Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive
Peter Flynn ha scritto il 07/10/2015 alle 23:48: > So e17 IS recognising something happening, it's just not doing anything > meaningful about it, which is a pity; I have to fire up Dolphin to be > certain that I can see stuff that gets plugged in. > If you enable desktop icons you will get the drive icon on the desktop, even if you choose to not mount it or not open EFM (which requires mounting) on it. -- Massimo Maiurana Ragusa (RG) -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive
Hello again all. Thanks for the advice and suggestions. I feel silly not to have found the source, so I'll hunt it out an try it out (probably over the weekend) I know what the others are saying about using Thunar / dolphin / some other FM. but I really do like the look and feel of the Enlightenment apps, and Thunar really doesn't fit in with the rest of the E17 default 'dark' look. For The places Module if it could simply add the USB drives into the menu with options to mount /unmount and navigate to the folder, that would work. Or alternatively a little icon that showed up when a disk in inserted (again mount / unmount navigate options) I don't always want my inserted disks to show up straight away, if I don't need to have it mounted (but plugged in just in case) that is fine by be ~ why mount it if i'm not using any of the files. However transfering data to / from colleagues I need to be able to easily unmount and safely remove them (and be informed I can remove them). I went back to xfce to see how it handled the whole thing, and it has no problems unmounting the drives. I don't have an issue for writing a shell script (or just using umount for that matter) but it is a nuisance. Mount points: Debian seems to have the choice to be able to mount the disks in either /media/[UserName]/[diskName], or depending on the modules in /media/usb[0-x] ~ where x is the count of your USB ports. I would like to upgrade to E19, but I can't get the ubuntu ppa to be recognised. Not that it is urgent. Thanks for all the advice. David + 33 6 50 14 39 34 email: david.myers.24...@gmail.com Address: 22 Rue de l'Eglise, Coupvray, 77700 (France) Ashlands, Cudham Lane North, Sevenoaks, Kent. (United Kingdom) On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Dale Snellwrote: > On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 22:48:01 +0100, in message > 56159311.7020...@silmaril.ie, Peter Flynn wrote: > > > On 07/10/15 20:45, Roy Reese wrote: > > > Is it that you do not want to mount those drives in the first > > > place, or would like to unmount them? > > > > I can'd speak for David, but I'd just like an icon to appear on my > > desktop when I insert a USB device. One I can click on to mount, > > unmount, open fileman, or whatever. Right now, e17 out of the box > > doesn't recognise anything has happened. > > > > > I know that in E19 (and I assume E17), you can set EFM to *not* > > > mount drives automatically. See Settings > File Manager > Device and > > > uncheck "Mount volumes on insertion". > > > > In e17 it's Settings > All > Files > File Manager. > > > > Setting it to mount volumes on insert does not work: when a USB stick > > is inserted, it is not mounted (at least, not in /media/). > > Perhaps e17 mounts it somewhere else. > > I don't know where Debian or Ubuntu mount hot-pluggable drives, > however, Fedora mounts them in /run/media//. I > don't know why they changed from /media to /run/media, but they > did. Perhaps Debian did the same. > > > > What I have noticed in E19 is that I can unmount external devices, > > > but not always eject them (pen drives yes; most external HDDs, no). > > > > When I first saw Eject as an option for USB drives, I thought how > > nice it would be if the socket had a spring-loaded ejecter like a > > tape drive does :-) > > I can see it now, USB memory sticks flying about the room at Very > High Speed, Indeed. Reminds me of the old DEC assembly > pseudo-instructions. Such wonderful things as Execute Programmer > Immediate, Halt And Catch Fire, and our favorite, Eject Disk > Immediate. Given the the usual disk in those days was an RK05, > which had a one-foot diameter aluminum platter spinning at 3600 > RPM, it makes for one heck of a Frizbie. :-) :-) :-) > > Ancient humor aside, I hope this helps. > > --Dale > > -- > "Have you any idea how successful censorship is on TV? Don't > know the answer? Hmm. Successful, isn't it?" -- Max Headroom > > > -- > > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive
miércoles 7 de octubre de 2015 a las 22:17 Davide Andreoli escribió: >> By the way, the Places module is constantly criticised for not playing >> nice in E, > > > I never heard about this critics... can you give me some more info? so that > I can improve the module to meet different requirements. I use it everyday in > E (without using the E fm) and I do not have any problems. I have seen posts about this in the past, perhaps in some of the fora I use. The Arch wiki simply issues a warning about non-official modules, and from time to time the AUR version would not compile properly, So perhaps I spoke too strongly. I do not that there are users who use it regularly. Mounting and unmounting works well in E19, so I haven't felt the need for the module. -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive
On 08/10/15 04:18, Dale Snell wrote: > On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 22:48:01 +0100, in message > 56159311.7020...@silmaril.ie, Peter Flynn wrote: [...] >> Setting it to mount volumes on insert does not work: when a USB stick >> is inserted, it is not mounted (at least, not in /media/). >> Perhaps e17 mounts it somewhere else. > > I don't know where Debian or Ubuntu mount hot-pluggable drives, /media/ > however, Fedora mounts them in /run/media//. It would, wouldn't it :-) > I don't know why they changed from /media to /run/media, but they > did. Gotta be different from Debian. Gotta, gotta, gotta. Sometimes they're right: RH's Apache puts your web site in /var/www/html where $deity intended it to be, not in some hole-in-the-corner place in /usr/local; after all, disks/drives/USBs/etc used all to be mounted in /mnt, which made sense (to me, at least). As the database engineer said when he saw his first XML document, "I remember when all this used to be fields" :-) ///Peter -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive
On 08/10/15 12:59, Massimo Maiurana wrote: > Peter Flynn ha scritto il 07/10/2015 alle 23:48: > >> So e17 IS recognising something happening, it's just not doing anything >> meaningful about it, which is a pity; I have to fire up Dolphin to be >> certain that I can see stuff that gets plugged in. >> > > If you enable desktop icons you will get the drive icon on the desktop, > even if you choose to not mount it or not open EFM (which requires > mounting) on it. Unfortunately, desktop icons *were* enabled. Made no difference. I just tested this to document it: I opened Settings > All > Files > File Manager, and show device icons on desktop was already checked (this is pre-set at installation). Unchecking it and clicking Apply does NOT remove the existing three pre-set icons (Root, Home, and Temp), but blinks them, and a little spinner flashes briefly at the bottom, saying "3 files". Rechecking the option and clicking Apply makes them blink again. But they do NOT disappear. Mount volumes on insert was also pre-set to checked at installation. If I tail syslog and plug in a USB stick, it is correctly detected by the system, but no mount occurs (or if it does, it's in somewhere well hidden). This seems to be why the option Open filemanager on mount fails; because the device is never mounted. ///Peter -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive
On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 22:43:43 +0100 Peter Flynnsaid: > On 08/10/15 12:59, Massimo Maiurana wrote: > > Peter Flynn ha scritto il 07/10/2015 alle 23:48: > > > >> So e17 IS recognising something happening, it's just not doing anything > >> meaningful about it, which is a pity; I have to fire up Dolphin to be > >> certain that I can see stuff that gets plugged in. > >> > > > > If you enable desktop icons you will get the drive icon on the desktop, > > even if you choose to not mount it or not open EFM (which requires > > mounting) on it. > > Unfortunately, desktop icons *were* enabled. Made no difference. > > I just tested this to document it: I opened Settings > All > Files > > File Manager, and show device icons on desktop was already checked (this > is pre-set at installation). Unchecking it and clicking Apply does NOT > remove the existing three pre-set icons (Root, Home, and Temp), but > blinks them, and a little spinner flashes briefly at the bottom, saying > "3 files". Rechecking the option and clicking Apply makes them blink > again. But they do NOT disappear. those are not device icons. they are links - that's all. device icons appear as you insert a cd, dvd into a drive, plug in a thumbdrive or usb hdd, or insert an sd card into a reader etc. they work here on arch - have worked a charm ever since i can remember. i don't know what's wrong with your system there, but it works for me. > Mount volumes on insert was also pre-set to checked at installation. If > I tail syslog and plug in a USB stick, it is correctly detected by the > system, but no mount occurs (or if it does, it's in somewhere well hidden). > > This seems to be why the option Open filemanager on mount fails; because > the device is never mounted. could it be that your packages are broken? to mount requires root access. enlightenment_sys should be setuid root to work. that is all i can imagine at this point... though you should SEE icons on plugging in a removable device as above regardless of permissions - this requires udev support and eeze support in e - is your efl and/or e compiled without this support? > ///Peter > > -- > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive
2015-10-07 21:45 GMT+02:00 Roy Reese: > miércoles 7 de octubre de 2015 a las 19:56, David Myers wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > I'm using E17 on Debian8 (jessie). > > > I've noticed that I am not able to 'unmount' usb flashdrives (or any > > other external HDD I plug into a usb port). > > > > I've read around the net that e's filemanager with auto mount and auto > > unmount drives when I open it. However I regularly use external drives, > > and don't always want (or need) to open them with e's filemanager, and > > often would like to leave my system running and my file manager open and > > still eject my disk. > > > > I've read about some 'places viewer' plugin type thing, but I can't > > find it anywhere in the repo's for debian, > > > > currently I've gone back to lxde, but miss the look and feel of > > enlightenment (ie sparse and geeky feeling), and there are a number of > > things about the desktop that made life really easy (for me). > > > > If there is anyone out there with a solution to this I would love to > > know it, but for now it is a bit of a show stopper for me. > > > > thanks in advance. > > > > David > > > Hi David, > > Is it that you do not want to mount those drives in the first place, or > would like to unmount them? > > I know that in E19 (and I assume E17), you can set EFM to *not* mount > drives automatically. See Settings > File Manager > Device and uncheck > "Mount volumes on insertion". > > What I have noticed in E19 is that I can unmount external devices, but not > always eject them (pen drives yes; most external HDDs, no). > > If you are unable to unmount them in Debian (I'm on Manjaro), there are > two options. First, perhaps someone could suggest a simple bash script that > would work the magic outside of EFM. Second, simply use another FM. EFM is > not the greatest FM around (and intolerably slow on a 32-bit machine until > about 6 months ago) and there are a lot of good ones out there. I have used > DoubleCommander for over a year in part because it automatically mounts the > Win partitions on my dual-boot machine -- and I love the dual pane > managers. SpaceFM is similar and much lighter. You can also install LXDE's > PCmanFM or XFCE's Thunar. (The irony in all these suggestions is that > although I now sometimes use EFM, I have mostly kept it active for mounting > and unmounting external drives!) > > By the way, the Places module is constantly criticised for not playing > nice in E, I never heard about this critics... can you give me some more info? so that I can improve the module to meet different requirements. I use it everyday in E (without using the E fm) and I do not have any problems. > so Debian may not have elected to include in in the repositories. > > I hope some of these ramblings help. > > Best, > Roy > > > -- > Full-scale, agent-less Infrastructure Monitoring from a single dashboard > Integrate with 40+ ManageEngine ITSM Solutions for complete visibility > Physical-Virtual-Cloud Infrastructure monitoring from one console > Real user monitoring with APM Insights and performance trend reports > Learn More > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=247754911=/4140 > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- Full-scale, agent-less Infrastructure Monitoring from a single dashboard Integrate with 40+ ManageEngine ITSM Solutions for complete visibility Physical-Virtual-Cloud Infrastructure monitoring from one console Real user monitoring with APM Insights and performance trend reports Learn More http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=247754911=/4140 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive
On 07/10/15 20:45, Roy Reese wrote: > Is it that you do not want to mount those drives in the first place, or would > like to unmount them? I can'd speak for David, but I'd just like an icon to appear on my desktop when I insert a USB device. One I can click on to mount, unmount, open fileman, or whatever. Right now, e17 out of the box doesn't recognise anything has happened. > I know that in E19 (and I assume E17), you can set EFM to *not* mount > drives automatically. See Settings > File Manager > Device and > uncheck "Mount volumes on insertion". In e17 it's Settings > All > Files > File Manager. Setting it to mount volumes on insert does not work: when a USB stick is inserted, it is not mounted (at least, not in /media/). Perhaps e17 mounts it somewhere else. Setting it to open file manager on insert also does nothing. File manager does not run when a USB stick is inserted. However, when I UNclick open file manager on insert and then click Apply, a little spinner flashes up briefly in the bottom LH corner of the screen. So e17 IS recognising something happening, it's just not doing anything meaningful about it, which is a pity; I have to fire up Dolphin to be certain that I can see stuff that gets plugged in. I'm running e17 on Xubuntu 14.04.3 LTS > What I have noticed in E19 is that I can unmount external devices, > but not always eject them (pen drives yes; most external HDDs, no). When I first saw Eject as an option for USB drives, I thought how nice it would be if the socket had a spring-loaded ejecter like a tape drive does :-) ///Peter -- Full-scale, agent-less Infrastructure Monitoring from a single dashboard Integrate with 40+ ManageEngine ITSM Solutions for complete visibility Physical-Virtual-Cloud Infrastructure monitoring from one console Real user monitoring with APM Insights and performance trend reports Learn More http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=247754911=/4140 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive
On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 22:48:01 +0100, in message 56159311.7020...@silmaril.ie, Peter Flynn wrote: > On 07/10/15 20:45, Roy Reese wrote: > > Is it that you do not want to mount those drives in the first > > place, or would like to unmount them? > > I can'd speak for David, but I'd just like an icon to appear on my > desktop when I insert a USB device. One I can click on to mount, > unmount, open fileman, or whatever. Right now, e17 out of the box > doesn't recognise anything has happened. > > > I know that in E19 (and I assume E17), you can set EFM to *not* > > mount drives automatically. See Settings > File Manager > Device and > > uncheck "Mount volumes on insertion". > > In e17 it's Settings > All > Files > File Manager. > > Setting it to mount volumes on insert does not work: when a USB stick > is inserted, it is not mounted (at least, not in /media/). > Perhaps e17 mounts it somewhere else. I don't know where Debian or Ubuntu mount hot-pluggable drives, however, Fedora mounts them in /run/media//. I don't know why they changed from /media to /run/media, but they did. Perhaps Debian did the same. > > What I have noticed in E19 is that I can unmount external devices, > > but not always eject them (pen drives yes; most external HDDs, no). > > When I first saw Eject as an option for USB drives, I thought how > nice it would be if the socket had a spring-loaded ejecter like a > tape drive does :-) I can see it now, USB memory sticks flying about the room at Very High Speed, Indeed. Reminds me of the old DEC assembly pseudo-instructions. Such wonderful things as Execute Programmer Immediate, Halt And Catch Fire, and our favorite, Eject Disk Immediate. Given the the usual disk in those days was an RK05, which had a one-foot diameter aluminum platter spinning at 3600 RPM, it makes for one heck of a Frizbie. :-) :-) :-) Ancient humor aside, I hope this helps. --Dale -- "Have you any idea how successful censorship is on TV? Don't know the answer? Hmm. Successful, isn't it?" -- Max Headroom -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive
2015-10-07 19:56 GMT+02:00 David Myers: > Hello all, > > I'm using E17 on Debian8 (jessie). > > I've noticed that I am not able to 'unmount' usb flashdrives (or any > other external HDD I plug into a usb port). > > I've read around the net that e's filemanager with auto mount and auto > unmount drives when I open it. However I regularly use external drives, > and don't always want (or need) to open them with e's filemanager, and > often would like to leave my system running and my file manager open and > still eject my disk. > > I've read about some 'places viewer' plugin type thing, but I can't > find it anywhere in the repo's for debian, > You are searching for the places module: https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/emodules/places/ It let you mount/unmount volumes at your wish. Dunno if there are precompiled debs, but you should be able to build it from source (using the enlightenment-0.17 branch) > > currently I've gone back to lxde, but miss the look and feel of > enlightenment (ie sparse and geeky feeling), and there are a number of > things about the desktop that made life really easy (for me). > > If there is anyone out there with a solution to this I would love to > know it, but for now it is a bit of a show stopper for me. > > > thanks in advance. > > David > > > -- > >+ 33 6 50 14 39 34 > > email: > david.myers.24...@gmail.com > > Address: > 22 Rue de l'Eglise, Coupvray, 77700 (France) > > Ashlands, Cudham Lane North, Sevenoaks, Kent. (United Kingdom) > > > > -- > Full-scale, agent-less Infrastructure Monitoring from a single dashboard > Integrate with 40+ ManageEngine ITSM Solutions for complete visibility > Physical-Virtual-Cloud Infrastructure monitoring from one console > Real user monitoring with APM Insights and performance trend reports > Learn More > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=247754911=/4140 > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- Full-scale, agent-less Infrastructure Monitoring from a single dashboard Integrate with 40+ ManageEngine ITSM Solutions for complete visibility Physical-Virtual-Cloud Infrastructure monitoring from one console Real user monitoring with APM Insights and performance trend reports Learn More http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=247754911=/4140 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2015 18:56:36 David Myers wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm using E17 on Debian8 (jessie). > > I've noticed that I am not able to 'unmount' usb flashdrives (or any > other external HDD I plug into a usb port). > > I've read around the net that e's filemanager with auto mount and auto > unmount drives when I open it. However I regularly use external drives, > and don't always want (or need) to open them with e's filemanager, and > often would like to leave my system running and my file manager open and > still eject my disk. > > I've read about some 'places viewer' plugin type thing, but I can't > find it anywhere in the repo's for debian, > > currently I've gone back to lxde, but miss the look and feel of > enlightenment (ie sparse and geeky feeling), and there are a number of > things about the desktop that made life really easy (for me). > > If there is anyone out there with a solution to this I would love to > know it, but for now it is a bit of a show stopper for me. > > > thanks in advance. > > David Have a look at this thread - in two parts: http://sourceforge.net/p/enlightenment/mailman/enlightenment-users/thread/CACEbyX3xjauqccaqrtA6m9CdGb72bEEpqQr3jOJ1O1FVChNDvg%40mail.gmail.com/#msg34479487 http://sourceforge.net/p/enlightenment/mailman/enlightenment-users/thread/20150922121721.3a0f314b64db555e495ed26c%40rasterman.com/#msg34479757 Current build from trunk should have been fixed. -- Regards, Mick -- Full-scale, agent-less Infrastructure Monitoring from a single dashboard Integrate with 40+ ManageEngine ITSM Solutions for complete visibility Physical-Virtual-Cloud Infrastructure monitoring from one console Real user monitoring with APM Insights and performance trend reports Learn More http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=247754911=/4140___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive
miércoles 7 de octubre de 2015 a las 19:56, David Myers wrote: > Hello all, > I'm using E17 on Debian8 (jessie). > I've noticed that I am not able to 'unmount' usb flashdrives (or any > other external HDD I plug into a usb port). > > I've read around the net that e's filemanager with auto mount and auto > unmount drives when I open it. However I regularly use external drives, > and don't always want (or need) to open them with e's filemanager, and > often would like to leave my system running and my file manager open and > still eject my disk. > > I've read about some 'places viewer' plugin type thing, but I can't > find it anywhere in the repo's for debian, > > currently I've gone back to lxde, but miss the look and feel of > enlightenment (ie sparse and geeky feeling), and there are a number of > things about the desktop that made life really easy (for me). > > If there is anyone out there with a solution to this I would love to > know it, but for now it is a bit of a show stopper for me. > > thanks in advance. > > David Hi David, Is it that you do not want to mount those drives in the first place, or would like to unmount them? I know that in E19 (and I assume E17), you can set EFM to *not* mount drives automatically. See Settings > File Manager > Device and uncheck "Mount volumes on insertion". What I have noticed in E19 is that I can unmount external devices, but not always eject them (pen drives yes; most external HDDs, no). If you are unable to unmount them in Debian (I'm on Manjaro), there are two options. First, perhaps someone could suggest a simple bash script that would work the magic outside of EFM. Second, simply use another FM. EFM is not the greatest FM around (and intolerably slow on a 32-bit machine until about 6 months ago) and there are a lot of good ones out there. I have used DoubleCommander for over a year in part because it automatically mounts the Win partitions on my dual-boot machine -- and I love the dual pane managers. SpaceFM is similar and much lighter. You can also install LXDE's PCmanFM or XFCE's Thunar. (The irony in all these suggestions is that although I now sometimes use EFM, I have mostly kept it active for mounting and unmounting external drives!) By the way, the Places module is constantly criticised for not playing nice in E, so Debian may not have elected to include in in the repositories. I hope some of these ramblings help. Best, Roy -- Full-scale, agent-less Infrastructure Monitoring from a single dashboard Integrate with 40+ ManageEngine ITSM Solutions for complete visibility Physical-Virtual-Cloud Infrastructure monitoring from one console Real user monitoring with APM Insights and performance trend reports Learn More http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=247754911=/4140 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users