Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Toma wrote: On 30/07/2008, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent wrote: Quoting Nathan Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One idea I discussed with Vincent today is that our lack of releases has caused many users to lose interest and stop taking notice of the

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread Jose Gonzalez
I wrote: ... As to the above mentioned steps.. I disagree with some of the arguments, but they are also not unreasonable - so long as everyone realizes that the state of many things in E is still rather basic and are willing to 'break' apis on major releases when they bring

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread Toma
On 31/07/2008, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote: ... As to the above mentioned steps.. I disagree with some of the arguments, but they are also not unreasonable - so long as everyone realizes that the state of many things in E is still rather basic and are

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Toma wrote: On 31/07/2008, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote: ... As to the above mentioned steps.. I disagree with some of the arguments, but they are also not unreasonable - so long as everyone realizes that the state of many things in E is

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread Jose Gonzalez
I wrote: Toma wrote: On 31/07/2008, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote: ... As to the above mentioned steps.. I disagree with some of the arguments, but they are also not unreasonable - so long as everyone realizes

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread Vincent Torri
By a future version of those libs of course I meant a 'major' version increase. In any case, if you want to know why I don't think eg. evas is near ready for a release: it's not just gradients or vgfx stuff, it's possibly smart classes and native surfaces that may need breaking

Re: [E-devel] Proposed evas gfx api changes and additions - part I.

2008-07-31 Thread Jorge Luis Zapata Muga
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the subject states, let me make a (relatively) short summary of some proposed changes and additions to the evas gfx api -- and I'll deal with only gradients and a possible vgfx-objs api, leaving transforms (mostly)

Re: [E-devel] Proposed evas gfx api changes and additions - part I.

2008-07-31 Thread Jorge Luis Zapata Muga
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the subject states, let me make a (relatively) short summary of some proposed changes and additions to the evas gfx api -- and I'll

Re: [E-devel] Proposed evas gfx api changes and additions - part I.

2008-07-31 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Jorge wrote: Some time ago i had another idea that i've been implementing, some of you already know enesim and ekeko, some other dont, let me explain why i think adding this to evas is not good imho. One of the main reasons of not releasing software is that it evolves too fast or it

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread Nicolas Aguirre
that's a bit what i propose when i said to release as 0.10. We keep the major release to 0 and are free to break anything for the major 1 version In addition, packagers will be happier with a 0.10 release rather than with a snapshot, which means that we can spread the efl technologies in a

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread Solerman Kaplon
Toma escreveu: Thats a funny one, because a lot of people say Oh, E17 isnt as good as Gnome... or KDE when its not completely a desktop environmant like those 2. It has a lot of the mechanics of a full DE and being so modular, could fill the things needed to become a full DE from that point.

[E-devel] Nightly build log for E17 on 2008-07-31 07:10:58 -0700

2008-07-31 Thread Nightly build system
Build log for Enlightenment DR 0.17 on 2008-07-31 07:10:58 -0700 Build logs are available at http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs Packages that failed to build: enna http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/enna.log epdf http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/epdf.log

Re: [E-devel] Porting E to an ARM based embedded system.

2008-07-31 Thread Robert Schwebel
Hi, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 05:27:35PM -0300, imx31cpu . wrote: I am new to the enlightment world and I will soon (tomorrow) start trying to port it to an embedded system (Freescale i.MX31 PDK - http://www.freescale.com/imx31pdk). Since I am not an experient developer on the linux

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread Bruno
On Thu, 31 July 2008 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anything, it might be an idea to ask people, what 'needs' to be done? I see a few people on IRC and on forums saying, E17 is good, but its just not finished/has bits missing. Some lusers go as far to say Err E17 is buggy and not stable! Waa

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread dan sinclair
On 31-Jul-08, at 3:48 PM, Bruno wrote: On Thu, 31 July 2008 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anything, it might be an idea to ask people, what 'needs' to be done? I see a few people on IRC and on forums saying, E17 is good, but its just not finished/has bits missing. Some lusers go as far to

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread Bruno
On Thu, 31 July 2008 dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31-Jul-08, at 3:48 PM, Bruno wrote: On Thu, 31 July 2008 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anything, it might be an idea to ask people, what 'needs' to be done? I see a few people on IRC and on forums saying, E17 is good, but

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread dan sinclair
On 31-Jul-08, at 4:14 PM, Bruno wrote: On Thu, 31 July 2008 dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31-Jul-08, at 3:48 PM, Bruno wrote: On Thu, 31 July 2008 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anything, it might be an idea to ask people, what 'needs' to be done? I see a few people on IRC and

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:24 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on if the projects are using it. You can see features we're working for Ewl and the discussions we've had about how to implement them. You can also search for resolved and closed bugs to see what's implemented

Re: [E-devel] Porting E to an ARM based embedded system.

2008-07-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:23:53 +0200 Robert Schwebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 05:27:35PM -0300, imx31cpu . wrote: I am new to the enlightment world and I will soon (tomorrow) start trying to port it to an embedded system (Freescale i.MX31 PDK -

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-07-31 Thread Toma
Someone needs to blog all the interesting changes to cvs then submit that to places like reddit, digg and slashdot. That way people see all this interesting stuff going on and want to join in. Toma On 7/29/08, Nathan Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the most recent license flamewar was

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-07-31 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
That would be useful. This is a great task for someone that doesn't feel they are a developer, but can understand the CVS logs that come through. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone needs to blog all the interesting changes to cvs then submit that to places

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-07-31 Thread Downknew Wise
|Sorry for my bad english, fix me| I think that the e community need: 1. A website well structured. Today it is unusable!!! It should be simple! The first page has to show the power of e (with fresh screenshots, news). New graphic and new layout (the design is good but it isn't fit the usability

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-07-31 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Downknew Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |Sorry for my bad english, fix me| I think that the e community need: 1. A website well structured. Today it is unusable!!! It should be simple! The first page has to show the power of e (with fresh screenshots, news).

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-07-31 Thread Toma
On 01/08/2008, Downknew Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |Sorry for my bad english, fix me| I think that the e community need: 1. A website well structured. Today it is unusable!!! It should be simple! The first page has to show the power of e (with fresh screenshots, news). New graphic and new