Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive

[Massimo Maiurana]

Peter Flynn ha scritto il 07/10/2015 alle 23:48:

> So e17 IS recognising something happening, it's just not doing anything 
> meaningful about it, which is a pity; I have to fire up Dolphin to be 
> certain that I can see stuff that gets plugged in.
>

If you enable desktop icons you will get the drive icon on the desktop,
even if you choose to not mount it or not open EFM (which requires
mounting) on it.

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Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive

[David Myers]

Hello again all.

Thanks for the advice and suggestions.

I feel silly not to have found the source, so I'll hunt it out an try it
out (probably over the weekend)

I know what the others are saying about using Thunar / dolphin / some other
FM. but I really do like the look and feel of the Enlightenment apps, and
Thunar really doesn't fit in with the rest of the E17 default 'dark' look.


For The places Module
if it could simply add the USB drives into the menu with options to mount
/unmount and navigate to the folder, that would work. Or alternatively a
little icon that showed up when a disk in inserted (again mount / unmount
navigate options)
I don't always want my inserted disks to show up straight away, if I don't
need to have it mounted (but plugged in just in case) that is fine by be ~
why mount it if i'm not using any of the files.
However transfering data to / from colleagues I need to be able to easily
unmount and safely remove them (and be informed I can remove them).

I went back to xfce to see how it handled the whole thing, and it has no
problems unmounting the drives.

I don't have an issue for writing a shell script (or just using umount for
that matter) but it is a nuisance.

Mount points:

Debian seems to have the choice to be able to mount the disks in either
/media/[UserName]/[diskName], or depending on the modules in
/media/usb[0-x] ~ where x is the count of your USB ports.

I would like to upgrade to E19, but I can't get the ubuntu ppa to be
recognised. Not that it is urgent.

Thanks for all the advice.

David




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On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Dale Snell  wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 22:48:01 +0100, in message
> 56159311.7020...@silmaril.ie, Peter Flynn wrote:
>
> > On 07/10/15 20:45, Roy Reese wrote:
> > > Is it that you do not want to mount those drives in the first
> > > place, or would like to unmount them?
> >
> > I can'd speak for David, but I'd just like an icon to appear on my
> > desktop when I insert a USB device. One I can click on to mount,
> > unmount, open fileman, or whatever. Right now, e17 out of the box
> > doesn't recognise anything has happened.
> >
> > > I know that in E19 (and I assume E17), you can set EFM to *not*
> > > mount drives automatically. See Settings > File Manager > Device and
> > > uncheck "Mount volumes on insertion".
> >
> > In e17 it's Settings > All > Files > File Manager.
> >
> > Setting it to mount volumes on insert does not work: when a USB stick
> > is inserted, it is not mounted (at least, not in /media/).
> > Perhaps e17 mounts it somewhere else.
>
> I don't know where Debian or Ubuntu mount hot-pluggable drives,
> however, Fedora mounts them in /run/media//.  I
> don't know why they changed from /media to /run/media, but they
> did.  Perhaps Debian did the same.
>
> > > What I have noticed in E19 is that I can unmount external devices,
> > > but not always eject them (pen drives yes; most external HDDs, no).
> >
> > When I first saw Eject as an option for USB drives, I thought how
> > nice it would be if the socket had a spring-loaded ejecter like a
> > tape drive does :-)
>
> I can see it now, USB memory sticks flying about the room at Very
> High Speed, Indeed.  Reminds me of the old DEC assembly
> pseudo-instructions.  Such wonderful things as Execute Programmer
> Immediate, Halt And Catch Fire, and our favorite, Eject Disk
> Immediate.  Given the the usual disk in those days was an RK05,
> which had a one-foot diameter aluminum platter spinning at 3600
> RPM, it makes for one heck of a Frizbie.  :-)  :-)  :-)
>
> Ancient humor aside, I hope this helps.
>
> --Dale
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Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive

[Roy Reese]

miércoles 7 de octubre de 2015 a las 22:17 Davide Andreoli escribió:

>> By the way, the Places module is constantly criticised for not playing
>> nice in E,
>
> 
> I never heard about this critics... can you give me some more info? so that
> I can improve the module to meet different requirements. I use it everyday in 
> E (without using the E fm) and I do not have any problems.

I have seen posts about this in the past, perhaps in some of the fora I use. 
The 
Arch wiki simply issues a warning about non-official modules, and from time to
time the AUR version would not compile properly, So perhaps I spoke too 
strongly. 
I do not that there are users who use it regularly. Mounting and unmounting 
works 
well in E19, so I haven't felt the need for the module.

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Re: [e-users] e19 - Mount and Unmount USB drive

[Markus Törnqvist]

On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 10:48:01PM +0100, Peter Flynn wrote:
>On 07/10/15 20:45, Roy Reese wrote:
>
>> I know that in E19 (and I assume E17), you can set EFM to *not* mount
>> drives automatically. See Settings > File Manager > Device and
>> uncheck "Mount volumes on insertion".
>
>In e17 it's Settings > All > Files > File Manager.

Not to try to hijack this thread, but I just updated my home desktop
e19 to latest stable on Debian Sid. USB sticks give me an unable to mount
timeout error.

Upgraded the work laptop earlier, gonna check the situation there tomorrow.

Is Places useful for this? It does not appear to be officially released...

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Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive

[Peter Flynn]

On 08/10/15 04:18, Dale Snell wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 22:48:01 +0100, in message
> 56159311.7020...@silmaril.ie, Peter Flynn wrote:
[...]
>> Setting it to mount volumes on insert does not work: when a USB stick
>> is inserted, it is not mounted (at least, not in /media/).
>> Perhaps e17 mounts it somewhere else.
>
> I don't know where Debian or Ubuntu mount hot-pluggable drives,

/media/

> however, Fedora mounts them in /run/media//.

It would, wouldn't it :-)

> I don't know why they changed from /media to /run/media, but they
> did.

Gotta be different from Debian. Gotta, gotta, gotta. Sometimes they're 
right: RH's Apache puts your web site in /var/www/html where $deity 
intended it to be, not in some hole-in-the-corner place in /usr/local; 
after all, disks/drives/USBs/etc used all to be mounted in /mnt, which 
made sense (to me, at least).

As the database engineer said when he saw his first XML document, "I 
remember when all this used to be fields" :-)

///Peter




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[e-users] no tray

[Paul Cartwright]

I just setup a new laptp with fedora 22 and enlightenment. When I log 
in, there s a blank ( dark) screen. I can click & get the menus, but 
there is no tray/Ibar with favorites on it. from a terminal I just ran 
dnf install enlightenment, and it installed the packages.. what am I 
missing?

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Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive

[Peter Flynn]

On 08/10/15 12:59, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
> Peter Flynn ha scritto il 07/10/2015 alle 23:48:
>
>> So e17 IS recognising something happening, it's just not doing anything
>> meaningful about it, which is a pity; I have to fire up Dolphin to be
>> certain that I can see stuff that gets plugged in.
>>
>
> If you enable desktop icons you will get the drive icon on the desktop,
> even if you choose to not mount it or not open EFM (which requires
> mounting) on it.

Unfortunately, desktop icons *were* enabled. Made no difference.

I just tested this to document it: I opened Settings > All > Files > 
File Manager, and show device icons on desktop was already checked (this 
is pre-set at installation). Unchecking it and clicking Apply does NOT 
remove the existing three pre-set icons (Root, Home, and Temp), but 
blinks them, and a little spinner flashes briefly at the bottom, saying 
"3 files". Rechecking the option and clicking Apply makes them blink 
again. But they do NOT disappear.

Mount volumes on insert was also pre-set to checked at installation. If 
I tail syslog and plug in a USB stick, it is correctly detected by the 
system, but no mount occurs (or if it does, it's in somewhere well hidden).

This seems to be why the option Open filemanager on mount fails; because 
the device is never mounted.

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Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive

[The Rasterman]

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 22:43:43 +0100 Peter Flynn  said:

> On 08/10/15 12:59, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
> > Peter Flynn ha scritto il 07/10/2015 alle 23:48:
> >
> >> So e17 IS recognising something happening, it's just not doing anything
> >> meaningful about it, which is a pity; I have to fire up Dolphin to be
> >> certain that I can see stuff that gets plugged in.
> >>
> >
> > If you enable desktop icons you will get the drive icon on the desktop,
> > even if you choose to not mount it or not open EFM (which requires
> > mounting) on it.
> 
> Unfortunately, desktop icons *were* enabled. Made no difference.
> 
> I just tested this to document it: I opened Settings > All > Files > 
> File Manager, and show device icons on desktop was already checked (this 
> is pre-set at installation). Unchecking it and clicking Apply does NOT 
> remove the existing three pre-set icons (Root, Home, and Temp), but 
> blinks them, and a little spinner flashes briefly at the bottom, saying 
> "3 files". Rechecking the option and clicking Apply makes them blink 
> again. But they do NOT disappear.

those are not device icons. they are links - that's all. device icons appear as
you insert a cd, dvd into a drive, plug in a thumbdrive or usb hdd, or insert
an sd card into a reader etc.

they work here on arch - have worked a charm ever since i can remember. i don't
know what's wrong with your system there, but it works for me.

> Mount volumes on insert was also pre-set to checked at installation. If 
> I tail syslog and plug in a USB stick, it is correctly detected by the 
> system, but no mount occurs (or if it does, it's in somewhere well hidden).
> 
> This seems to be why the option Open filemanager on mount fails; because 
> the device is never mounted.

could it be that your packages are broken? to mount requires root access.
enlightenment_sys should be setuid root to work. that is all i can imagine at
this point... though you should SEE icons on plugging in a removable device as
above regardless of permissions - this requires udev support and eeze support
in e - is your efl and/or e compiled without this support?

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Re: [e-users] e19 - Mount and Unmount USB drive

[Markus Törnqvist]

On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 10:08:51PM +0300, Markus Törnqvist wrote:
>On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 10:48:01PM +0100, Peter Flynn wrote:
>Not to try to hijack this thread, but I just updated my home desktop
>e19 to latest stable on Debian Sid. USB sticks give me an unable to mount
>timeout error.
>
>Upgraded the work laptop earlier, gonna check the situation there tomorrow.

Took this up on IRC and checked the laptop. At home I have Mode: UDISKS under
the File Manager settings - here I have Mode: UDISKS2.

Funny thing is I have the udisks2 packages installed at home, I'm sure, but at
work I have the libudisks2-dev but no libudisks-dev, so maybe if I have both
at home this could be a bug that it builds against the wrong one? Any takes
on this theory?

The script I use to build this checks for /bin/systemd and enables systemd
in EFL if available; I thought I had this at home but if I remember the
config.log correctly it's only on my laptop that it enabled systemd.

Going to gather a ton of forensics, or the actual laptop, with me today and
get back if/when I have a solution for this.

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