Re: [E-devel] RFC: embryo release in 2 weeks

2008-08-02 Thread Blake Barnett
delurk/ On Aug 2, 2008, at 12:11 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:52 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:03:33 -0500 Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Jose Gonzalez wrote: Gustavo wrote: Since Edje is

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-02 Thread Blake Barnett
On Aug 1, 2008, at 10:53 PM, dan sinclair wrote: On 2-Aug-08, at 1:40 AM, Nick Hughart wrote: Vincent Torri wrote: On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote: I'd say you're so eager to release something you're not thinking about the impression it gives. Changing things in a pre-1.0 is fine

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-02 Thread Blake Barnett
On Aug 2, 2008, at 6:55 PM, dan sinclair wrote: On 2-Aug-08, at 9:41 PM, Blake Barnett wrote: On Aug 1, 2008, at 10:53 PM, dan sinclair wrote: It all comes down to when you're doing the 2.0 release. If you do a 2.0 release in a few months it looks like we just rushed a 1.0 out the door

Re: [E-devel] Debian files in CVS

2008-03-19 Thread Blake Barnett
On Mar 19, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Falko Schmidt wrote: Hello everyone, I've been responsible for the CVS commits regarding Debian packaging since about two years. The PkgE Debian Team (http://wiki.debian.org/PkgE) is about to upload or already uploading some EFL packages to Debian experimental.

Re: [E-devel] Ewl and Edje

2008-02-15 Thread Blake Barnett
On Feb 15, 2008, at 8:36 PM, Nathan Ingersoll wrote: snip Yeah, unfortunately my participation at SCALE fell through. I'm not sure if raster made it, but it would be good to hear a trip report if he did. :-)

Re: [E-devel] e_modules net and wlan fixes

2006-12-08 Thread Blake Barnett
On Dec 7, 2006, at 9:24 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 13:51:48 -0600 Brian Mattern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 11:53:53AM -0600, Brian Mattern wrote: On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 05:52:40PM +1000, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 18:33:06 -0600 Brian

Re: [E-devel] EDC Editor first try

2006-11-08 Thread Blake Barnett
On Nov 8, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Виктор Кожухаров wrote: В ср, 2006-11-08 в 23:08 +0100, Morten Nilsen написа: Arnaldo de Moraes Pereira wrote: On 11/8/06, DaveMDS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: Some idea for the application name? my first choice is 'ertist' but need suggestion. Edesigner ?

Re: [E-devel] Larger diff against CVS concernig autofoo and debian/*

2006-10-24 Thread Blake Barnett
On Oct 23, 2006, at 4:46 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:43:02 -0700 Blake Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Oct 23, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:59:36 +0200 Jakob Haufe [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [E-devel] Larger diff against CVS concernig autofoo and debian/*

2006-10-24 Thread Blake Barnett
On Oct 24, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Michael Jennings wrote: On Tuesday, 24 October 2006, at 10:13:21 (-0700), Blake Barnett wrote: Obviously these packages wouldn't get into Debian this way. Once the version changes to 0.17, it won't matter anymore. Are you sure? Epoch in RPM supercedes

Re: [E-devel] Larger diff against CVS concernig autofoo and debian/*

2006-10-24 Thread Blake Barnett
On Oct 24, 2006, at 11:48 AM, Michael Jennings wrote: On Tuesday, 24 October 2006, at 10:48:16 (-0700), Blake Barnett wrote: And even still, it shouldn't matter. If people are going to change their source for the packages (especially going to the main repository), they need to remove all

Re: [E-devel] Larger diff against CVS concernig autofoo and debian/*

2006-10-24 Thread Blake Barnett
On Oct 24, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Michael Jennings wrote: On Tuesday, 24 October 2006, at 12:09:11 (-0700), Blake Barnett wrote: We did it because it was a support nightmare to explain why the main repository packages always took precedence, even though their version was lower. It works

Re: [E-devel] fix for that silly -mfpmath=sse weirdness

2006-09-25 Thread Blake Barnett
On Sep 25, 2006, at 10:44 AM, David Sharp wrote: amd64 users, rejoice! i got tired of slowing down e with -mfpmath=387 all the time, so i finally dug in to this bug after realizing it was probably a problem with floating point cancelation (occurs when subtracting two numbers that are very

Re: [E-devel] itray module

2006-09-18 Thread Blake Barnett
Personally, I don't think it's worth it. Integrating it well with e17 is non-trivial because of deficiencies in the spec. Trayer works fine as an alternative: http://prdownload.berlios.de/fvwm-crystal/ trayer-1.0.tar.gz -Blake On Sep 18, 2006, at 12:10 PM, João Vale wrote: I assumed it

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread Blake Barnett
On Sep 11, 2006, at 6:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 08:23:34AM -0500, Alberto Castro wrote: Eugen Minciu wrote: There's www.enlightenment.org and www.e-develop.org and www.get- e.org. This really seems like a far stretch to me, imho there should be just one

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread Blake Barnett
On Sep 11, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Michael Jennings wrote: snip Thanks, but I think we'd rather not. Not many of us know or use Ruby, and some of the most fundamental Ruby software (Rake!) is broken. I'd rather stick with something more mature and more supported by the developers. snip Huh?

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread Blake Barnett
On Sep 11, 2006, at 11:12 AM, Michael Jennings wrote: On Monday, 11 September 2006, at 11:04:13 (-0700), Blake Barnett wrote: I don't think it's even worth discussing going back to the old CVS/HTML setup. The point is to encourage _casual_ contribution, not to make it hard, which it seems

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread Blake Barnett
On Sep 11, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Michael Jennings wrote: On Monday, 11 September 2006, at 11:41:51 (-0700), Blake Barnett wrote: And it requires giving everyone who wants to add a simple little news item access to everything in CVS (should normally be a problem... but.) So? Like write

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread Blake Barnett
On Sep 11, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Michael Jennings wrote: On Monday, 11 September 2006, at 23:29:11 (+0300), Hisham Mardam Bey wrote: Prior to diving into the what to use discussion See, I don't think that's the conversation we should be having right now. We're using XSM right now. Unless

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread Blake Barnett
On Sep 11, 2006, at 4:25 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: snip one issues i see in merging them - 2 use xsm (fine) 1. uses drupal (php cms). edevelop's forums just can't function without dynamic www - xsm itself can't really scale there. so do we rewrite forum code in php to

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/imlib2 kwo

2006-09-07 Thread Blake Barnett
On Sep 7, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Michael Jennings wrote: On Friday, 08 September 2006, at 00:13:17 (+0200), Kim Woelders wrote: Hehehe - You'll love it: libX11-devel-1.0.3-2.fc6 libXScrnSaver-devel-1.1.0-3.1 libXTrap-devel-1.0.0-3.1 libXau-devel-1.0.1-3.1 libXaw-devel-1.0.2-8.1

Re: [E-devel] Notification area

2006-08-10 Thread Blake Barnett
On Aug 10, 2006, at 4:03 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:51:24 -0400 Dusik [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:23:38 -0400 Carl Bolduc [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Is there a plan on supporting this kinda notifications? Thank you for the

Re: [E-devel] Using freedesktop.org .desktop files.

2006-08-10 Thread Blake Barnett
On Aug 11, 2006, at 12:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carsten writes: XPM is not hard - loader is in imlbi2 - can be snarfed in. svg - well - a bigger issue - but i think we can avoid it for now and just display default icons in place. as long the the icon finder routine will

Re: [E-devel] Premul move -- decisions and such

2006-07-05 Thread Blake Barnett
On Jul 5, 2006, at 7:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This would allow evas to remain purely within the realm of non-premul color space and have more-or-less the same results with the xrender engine as with the software engine. The benefits of this would of course be that

Re: [E-devel] Premul move -- decisions and such

2006-07-05 Thread Blake Barnett
On Jul 5, 2006, at 6:11 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 15:43:54 -0700 Blake Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Jul 5, 2006, at 7:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This would allow evas to remain purely within the realm of non-premul color

Re: [E-devel] EFL High Level documentation draft

2006-06-29 Thread Blake Barnett
Excellent document! I know a professional editor that I'm going to have look it over. Here's one thing that's jumped out at me so far: The stack diagram on this[1] page is wrong, I understand that it's explained later as being fundamentally flawed, but even still, it's quite misleading.

Re: [E-devel] EFL High Level documentation draft

2006-06-28 Thread Blake Barnett
You're welcome to host the documentation on edevelop.org. Let me know of any facilities I can provide. I'm happy to do so. -Blake On Jun 27, 2006, at 11:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first full draft of the EFL documentation is finished. Thanks to Matthew R. Dempsky for fixing

Re: [E-devel] e17 cvs emotion - make error

2005-12-02 Thread Blake Barnett
Guillermo Movia wrote: Is Emotion needed for something else more than eclair? I had the same problem. I saw the update solution, but my debian sarge still has the old version of libxine. If emotion wasn't needed i wait for the update of the debian package. It's needed for ewl_media, eclair,

Re: [E-devel] CVS diff for PreselPrev

2005-11-07 Thread Blake Barnett
David Seikel wrote: Until a few hours ago entrance was unmaintained. Apparently xcomp, the previous maintainer, has become too busy with other things to do much with it. Earlier today I adopted it. However, I made it perfectly clear when I adopted it that it will be a few weeks before I can

Re: [E-devel] [ANNOUNCE] e_modules removal from cvs

2005-11-03 Thread Blake Barnett
Didier Casse wrote: On 11/3/05, Michael Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *snip* Why? Maintained, yes. Per author, no. Separately from CVS, definitely not. Having it public encourages others to pick up where the original author left off. CVS is first and foremost a collaboration tool.

Re: [E-devel] evolume 0.0.14ha1 is not listed in Modules

2005-10-27 Thread Blake Barnett
Eric Sandall wrote: I recently made a package for Source Mage GNU/Linux (http://www.sourcemage.org/) for eVolume (after seeing the post about 0.0.11 being available, but found only 0.0.14ha1 on the listed URL). It seems to compile[0] and install[1] just fine, but even after restarting E17

Re: [E-devel] Module blogging, and a wee default_clock.edc suggestion

2005-10-21 Thread Blake Barnett
David Stevenson wrote: So far I've got four basic entires on my not-oft-visited blog, and I'm going to add more as I progress (and gradually improve my writing style). I have also been working on a full creation of an e17 module article, which I'll post once the module I'm working on is

Re: [E-devel] A new E17 module called emu.

2005-10-19 Thread Blake Barnett
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: actually - evoak was an entirely different beast. :) I know it's entirely different, but it _allows_ some of the same features. And I'm assuming that one of the big reasons for emu is to allow anyone to create an app that can gain the benefits of the

Re: [E-devel] A new E17 module called emu.

2005-10-19 Thread Blake Barnett
Blake Barnett wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: actually - evoak was an entirely different beast. :) I know it's entirely different, but it _allows_ some of the same features. And I'm assuming that one of the big reasons for emu is to allow anyone to create an app

Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment Website List (E-web) Revived

2005-10-13 Thread Blake Barnett
Valtteri Vainikka wrote: snip a.) That all staff (and users are welcome too) from all ring sites (edevelop, get-e, e, elivecd) would join and actively follow this mailing list. b.) That all ring sites would have at least most of their critical announcements and discussions on this mailing

Re: [E-devel] I'm gonna write some FAQ's.

2005-10-07 Thread Blake Barnett
David Seikel wrote: I'm currently looking through my latest cvs checkout, searching for existing FAQ's to modify, style guides, and anything else that will point me in the right direction. Nothing found so far. Any pointers guys? CVSROOT/e17/docs/presentations/faq.*

Re: [E-devel] I'm gonna write some FAQ's.

2005-10-07 Thread Blake Barnett
David Seikel wrote: To say that some consolidation and management of these is needed would be an understatement. Guess I just volunteered for that job. It'd be great if all these references pointed to the same place. If it's CVS, or the enlightenment.org CMS, or the get-e.org CMS,

Re: [E-devel] Re: [e-users] Some feedback

2005-09-28 Thread Blake Barnett
Michael Jennings wrote: Surely the community would not wish to begrudge us even that one small reimbursement for our time The community would like to use you up and toss you aside. Or put you on a pedestal and worship you. Or both, and not necessarily in that order. -Blake

Re: [E-devel] Re: [e-users] Some feedback

2005-09-27 Thread Blake Barnett
Andreas Volz wrote: Am Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:53:03 -0300 schrieb Ivan Hernandez: I really thin most e users use the sloppy or mouse model... but most PC users, use click model. that's just because the 3 big players on the PC desktop are using it. Win32, KDE and Gnome. Anyway, there is a path