20:11, Jon Elson wrote: > The stylus will only cost $75 or so Maybe less than that. Is it Renishaw style? http://www.renishaw.com/shop/stylihome.aspx I think that they start at about £25. And there are always many on eBay. -- atp "A motorcycle

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 September 2016 09:32:35 Ralph Stirling wrote: > The 5i25 is completely flexible, more so than a standard parallel > port, as every pin from 1-17 can be input or output. Unforch, these cards all assume a std parport, so the card is hardwired accordingly. > If none of the >

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 September 2016 10:28:40 Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Tue, 6 Sep 2016, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:03:23 -0400 > > From: Gene Heskett > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To:

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 September 2016 13:50:44 John Kasunich wrote: > Chris Albertson [albertson.ch...@gmail.com] wrote: > > The other question: So we get the source code VHDL files for the > > firmware inside this card? This means we could use any FPGA card or > > even build one from a FPGA chip > >

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 September 2016 at 17:47, Chris Albertson wrote: > I have not yet bought a 5i25 card. So my question might be answered in > whatever documentation comes with it. I don't know if they come with any documentation. Mine never have. Just google for "5i25man" and you

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 September 2016 14:04:55 dan...@austin.rr.com wrote: > Why the 5i25? > > I have the 7i92, I like the ethernet. It allows me to put the card in > the control box without a mass of critical cabling between the PC and > the drives. Ethernet doesn't have much for length limitations.

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Chris Albertson
I have not yet bought a 5i25 card. So my question might be answered in whatever documentation comes with it. Can this card be used as a general purpose FPGA development card? Is the process well documented some place? If so then this card can be used for almost any purpose, for example I

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Danny Miller
On 9/7/2016 12:53 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 07 September 2016 01:41:24 Dave Caroline wrote: > >> That looks like a board I would not recommend look close to the white >> sockets near the axis outputs, it has series resistors for the driver >> optos, these of course are in the driver

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread John Kasunich
Chris Albertson [albertson.ch...@gmail.com] wrote: > > The other question: So we get the source code VHDL files for the firmware > inside this card? This means we could use any FPGA card or even build one > from a FPGA chip > Ralph Stirling replied: > > Yes, Mesa has been kind enough to

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread dannym
Why the 5i25? I have the 7i92, I like the ethernet. It allows me to put the card in the control box without a mass of critical cabling between the PC and the drives. Ethernet doesn't have much for length limitations. Danny Chris Albertson wrote: > I have

Re: [Emc-users] snagged touch probe on eBay - anybody know how to interface ?

2016-09-07 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Jon, thanks for the update on your experiments, very interesting. > I still need to build a better IR transmitter and receiver > so that can be more than a few inches from the probe. Regarding the receiver I have not built anything yet, but when I was looking for information on this subject

[Emc-users] "Probe triggered during jog"

2016-09-07 Thread Danny Miller
I have a wireless toolsetting probe here. It's nice, but it's naturally sensitive. Even when you're not using it, very easy to trip, and LinuxCNC generates a "Probe triggering during jog" error. Just bump the table. The probe doesn't even have a physical hard switch, just the plate. Hmm.

Re: [Emc-users] "Probe triggered during jog"

2016-09-07 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 7 Sep 2016, at 09:43, Danny Miller wrote: > > Hmm. I don't know why it was coded to do this, but it's a problem. > Basically it should be ignoring Probe-in if it's not probing. I think it is to save the probe if you leave it in the spindle by accident and press