Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[Timothy Conway Murray]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
Hi, Christina,

Johannes’ post helped me discover that your post too was cycled into my 
‘clutter’ by dear Microsoft.  Yeah, one of the coolest experiments you launched 
was letting non-English speakers publish in their home languages – I remember 
Spanish and French, no?One of the earliest challenges of the “universal” 
internet was its exclusion of non-English speakers (still an issue of course – 
and we still encourage folks to write in their home languages when helpful to 
them).  Of course, you also worked so hard to bring –empyre- off the net, via 
the Documenta project, and the cool scholarships you arranged at Anderson Ranch 
in Colorado.  It’s great that we’ve all been able to extend this “outreach” in 
gatherings at ISEA, CAA, etc., and it would be great if our subscribers were to 
host similar cocktail meetings or break out sessions in their orbits.  The 
online  –empyre- archive, which continues to make available all posts on 
–empyre-, is an incredible resource that would be great to promote even for 
those who don’t have the energy to be active participants in our community.  
We, of course, also remain grateful to the institutional hosts, University of 
New South Wales and Cornell University, that continue to support –empyre- with 
server and programming assistance.

Hope you are enjoying the likely arrival of spring in California.

Cheers,

Tim

Timothy Murray
Director, Cornell Council for the Arts and Curator, CCA Biennial
http://cca.cornell.edu
Curator, Rose Goldsen Archive of New Media Art 
http://goldsen.library.cornell.edu 
Professor of Comparative Literature and English
 
114 West Sibley Hall
Cornell University
Ithaca, New York 14853

 

On 2/6/18, 10:38 PM, "empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au on behalf of 
Christina McPhee"  wrote:

--empyre- soft-skinned space--

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Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[Renate Terese Ferro]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
Thanks Patrick and Anna for this list.  Appreciated. 
Renate

Visiting Associate Professor
Director of Undergraduate Studies
Department of Art
Tjaden Hall 306
rfe...@cornell.edu

On 2/6/18, 4:27 PM, "patrick lichty"  wrote:

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
There was also another great one called Mindspace, which was run by early
Cyberspace pontificator Peter Anders.

-Original Message-
From: empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au
[mailto:empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Ana Valdés
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 7:08 PM
To: soft_skinned_space 
    Subject: Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

--empyre- soft-skinned space--

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Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[melinda rackham]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
And I still have a black on black M I N D S P A C E  Tshirt  in my early net 
artifacts archive !

M



Sent from my iPad
> On 7 Feb 2018, at 1:46 am, patrick lichty  wrote:
> 
> --empyre- soft-skinned space--
> There was also another great one called Mindspace, which was run by early
> Cyberspace pontificator Peter Anders.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au
> [mailto:empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Ana Valdés
> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 7:08 PM
> To: soft_skinned_space 
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane
> 
> --empyre- soft-skinned space--
> 
> ___
> empyre forum
> empyre@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au
> http://empyre.library.cornell.edu
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Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[Christina McPhee]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Thanks, Renate, for the comments around the aesthetics of early days
-empyre- and the quote in which I compare -empyre- to an Ant Farm
inflatable!

When I started moderating in 2002,  I sometimes posted as Christina McPhee
and sometimes as naxsmash-- a made-up portmanteau of 'birthing' and
'smashing' . Neither name indexed a definite identity. That seemed to be
the disorder of the day: you could scatter your texts to many eyes and ears
out of reach of one's own sense of place --- I felt unbound by my gender or
age or other markers. When the Documenta curator Georg Schollhamer
contacted me to invite -empyre- to Documenta 12 Magazine project in 2006,
he asked to meet up with me at the Sydney Biennial. On the phone, I madly
searched and stumbled for an answer, wondering, OMG, how am i going to
afford to go to Sydney to meet Georg and discuss this wonderful invite?
Quickly I recovered and confessed that I was not Australian... this is the
kind of delightful mistake possible in those days. Melinda Rackham had been
so kind to invite me into the 'soft-skinned space' to moderate in 2002 when
her doctoral writing was very pressing. I stayed on and learned from
everyone for the next six years. It was the best education one could
possibly imagine, boot-strapped by the constant demand of coming up with
new topics and generating new convos with such diverse artists, scientists,
poets, writers of all kinds. They inadvertently generated my crash-course
education in Franz Fanon, Julia Kristeva, Anthropophagia and Tropicalia,
Edouard Glissante, Australian/NZ Cyberfeminism. I read like mad. I
encouraged posts in languages other than English whenever the writer found
that her ideas might need to flow from a non-English space-- then
translated as best i could or found translators of the human variety to
help out. We had a freewheeling time of it. "New Media" was in its heyday.
I always hoped that the archive would help historians with bits and sparks
to illuminate a fascinating transitional period... an Arcades project...

Christina




On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 9:01 PM, Theresa Ramseyer  wrote:

> --empyre- soft-skinned space--
> Evening,
>
> My computer-internet connection is still dial-up. It is unusable for
> the moment, for various reasons. My phone is now my main connection,
> but I can't get everything. Instagram, for example, is always a blank
> page. Many times I'll click on a link and get nowhere.
>
>
> I prefer Empyre as a listserve. I have gone back through previous
> discussions and looked up artists, followed threads and ideas when I
> had time. I've gone deeper; the list moves fast for me.
>
>
> It's much easier to find a post on gmail or yahoo than to dig through
> Facebook.
>
>
> I know Empyre has a Facebook presence, and Facebook is easy to reach
> on my phone. But besides the searching difficulties, Facebook changes
> their algorithims so often that I keep lists of my "must read" pages
> and communities. It's annoying, to say the least.
>
> Theresa Ramseyer
> ___
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> empyre@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au
> http://empyre.library.cornell.edu
>
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Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[patrick lichty]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
There was also another great one called Mindspace, which was run by early
Cyberspace pontificator Peter Anders.

-Original Message-
From: empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au
[mailto:empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Ana Valdés
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 7:08 PM
To: soft_skinned_space 
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

--empyre- soft-skinned space--

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Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[Ana Valdés]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--And I miss the role of Howard Rheingold the creator among others of Wired
and the Well and the author of the book Virtual Community. He built the
discussions forum Electric Minds a great gathering of scholars and
activists.
I interviewed him in Palo Alto in the 90 ties for my book about the
Internet and he was very interesting and fun to listen to. He was a true
believer on virtual communication.
Ana

tis 6 feb. 2018 kl. 11:58 skrev patrick lichty :

> --empyre- soft-skinned space--
> Just very quickly, as I'm prepping for class here in the UAE, and also
> sorry
> fvor being so offline.
> In this conversation, I miss Rhizome's online community, as it made so many
> careers, including mine.
> But I want to give a minor tally of communities Ihave been part of as a
> point of conversation.
>
> The Well
> Spectre
> Nettime
> Senselab Basecamp
> Netbehaviour
> Empyre
> Fibrecultture
> Odyssey
> Rhizome Raw
> The Thing
> 7-11
> And a few more.
> These are esseantial to our community, culture, and history.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au
> [mailto:empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Renate
> Terese Ferro
> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:15 AM
> To: soft_skinned_space 
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane
>
> --empyre- soft-skinned space-- Hey Ricardo.
> So glad you mentioned nettime.org and thank you for posting this post from
> February 26th 1998 nearly twenty years ago.  Talking about history I have
> enlisted twelve of my Introduction to Digital Media students to join us
> this
> month on –empyre-.  A few every week will post tidbits of history and facts
> about online communities and forums.  I thought it would be great to get
> young artists and thinkers involved this month so that they can get a sense
> of the long history but also to share with us their own insights about how
> online and internet based platforms are incredibly networked.  I will be
> introducing them tomorrow.  I am hoping that some of their posts will
> prompt
> our subscribers to post additional thoughts and recollections.
> Best and thanks.  Renate
>
> Hola Tod@xs,
>
>
> I do not remember when I was joined -empyre- but it is a part, at least for
> me, of a history and presence of list-servs that have been extremely
> important for the gestures and conceptual disturbances that I have
> participated in. List-servs are an e-form that I continue to see as a core
> condition for the performative matrix for all the collaborations I have
> been
> involved in the past, now and ones to come.
>
>
> As I remember the first list-servs I was a part of were based at thing.net
> in the 90's. Probably the most well known list that echoes the deep model
> of -empryre- was nettime.org.
>
>
> Here is my first call to join a list-serv back in 1998 (riding the memory
> lane):
>
>
>   *   To: nettime-l {AT} Desk.nl
>   *   Subject:  infowar thread on www.thing.net
>   *   From: ricardo dominguez 
>   *   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:48:47 -0800
>   *   Sender: owner-nettime-l {AT} basis.Desk.nl
>
> 
>
> InfoWar
>
> "War in our current era is one of reduced tangibility and soft power."
> --Joseph Nye.
>
> "Centralize strategically, but decentralize tactically."
> --Mao
>
> This is an invitation to join and participate on the InfoWar thread
> moderated by Ricardo Dominguez on the new Thing bbs system at:
>
> http://www.thing.net
>
> starting on March 5, 1998.
>
> The InfoWar thread will consider how soft power has redefined command,
> control, intelligence and resistance.
>
> InfoWar tactics are now moving beyond the theoretical questions about the
> rise of "network power" and the end of hierarchies.
> Instead, Military and Intelligence groups are now experimenting with
> pragmatic hybrid structures that can retain control over networks, while
> allowing network autonomy to expand within a specific types of command
> structures.
> In order to contain the rising soft power of small groups that can organize
> themselves "into sprawling networks" that can threaten hard power
> structures.
>
> Military and Intelligence communities since the late 80's have mapped 5
> distinct possible structures for understanding
> InfoWar:
>
> 1)A Game, chess or Go.
>   Go has displaced chess as the dominant tactical game
>   metaphor.
>
> 2)The Wild West.
>   Each town makes its own laws and out on the
>   range its everyone for them

Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[patrick lichty]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
Just very quickly, as I'm prepping for class here in the UAE, and also sorry 
fvor being so offline.
In this conversation, I miss Rhizome's online community, as it made so many 
careers, including mine.
But I want to give a minor tally of communities Ihave been part of as a 
point of conversation.

The Well
Spectre
Nettime
Senselab Basecamp
Netbehaviour
Empyre
Fibrecultture
Odyssey
Rhizome Raw
The Thing
7-11
And a few more.
These are esseantial to our community, culture, and history.

-Original Message-
From: empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au 
[mailto:empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Renate 
Terese Ferro
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:15 AM
To: soft_skinned_space 
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Hey Ricardo.
So glad you mentioned nettime.org and thank you for posting this post from 
February 26th 1998 nearly twenty years ago.  Talking about history I have 
enlisted twelve of my Introduction to Digital Media students to join us this 
month on –empyre-.  A few every week will post tidbits of history and facts 
about online communities and forums.  I thought it would be great to get 
young artists and thinkers involved this month so that they can get a sense 
of the long history but also to share with us their own insights about how 
online and internet based platforms are incredibly networked.  I will be 
introducing them tomorrow.  I am hoping that some of their posts will prompt 
our subscribers to post additional thoughts and recollections.
Best and thanks.  Renate

Hola Tod@xs,


I do not remember when I was joined -empyre- but it is a part, at least for 
me, of a history and presence of list-servs that have been extremely 
important for the gestures and conceptual disturbances that I have 
participated in. List-servs are an e-form that I continue to see as a core 
condition for the performative matrix for all the collaborations I have been 
involved in the past, now and ones to come.


As I remember the first list-servs I was a part of were based at thing.net 
in the 90's. Probably the most well known list that echoes the deep model 
of -empryre- was nettime.org.


Here is my first call to join a list-serv back in 1998 (riding the memory 
lane):


  *   To: nettime-l {AT} Desk.nl
  *   Subject:  infowar thread on www.thing.net
  *   From: ricardo dominguez 
  *   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:48:47 -0800
  *   Sender: owner-nettime-l {AT} basis.Desk.nl



InfoWar

"War in our current era is one of reduced tangibility and soft power."
--Joseph Nye.

"Centralize strategically, but decentralize tactically."
--Mao

This is an invitation to join and participate on the InfoWar thread 
moderated by Ricardo Dominguez on the new Thing bbs system at:

http://www.thing.net

starting on March 5, 1998.

The InfoWar thread will consider how soft power has redefined command, 
control, intelligence and resistance.

InfoWar tactics are now moving beyond the theoretical questions about the 
rise of "network power" and the end of hierarchies.
Instead, Military and Intelligence groups are now experimenting with 
pragmatic hybrid structures that can retain control over networks, while 
allowing network autonomy to expand within a specific types of command 
structures.
In order to contain the rising soft power of small groups that can organize 
themselves "into sprawling networks" that can threaten hard power 
structures.

Military and Intelligence communities since the late 80's have mapped 5 
distinct possible structures for understanding
InfoWar:

1)A Game, chess or Go.
  Go has displaced chess as the dominant tactical game
  metaphor.

2)The Wild West.
  Each town makes its own laws and out on the
  range its everyone for themselves and God against all.

3)The Castle/Bunker.
  Enclaves built for security with moats, massive walls,
  drawbridges and loyal Knights who roam the outskirts
  of the fiefdom.

4)A Plant.
  A rhizome made of endless root-structures,with
  poly-spacial connectivity, and a multi-layered linkages
  with non-plant agents.

5)The Hive.
  A bio-diverse system,with the ability to
  rapidly mutate, and capable of swarm like activity.


Each map calls for different types of responses to the questions of 
security, aggression, and resistance.
What can we gain from each map as the importance of InfoWar continues to 
grow with greater global access.

The thread will also consider the specific case of the Zapatistas in 
Chiapas, Mexico. They have been able to constrain the Mexican government 
from quickly eliminating the movement since 1994--by building a 
transnational network of resistance. How were a group of Mayan people deep 
in the Lacandona jungle able to become the first, "post modern warriors?"

And fina

Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[Renate Terese Ferro]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
Hey Ricardo. 
So glad you mentioned nettime.org and thank you for posting this post from 
February 26th 1998 nearly twenty years ago.  Talking about history I have 
enlisted twelve of my Introduction to Digital Media students to join us this 
month on –empyre-.  A few every week will post tidbits of history and facts 
about online communities and forums.  I thought it would be great to get young 
artists and thinkers involved this month so that they can get a sense of the 
long history but also to share with us their own insights about how online and 
internet based platforms are incredibly networked.  I will be introducing them 
tomorrow.  I am hoping that some of their posts will prompt our subscribers to 
post additional thoughts and recollections. 
Best and thanks.  Renate

Hola Tod@xs,


I do not remember when I was joined -empyre- but it is a part, at least for me, 
of a history and presence of list-servs that have been extremely important for 
the gestures and conceptual disturbances that I have participated in. 
List-servs are an e-form that I continue to see as a core condition for the 
performative matrix for all the collaborations I have been involved in the 
past, now and ones to come.


As I remember the first list-servs I was a part of were based at thing.net in 
the 90's. Probably the most well known list that echoes the deep model of 
-empryre- was nettime.org.


Here is my first call to join a list-serv back in 1998 (riding the memory lane):


  *   To: nettime-l {AT} Desk.nl
  *   Subject:  infowar thread on www.thing.net
  *   From: ricardo dominguez 
  *   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:48:47 -0800
  *   Sender: owner-nettime-l {AT} basis.Desk.nl



InfoWar

"War in our current era is one of reduced tangibility
and soft power."
--Joseph Nye.

"Centralize strategically, but decentralize tactically."
--Mao

This is an invitation to join and participate on
the InfoWar thread moderated by Ricardo Dominguez
on the new Thing bbs system at:

http://www.thing.net

starting on March 5, 1998.

The InfoWar thread will consider how soft power has
redefined command, control, intelligence and resistance.

InfoWar tactics are now moving beyond the theoretical questions
about the rise of "network power" and the end of hierarchies.
Instead, Military and Intelligence groups are now experimenting
with pragmatic hybrid structures that can retain control
over networks, while allowing network autonomy to
expand within a specific types of command structures.
In order to contain the rising soft power of small groups
that can organize themselves "into sprawling
networks" that can threaten hard power structures.

Military and Intelligence communities since the late 80's
have mapped 5 distinct possible structures for understanding
InfoWar:

1)A Game, chess or Go.
  Go has displaced chess as the dominant tactical game
  metaphor.

2)The Wild West.
  Each town makes its own laws and out on the
  range its everyone for themselves and God against all.

3)The Castle/Bunker.
  Enclaves built for security with moats, massive walls,
  drawbridges and loyal Knights who roam the outskirts
  of the fiefdom.

4)A Plant.
  A rhizome made of endless root-structures,with
  poly-spacial connectivity, and a multi-layered linkages
  with non-plant agents.

5)The Hive.
  A bio-diverse system,with the ability to
  rapidly mutate, and capable of swarm like activity.


Each map calls for different types of responses to the
questions of security, aggression, and resistance.
What can we gain from each map as the importance
of InfoWar continues to grow with greater global access.

The thread will also consider the specific case
of the Zapatistas in Chiapas, Mexico. They have
been able to constrain the Mexican government
from quickly eliminating the movement
since 1994--by building a transnational network
of resistance. How were a group of Mayan
people deep in the Lacandona jungle able to
become the first, "post modern warriors?"

And finally, what happens when War Theory
goes beyond InfoWar to overcome the problems
that arise from the "age of networks?"


Suggested reading list -- (not necessary to
have read them to participate):


CopernicusForward C4I for the 21st Century
http://www.stl.nps.navy.mil/c4i/coperfwd.txt

Cyberwar is Coming. Arquilla and Ronfeldt
http://gopher.well.sf.ca.us:70/0/Military/cyberwar

Electronic Warfare
http://www.dreo.dnd.ca/pages/electwf/electwf.htm

Guide to Information Warfare
http://www.uta.fi/~ptmakul/infowar/iw2.html

In Athena's Camp (John Arquilla and David Ronfeldt, editors)
http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR880/contents.html

Information War and Cyberspace Security by RAND
http://www.rand.org/publications/RRR/RRR.fall95.cyber/

Information War Cyberwar Netwar by George J. Stein
http://www.cdsar.af.mil/battle/chp6.html

Information Warfare
http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~sdjames/info_war.html

What is Informa

Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[Ricardo Rene Dominguez]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hola Tod@xs,


I do not remember when I was joined -empyre- but it is a part, at least for me, 
of a history and presence of list-servs that have been extremely important for 
the gestures and conceptual disturbances that I have participated in. 
List-servs are an e-form that I continue to see as a core condition for the 
performative matrix for all the collaborations I have been involved in the 
past, now and ones to come.


As I remember the first list-servs I was a part of were based at thing.net in 
the 90's. Probably the most well known list that echoes the deep model of 
-empryre- was nettime.org.


Here is my first call to join a list-serv back in 1998 (riding the memory lane):


  *   To: nettime-l {AT} Desk.nl
  *   Subject:  infowar thread on www.thing.net
  *   From: ricardo dominguez 
  *   Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:48:47 -0800
  *   Sender: owner-nettime-l {AT} basis.Desk.nl



InfoWar

"War in our current era is one of reduced tangibility
and soft power."
--Joseph Nye.

"Centralize strategically, but decentralize tactically."
--Mao

This is an invitation to join and participate on
the InfoWar thread moderated by Ricardo Dominguez
on the new Thing bbs system at:

http://www.thing.net

starting on March 5, 1998.

The InfoWar thread will consider how soft power has
redefined command, control, intelligence and resistance.

InfoWar tactics are now moving beyond the theoretical questions
about the rise of "network power" and the end of hierarchies.
Instead, Military and Intelligence groups are now experimenting
with pragmatic hybrid structures that can retain control
over networks, while allowing network autonomy to
expand within a specific types of command structures.
In order to contain the rising soft power of small groups
that can organize themselves "into sprawling
networks" that can threaten hard power structures.

Military and Intelligence communities since the late 80's
have mapped 5 distinct possible structures for understanding
InfoWar:

1)A Game, chess or Go.
  Go has displaced chess as the dominant tactical game
  metaphor.

2)The Wild West.
  Each town makes its own laws and out on the
  range its everyone for themselves and God against all.

3)The Castle/Bunker.
  Enclaves built for security with moats, massive walls,
  drawbridges and loyal Knights who roam the outskirts
  of the fiefdom.

4)A Plant.
  A rhizome made of endless root-structures,with
  poly-spacial connectivity, and a multi-layered linkages
  with non-plant agents.

5)The Hive.
  A bio-diverse system,with the ability to
  rapidly mutate, and capable of swarm like activity.


Each map calls for different types of responses to the
questions of security, aggression, and resistance.
What can we gain from each map as the importance
of InfoWar continues to grow with greater global access.

The thread will also consider the specific case
of the Zapatistas in Chiapas, Mexico. They have
been able to constrain the Mexican government
from quickly eliminating the movement
since 1994--by building a transnational network
of resistance. How were a group of Mayan
people deep in the Lacandona jungle able to
become the first, "post modern warriors?"

And finally, what happens when War Theory
goes beyond InfoWar to overcome the problems
that arise from the "age of networks?"


Suggested reading list -- (not necessary to
have read them to participate):


CopernicusForward C4I for the 21st Century
http://www.stl.nps.navy.mil/c4i/coperfwd.txt

Cyberwar is Coming. Arquilla and Ronfeldt
http://gopher.well.sf.ca.us:70/0/Military/cyberwar

Electronic Warfare
http://www.dreo.dnd.ca/pages/electwf/electwf.htm

Guide to Information Warfare
http://www.uta.fi/~ptmakul/infowar/iw2.html

In Athena's Camp (John Arquilla and David Ronfeldt, editors)
http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR880/contents.html

Information War and Cyberspace Security by RAND
http://www.rand.org/publications/RRR/RRR.fall95.cyber/

Information War Cyberwar Netwar by George J. Stein
http://www.cdsar.af.mil/battle/chp6.html

Information Warfare
http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~sdjames/info_war.html

What is Information Warfare?
http://www.ndu.edu/ndu/inss/actpubs/act003/a003cont.html

Zapatistas

The Zapatistas and the Electronic Fabric of Struggle
http://www.eco.utexas.edu/faculty/Cleaver/zaps.html

Netwars
http://www.teleport.com/~jwehling/Netwars.html

Zaptistas in Cyberspace.
http://www.eco.utexas.edu:80/Homepages/Faculty/Cleaver/zapsincyber.html

Latin America's first post-Communism rebellion
http://mprofaca.cro.net/chiapas.html

Electronic Civil Disobedience
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~sbarnes/ECD/ECD.html




From: empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au 
 on behalf of Renate Terese Ferro 

Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 11:40:11 PM
To: 1067pacificpeo...@gmail.com; soft

Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[Renate Terese Ferro]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
Hello Andrea, 
Absolutely loved your participation a few months ago and so glad you have 
joined in on –empyre-.  Many of us in the North America will be making it to 
Los Angeles to the College Art Association.  If anyone from –empyre- listserv 
will be around we can arrange to meet for drinks.  

We have most definitely touched down in real space—IIt was featured as part of 
documenta 12's Magazine Project conducting three moderated conversations in 
2006 and 2007. In 2008, --empyre- collaborated with the Anderson Art Ranch in 
Snowmass, Colorado to offer two Presidential Full Merit Scholarships to members 
of the -empyre- community. -empyre- also has collaborated with institutions and 
festivals to produce dynamic online forums for physically located events. Some 
of those events have included the Cornerhouse in Manchester, Marcos Weskamp's 
Social Circles visualization slice of the list dynamics. In 2008 -empyre- 
co-hosted a special conference with City Light Books on Paul Virilio in San 
Francisco, In 2009, a special panel on "viral marketing" was hosted by Exit Art 
in New York City. In 2010 a discussion held around The Making Sense Colloquium 
at the Centre Pompidou, Paris was sponsored by -empyre-. And in the fall of 
2011 -empyre- hosted a networking event at the annual ISEA (International 
Symposium for Electronic Arts) in Istanbul, Turkey. We also participated in a 
HASTAC conference in Peru in 2015 and met many –empyreans- on solid ground. 

If you will be in LA between February 18 to 20th let us know. 
Renate

Andrea wrote- 
Hello longtime empyreans,

Being very new to this community since winter 2017 I enjoy that this is an
online listserv because it is devoted to *discussing *things.
Facebook is about to popularize an idea and if you start a Twitter (with
its limit of word count) the only thing it does to get a lot of people
interested in your observation and creates quick connection to others that
are fleeting.

In this short time Im part of the listserv it gave me in contrast to other
online platforms connection to people that are devoted to deeper thinking
and willing to discuss and engage with others people thinking.

I do sense a desire to meet the listserv people in person, so may be in the
near future as an extension of this listserv virtual space there could be
an opportunity to meet as well in a physical space.

looking forward to meet others thinking and being and be part of the
discussions that grows out of this listserv community.

warmly

andrea
—
andrea haenggi
artist, choreographer, dancer, radical care sitter
faculty at Laban/Bartenieff Institute of Movement Studies


Renate Ferro
Visiting Associate Professor
Director of Undergraduate Studies
Department of Art
Tjaden Hall 306
rfe...@cornell.edu

On 2/4/18, 10:54 PM, "empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au on behalf of 
Andrea Haenggi"  wrote:

--empyre- soft-skinned space--

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Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[William Bain]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hello List,
Many hanks to Empyre for all the hard work! Specifically atthe moment thanks to 
Teresa and Therese for the commentson keeping up and options for doing so. I 
think the archivesare a very important tool. The amount of information and 
analysis on culture via the listserv is highly welcome.I've recommended joining 
to colleagues & will go on &
continue to do so.Therese you note how /empyre-
soft-skin space reflects the emergence of technologyand how artists and writers 
use and think through technology./This seems to become truer every day. One of 
my interestsis modernism and Virginia Woolf studies and I was gldto see Google 
Doodles celebrating Woolf's 136th birthday.A first for 2018 as her writings 
continue to be a great
source of inspiration.Good to count her and many other earier writers among 
oure-poets ; )  Thanks and best wishes to all, William
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Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[Andrea Haenggi]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hello longtime empyreans,

Being very new to this community since winter 2017 I enjoy that this is an
online listserv because it is devoted to *discussing *things.
Facebook is about to popularize an idea and if you start a Twitter (with
its limit of word count) the only thing it does to get a lot of people
interested in your observation and creates quick connection to others that
are fleeting.

In this short time Im part of the listserv it gave me in contrast to other
online platforms connection to people that are devoted to deeper thinking
and willing to discuss and engage with others people thinking.

I do sense a desire to meet the listserv people in person, so may be in the
near future as an extension of this listserv virtual space there could be
an opportunity to meet as well in a physical space.

looking forward to meet others thinking and being and be part of the
discussions that grows out of this listserv community.

warmly

andrea
—
andrea haenggi
artist, choreographer, dancer, radical care sitter
faculty at Laban/Bartenieff Institute of Movement Studies

weedychoreography.com
1067pacificpeople.nyc
andreahenggi.net
environmentalperformanceagnecy.com


On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Renate Terese Ferro 
wrote:

> --empyre- soft-skinned space--
> Hello empyreans,
> To all of you historians and fans of early coding I found this post that
> Melinda wrote in describing the technology behind this online community of
> –empyre-.  If you were an innovator in coding early online listserv’s, chat
> spaces, or blogs or perhaps a technologist coding new forms on online
> communities I hope you will comment.
>
> Melinda Rackham wrote:
> 
> “Empyrean was a multi-user interactive "artistic" virtual community mostly
> hand coded in VRML2 -  sounds crazy -  designed to play in the
> non-proprietary environment of VNET,  a VRML and Java based 3D Virtual
> World client/server system, then freely available under the GNU Public
> Licence. Empyrean.alpha, the initial single user web site, premiered in
> September 2000 at la Biennale de Montreal at the Centre International d'Art
> Contemporain de Montreal (CIAC)
>
> …virtual space was far more experimental than it is today.  Construction
> and evolution of virtual spaces was taking the same road as every other
> technology .. many many small players, interesting niches, community
> developments, different software solutions.. Then in mid 2003 Second Life -
> which was sort of the money laundering Facebook of VR, appeared on the
> scene and almost levelled that experimentation and difference.
>
> Promising "Enter a world with infinite possibilities and live a life
> without boundaries, guided only by your imagination"  It had what the
> discussion has already flagged- easy access, low level of tech knowledge to
> use, instant fun avatars. The result however  is that imaginations got
> narrower.. and the resultant space is just a recreation of reality. Ben
> wrote a few weeks ago “We make reality, and reality remakes us. Reality
> makes us, and we remake reality.” The soft spaced world now seems to be a
> replicant of the hard bodied world, but we were idealistic think otherwise.”
> 
>
> Melinda’s intent of hosting an open and equitable space has inspired all
> of –empyre’s- moderators since Melinda hosted her last discussion topic.
> Back in the early days she recanted that she would invent alter egos,
> subscribers of her invention, that were designed to be “naïve” about the
> topics at hand to intentionally introduce other points of view.  Our
> longtime moderator Christine McPhee  posted under her own name or Nax Mash
> her alter ego.  As I mentioned in my last post –empyre- was never intended
> to be a highly theoretical space where only the voices of experts were
> encouraged to participate but that it be a discussion space for invention
> and innovation to reflect the emerging qualities of the evolution of the
> technology and its use for anyone interested in networked culture.
>
> In looking at some of Christina’s poetic posts from the archive I found
> one from February 1, 2010--reflecting on –empyre’s- name--
> 
>  I loved the image of a soft-skinned space, as if one of Ant Farm's
> inflatables, escape from the cubicle or the white cube.  Melinda's
> slightly nerdy use of lower caps for the name of the list - it was
> never 'Empyre'-- but always  " -empyre- " with those little dashes on
> either side, made the idea of 'empire' itself as absurd and as pompous
> as it may be-going up in flames (pyre or gyre?).
> 
>
> I see that Tim Murray also just posted.  Please feel free to join in.
> Renate
>
> Renate Ferro
> Visiting Associate Professor
> Director of Undergraduate Studies
> Department of Art
> Tjaden Hall 306
> rfe...@cornell.edu
>
> On 2/3/18, 12:27 PM, "empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au on
> behalf of Renate Terese Ferro"  on behalf of rfe...@cornell.edu> wro

Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[Renate Terese Ferro]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
Hello empyreans, 
To all of you historians and fans of early coding I found this post that 
Melinda wrote in describing the technology behind this online community of 
–empyre-.  If you were an innovator in coding early online listserv’s, chat 
spaces, or blogs or perhaps a technologist coding new forms on online 
communities I hope you will comment. 

Melinda Rackham wrote: 

“Empyrean was a multi-user interactive "artistic" virtual community mostly hand 
coded in VRML2 -  sounds crazy -  designed to play in the non-proprietary 
environment of VNET,  a VRML and Java based 3D Virtual World client/server 
system, then freely available under the GNU Public Licence. Empyrean.alpha, the 
initial single user web site, premiered in September 2000 at la Biennale de 
Montreal at the Centre International d'Art Contemporain de Montreal (CIAC)

…virtual space was far more experimental than it is today.  Construction and 
evolution of virtual spaces was taking the same road as every other technology 
.. many many small players, interesting niches, community developments, 
different software solutions.. Then in mid 2003 Second Life - which was sort of 
the money laundering Facebook of VR, appeared on the scene and almost levelled 
that experimentation and difference. 

Promising "Enter a world with infinite possibilities and live a life without 
boundaries, guided only by your imagination"  It had what the discussion has 
already flagged- easy access, low level of tech knowledge to use, instant fun 
avatars. The result however  is that imaginations got narrower.. and the 
resultant space is just a recreation of reality. Ben wrote a few weeks ago “We 
make reality, and reality remakes us. Reality makes us, and we remake reality.” 
The soft spaced world now seems to be a replicant of the hard bodied world, but 
we were idealistic think otherwise.”


Melinda’s intent of hosting an open and equitable space has inspired all of 
–empyre’s- moderators since Melinda hosted her last discussion topic.  Back in 
the early days she recanted that she would invent alter egos, subscribers of 
her invention, that were designed to be “naïve” about the topics at hand to 
intentionally introduce other points of view.  Our longtime moderator Christine 
McPhee  posted under her own name or Nax Mash her alter ego.  As I mentioned in 
my last post –empyre- was never intended to be a highly theoretical space where 
only the voices of experts were encouraged to participate but that it be a 
discussion space for invention and innovation to reflect the emerging qualities 
of the evolution of the technology and its use for anyone interested in 
networked culture. 

In looking at some of Christina’s poetic posts from the archive I found one 
from February 1, 2010--reflecting on –empyre’s- name--
 
 I loved the image of a soft-skinned space, as if one of Ant Farm's
inflatables, escape from the cubicle or the white cube.  Melinda's
slightly nerdy use of lower caps for the name of the list - it was
never 'Empyre'-- but always  " -empyre- " with those little dashes on
either side, made the idea of 'empire' itself as absurd and as pompous
as it may be-going up in flames (pyre or gyre?).


I see that Tim Murray also just posted.  Please feel free to join in. 
Renate

Renate Ferro
Visiting Associate Professor
Director of Undergraduate Studies
Department of Art
Tjaden Hall 306
rfe...@cornell.edu

On 2/3/18, 12:27 PM, "empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au on behalf of 
Renate Terese Ferro"  wrote:

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
February 3, 2018
Hello Theresa, 
Your comment echoes what Tim Murray, our other long -term moderator here, 
and I have been hearing from so many of our subscribers.  The tempo of the 
listserv can move exceedingly too fast.  We all can acknowledge that there are 
times we just don’t have the time to open and read posts carefully let alone 
respond to them.  The bio-artist Paul Vanouse shared with me his frustration 
that he had intended to respond to a fascinating post and by the time he got to 
writing a week had passed and he felt that his comment was not timely. 
Alternatively, there are other times when it moves at a snail’s pace or simply 
remains silent.  Over the years we have become quite comfortable with the 
pacing that is so inherent in a listserv which is so directly related to the 
ebbs and flows of those who are participating.  That is also why we often take 
the months of August and December completely off.  

I want to add that the anxiety of some over responding to a post later in 
the week or month is not a problem.  Take a look at our archives and you will 
see that the discussion is organized according to SUBJECT, AUTHOR, THREAD, or 
DATE.  The THREAD organizational tool allows a reader now or later or organize 
posts and responses to posts that are delayed.  The only caveat being that we 
cut off

Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[Renate Terese Ferro]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
February 3, 2018
Hello Theresa, 
Your comment echoes what Tim Murray, our other long -term moderator here, and I 
have been hearing from so many of our subscribers.  The tempo of the listserv 
can move exceedingly too fast.  We all can acknowledge that there are times we 
just don’t have the time to open and read posts carefully let alone respond to 
them.  The bio-artist Paul Vanouse shared with me his frustration that he had 
intended to respond to a fascinating post and by the time he got to writing a 
week had passed and he felt that his comment was not timely. Alternatively, 
there are other times when it moves at a snail’s pace or simply remains silent. 
 Over the years we have become quite comfortable with the pacing that is so 
inherent in a listserv which is so directly related to the ebbs and flows of 
those who are participating.  That is also why we often take the months of 
August and December completely off.  

I want to add that the anxiety of some over responding to a post later in the 
week or month is not a problem.  Take a look at our archives and you will see 
that the discussion is organized according to SUBJECT, AUTHOR, THREAD, or DATE. 
 The THREAD organizational tool allows a reader now or later or organize posts 
and responses to posts that are delayed.  The only caveat being that we cut off 
all posts not related to the topic at the end of the month. All of our 
subscribers are encouraged to respond to posts at any time in the month just be 
sure subject line in the email is identical to the thread it is in response to. 
 

You wrote
I prefer Empyre as a listserve. I have gone back through previous
discussions and looked up artists, followed threads and ideas when I
had time. I've gone deeper; the list moves fast for me.

I think that everyone agrees that our archive is the jewel of our online 
community.  
http://lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au/pipermail/empyre/
Since 2002 the University of New South Wales in Australia has generously hosted 
our history thanks to Melinda Rackham.  Tim Murray and I are also suggesting to 
our Editorial Board that in the coming year we archive the site at Cornell 
University as well within the Rose Goldsen Archive of New Media Art.  –empyre- 
soft-skin space reflects the emergence of technology and how artists and 
writers use and think through technology.  One of the things our Editorial 
Board will also be working on is a KEYWORDING system that searches the entire 
eighteen years of discussion topics and is not just monthly.  

You mentioned FACEBOOK.  To subscribers not following us on Facebook here is 
the link.  While it is public you must request to actually post directly.  
https://www.facebook.com/groups/empyrelistserv

And on Twitter
https://twitter.com/empyrelistserv

Just a reminder that although  snip its of posts and photos are launched 
through Facebook and Twitter, the full discussion and its archive can only be 
accessed by becoming a subscriber through our website.  

Thanks Teresa for responding about how slowness even works today. 
I am about to post a bit about the nuts and bolts of Melinda’s early coding of 
–empyre-soft-skinned space in a few minutes. 
Renate



Renate Ferro
Visiting Associate Professor
Director of Undergraduate Studies
Department of Art
Tjaden Hall 306
rfe...@cornell.edu

On 2/3/18, 11:39 AM, "empyre-boun...@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au on behalf of 
Theresa Ramseyer"  wrote:

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
Evening,

My computer-internet connection is still dial-up. It is unusable for
the moment, for various reasons. My phone is now my main connection,
but I can't get everything. Instagram, for example, is always a blank
page. Many times I'll click on a link and get nowhere.


I prefer Empyre as a listserve. I have gone back through previous
discussions and looked up artists, followed threads and ideas when I
had time. I've gone deeper; the list moves fast for me.


It's much easier to find a post on gmail or yahoo than to dig through 
Facebook.


I know Empyre has a Facebook presence, and Facebook is easy to reach
on my phone. But besides the searching difficulties, Facebook changes
their algorithims so often that I keep lists of my "must read" pages
and communities. It's annoying, to say the least.

Theresa Ramseyer
___
empyre forum
empyre@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au
http://empyre.library.cornell.edu


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Re: [-empyre-] -empyre- in 2002- a trip down memory lane

[Theresa Ramseyer]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
Evening,

My computer-internet connection is still dial-up. It is unusable for
the moment, for various reasons. My phone is now my main connection,
but I can't get everything. Instagram, for example, is always a blank
page. Many times I'll click on a link and get nowhere.


I prefer Empyre as a listserve. I have gone back through previous
discussions and looked up artists, followed threads and ideas when I
had time. I've gone deeper; the list moves fast for me.


It's much easier to find a post on gmail or yahoo than to dig through Facebook.


I know Empyre has a Facebook presence, and Facebook is easy to reach
on my phone. But besides the searching difficulties, Facebook changes
their algorithims so often that I keep lists of my "must read" pages
and communities. It's annoying, to say the least.

Theresa Ramseyer
___
empyre forum
empyre@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au
http://empyre.library.cornell.edu