On 9/10/07, Simon TRENY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> So indeed, Ewl can handle a high number of widgets a lot more
> efficiently than Etk. But that's only because it HAS to!
That's just completely wrong. We certainly could take the same
approach that ETK does and use specialized handlers for eac
On 9/10/07, Jesse Luehrs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Side note, but I think this is a large part of it... I know "that's
> just the default theme" or whatever, but the default ETK configuration
> personally feels much more consistent and good looking than EWL. EWL
> (in the little experience I'v
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:57:57 -0400
Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I tried them both, that's the first thing that made me like etk
> more than ewl, basically because of stability, since the ewl_test
> kept crashing for many of the widgets, and it had a huge amount of
> glitches. B
On Tuesday, 11 September 2007, at 01:31:52 (+0200),
Simon TRENY wrote:
> I'd love to be more active these days, but I'm just too busy with
> school and other "real" life projects. But it doesn't mean Etk is
> dead, some devs are doing a really great job on Etk currently!
I'm right there with you.
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On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 01:31:52AM +0200, Simon TRENY wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Se
Hi Carsten!
I bow before your words of wisdom, lol.
Everything you said makes sense and that's what I understood from the start
(kind of). I like your analogy of apple and orange juice :p
As I said many times, I never asked for an "official toolkit" (although I
presented that idea, as part of a
On Tuesday, 11 September 2007, at 08:23:58 (+0900),
Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> Which should you choose? Well - try both. Which one do you like
> best? No one can make that decision for you.
That answer has already been given multiple times (by me and others)
and rejected multiple times as insuffic
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 16:28:52 -0700,
Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> On Sunday, 09 September 2007, at 17:40:57 (-0400),
> Youness Alaoui wrote:
>
> > I've been 'bought' by the EWL developers early when I started
> > looking at EFL. I heard that EWL is more stable, more maintained,
>
Oh dear me. Look what this has become while i've not been looking. (i'm just
going to reply to the whole thread tree here and ignore the sniping bits - hey
kids - back to your seats!).
ETK vs. EWL - it can be summed up with:
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say
On Monday, 10 September 2007, at 17:17:21 (-0500),
Jesse Luehrs wrote:
> While it's true that bubble sort isn't ever going to be faster,
> that's not just because it's always O(n^2). Insertion sort is also
> O(n^2), but it does outperform quicksort on small data sets (under
> 10 elements or so)...
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:35:01 -0400
Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday, 10 September 2007, at 17:02:44 (-0400),
> Youness Alaoui wrote:
>
> > And did you not read my example of the sorting algorithm or did you
> > ignore it because you take offence to how I present it?
>
> I
On Monday, 10 September 2007, at 17:02:44 (-0400),
Youness Alaoui wrote:
> And did you not read my example of the sorting algorithm or did you
> ignore it because you take offence to how I present it?
I don't take offense at your examples. I don't even take offense at
your excessive ad hominem a
On Monday, 10 September 2007, at 16:59:55 (-0400),
Youness Alaoui wrote:
> maybe you should look up 'rude' in the dictionary.. try the
> synonyms, there must be something with stronger value than 'rude'.
http://nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html
> And who said I'm here to tell anyone
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 05:00:12PM -0400, Michael Jennings wrote:
> On Monday, 10 September 2007, at 16:39:20 (-0400),
> Youness Alaoui wrote:
>
> > Exactly, I don't care much about the performance (as long as it's
> > not affecting usability). I was just answering Michael that his "EWL
> > has be
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 01:52:22PM -0400, Michael Jennings wrote:
> On Sunday, 09 September 2007, at 23:49:47 (-0400),
> Youness Alaoui wrote:
>
> > First, before I answer each of your statements below, I'd like to
> > say that your email was rather rude, and it looks like you are
> > biaised. I'm
On Monday, 10 September 2007, at 16:39:20 (-0400),
Youness Alaoui wrote:
> Exactly, I don't care much about the performance (as long as it's
> not affecting usability). I was just answering Michael that his "EWL
> has better performance, period." is a bad argument since it is
> unproven facts. And
On Monday, 10 September 2007, at 16:42:25 (-0400),
Youness Alaoui wrote:
> > > At least an answer, althought I'm not sure about your arguments,
> > > I'd like to see some ETK developer give his point of view.
>
> no comment.. if you can't even read and understand a sentence
> without me explaining
On Monday, 10 September 2007, at 16:40:13 (-0400),
Youness Alaoui wrote:
> > > Well, I agree on what you're saying, and I've thought about it
> > > too, but slightly different. I was thinking that E, just like
> > > KDE and Gnome, should have its own toolkit, and 'etk' answers
> > > that by being
no comment.. if you can't even read and understand a sentence without me
explaining every word to you, I don't see why I'm wasting my time with
you...
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 01:53:17PM -0400, Michael Jennings wrote:
> On Sunday, 09 September 2007, at 23:52:14 (-0400),
> Youness Alaoui wrote:
>
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 01:10:11PM -0400, Michael Jennings wrote:
> On Sunday, 09 September 2007, at 23:49:01 (-0400),
> Youness Alaoui wrote:
>
> > Well, I agree on what you're saying, and I've thought about it too,
> > but slightly different. I was thinking that E, just like KDE and
> > Gnome, s
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Subject: Re: [E-devel] Starting programming in EFL
Exactly, I don't care much about the performance (as long as it
On Sunday, 09 September 2007, at 23:49:01 (-0400),
Youness Alaoui wrote:
> Well, I agree on what you're saying, and I've thought about it too,
> but slightly different. I was thinking that E, just like KDE and
> Gnome, should have its own toolkit, and 'etk' answers that by being
> 'enlightenment t
On Sunday, 09 September 2007, at 23:49:47 (-0400),
Youness Alaoui wrote:
> First, before I answer each of your statements below, I'd like to
> say that your email was rather rude, and it looks like you are
> biaised. I'm afraid that your answer would open a troll, which is
> not what I want.
My e
On Sunday, 09 September 2007, at 23:52:14 (-0400),
Youness Alaoui wrote:
> At least an answer, althought I'm not sure about your arguments, I'd
> like to see some ETK developer give his point of view.
But before you said you wanted opinions from people who weren't on
either team. So make up your
Am Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:49:01 -0400 schrieb Youness Alaoui:
> > I've proposed that common parts should be made as another library,
> > so more things are shared... as they already share evas (base
> > graphics) and edje (theme), I think that layout could be split in a
> > libelayout, doing hbox, vbo
On 9/10/07, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 04:20:31PM -0700, Michael Jennings wrote:
> > On Sunday, 09 September 2007, at 13:06:12 (-0300),
> > Diogo Dutra wrote:
> >
> > > What is more recommended to start programing in widgets EFL?
> > > EWL or ETK?
> > > I do
On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 04:20:31PM -0700, Michael Jennings wrote:
> On Sunday, 09 September 2007, at 13:06:12 (-0300),
> Diogo Dutra wrote:
>
> > What is more recommended to start programing in widgets EFL?
> > EWL or ETK?
> > I dont programming in gtk
> > I want know, what is more powerfull,
First, before I answer each of your statements below, I'd like to say that your
email was rather rude, and it looks like you are biaised. I'm
afraid that your answer would open a troll, which is not what I want.
On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 04:28:52PM -0700, Michael Jennings wrote:
> On Sunday, 09 Se
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On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 08:56:06PM -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
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On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 05:10:51PM -0700, Michael Jennings wrote:
> On
On Sunday, 09 September 2007, at 18:59:47 (-0400),
Youness Alaoui wrote:
> Yes, but how should we know which one serves our needs best if we
> can't get a straightforward and honest answer on the pros and cons
> of each one.
By trying them both and forming your own opinions (as you seem to have
d
On 9/9/07, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 05:48:56PM -0400, Christopher Michael wrote:
> > Youness Alaoui wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I'm also very interested in such an answer.
> >> I've been 'bought' by the EWL developers early when I started looking at
> >> EFL. I h
On Sunday, 09 September 2007, at 17:40:57 (-0400),
Youness Alaoui wrote:
> I've been 'bought' by the EWL developers early when I started
> looking at EFL. I heard that EWL is more stable, more maintained,
> better in performance, etc... so I chose EWL.
EWL might be considered more "active." A si
On Sunday, 09 September 2007, at 13:06:12 (-0300),
Diogo Dutra wrote:
> What is more recommended to start programing in widgets EFL?
> EWL or ETK?
> I dont programming in gtk
> I want know, what is more powerfull, and stable, if possible without
> very bugs...
> I have started in EWL a little.
On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 05:48:56PM -0400, Christopher Michael wrote:
> Youness Alaoui wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm also very interested in such an answer.
>> I've been 'bought' by the EWL developers early when I started looking at
>> EFL. I heard that EWL is more stable, more maintained, better in
>> perf
Youness Alaoui wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm also very interested in such an answer.
> I've been 'bought' by the EWL developers early when I started looking at EFL.
> I heard that EWL is more stable, more maintained, better in
> performance, etc... so I chose EWL.
> Then I was approached by the ETK developer
Hi,
I'm also very interested in such an answer.
I've been 'bought' by the EWL developers early when I started looking at EFL. I
heard that EWL is more stable, more maintained, better in
performance, etc... so I chose EWL.
Then I was approached by the ETK developers and I was also 'bought' by them
The EWL or ETK choice is up to you, each group has their own
preference. The EWL theme can be a part of the e17 theme, but I'm not
aware of any themes distributed that way at this time.
On 9/9/07, Diogo Dutra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is more recommended to start programing in widgets EFL?
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