Re: [eug-lug] How much of the documentation on the Koppix 3.2 CD isin German

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Crandell
You can run the English version by pressing F2 at the splash screen when it pauses for Help then typing knoppix lang=en (or something like that). Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: BAGGAB wrote: I started moving around the CD and I am running into German. My German is rusty. I know I can

Re: [eug-lug] Thanks for the update on Firewire and USB 2.0 functionality

2003-06-04 Thread Rodney Mishima
Joseph, Thanks for sharing with me your insights. At 09:23 PM 6/2/2003 -0700, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:03:47PM -0700, Rodney Mishima wrote: From my experience, Firewire always works, even in Windows. It only mostly works in Linux.

Re: [eug-lug]burning MP3 CDs

2003-06-04 Thread Dave Wyatt
This works great for a list but the sort is not happening when the image is created. I even tried without including the path. I'm beginning to think I should append a number to the beginning of the filename so it will create the image in the order I want and get it over with. Still, I would like

Re: [eug-lug]burning MP3 CDs

2003-06-04 Thread Dave Wyatt
Thanks Larry, been there done that. I get the list I want but the image is still written in a sorted by filename order. Just can't seem to get the sort option in mkisofs to work. Dave --- Larry Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or use the -t option for ls ls -t ~/foo in the directory of

[eug-lug]Die Die My Darling

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Crandell
Hi, I have a server with some processes that are running away and they won't die. How do I stop them? I used: ps axf to see the forest for the trees. procmail was fired off by sendmail to filter some SPAM. I can stop sendmail but procmail won't stop. Killall procmail doesn't work. Killall -9

Re: [eug-lug]Die Die My Darling

2003-06-04 Thread Patrick R. Wade
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 03:20:19PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Hi, I have a server with some processes that are running away and they won't die. How do I stop them? I used: ps axf to see the forest for the trees. procmail was fired off by sendmail to filter some SPAM. I can stop sendmail but

Re: [eug-lug]wierd TV card / boot problems

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Miller
Mr O wrote: No resolution yet. The one good thing about this machine is I can have a new kernel in under 5 minutes so I've been trying about everything kernel related as well as other files. What happens if you boot a perfectly generic kernel, say, a KNOPPIX CD (-: ? If the KNOPPIX CD won't

Re: [eug-lug]Linux at LCC

2003-06-04 Thread Ken Barber
On Sunday 01 June 2003 03:17, Joseph Carter wrote: The lab fees are for the drives then. I doubt it. The lab fee breakdown on my Course Information Sheet mentions $2 for photocopying and $50 for staff time. Apparenlty they assume that I'm going to make $2 worth of photocopies per student

Re: [eug-lug]Linux at LCC

2003-06-04 Thread Rob Hudson
As for me, those lab fees are keeping me from being interested. I know it's out of your hands, but I'd really consider taking the class but can't afford it. -Rob On 20030603.1132, Ken Barber said ... On Sunday 01 June 2003 03:17, Joseph Carter wrote: The lab fees are for the drives then.

Re: [eug-lug]Kucinich

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Miller
E wrote: Which brings me to my first point. I brought this up once before, and will again, the fact that there is an overwhelming amount of mail from this list because all replies are always sent to the entire list. I setup my own mailman lists to reply to the sender only (the default). One

Re: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-04 Thread Ben Barrett
Well said!! Thank you, Ken. ciao, Ben B PS - my early linux experiences were similar: I used the twenty-some slackware floppies, and couldn't get X going... in '94. Used OS/2 v2 (pre-warp) back then and didn't realize how 'nix-based it was. REXX, also, which I still see around (check

Re: [eug-lug]wierd TV card / boot problems

2003-06-04 Thread Ben Barrett
Is your actual video card an AGP type, or PCI? (If PCI, is it being slot-swapped when you add or remove the tuner card?) regards, BB (and I agree that some boot-CD stock kernels might help you troubleshoot, I have two different business card CD's we could try in addition to knoppix; I hope

Re: [eug-lug]Linux at LCC

2003-06-04 Thread Roger
Around Tue,Jun 03 2003, at 11:32, Ken Barber, wrote: On Sunday 01 June 2003 03:17, Joseph Carter wrote: The lab fees are for the drives then. I doubt it. The lab fee breakdown on my Course Information Sheet mentions $2 for photocopying and $50 for staff time. Apparenlty they assume that

Re: [eug-lug]burning MP3 CDs

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Miller
Dave Wyatt wrote: This works great for a list but the sort is not happening when the image is created. I even tried without including the path. I'm beginning to think I should append a number to the beginning of the filename so it will create the image in the order I want and get it over

Re: [eug-lug]Die Die My Darling

2003-06-04 Thread Larry Price
What state is procmail in (wait,select, ???) It's not trying to write to an unreachable file or something? On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 08:20 AM, Bob Crandell wrote: Hi, I have a server with some processes that are running away and they won't die. How do I stop them? I used: ps axf to see

[eug-lug]Mission accomplished

2003-06-04 Thread BAGGAB
After our discussion about distros I have implemented this solution. Loaded Koppix 3.2 and Red Hat 8.0 in dual boot config. Conclusion: this is a balance between two ends of the spectrum of Linux distros (for me the novice.) On going problems: sound card not working under either (worked under

Re: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-04 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:43:21AM -0700, Ken Barber wrote: When you get into a religious war over distros, remember that ALL of Linux is looked down upon by the BSD folks. So be careful. With an attitude like that, what do you expect? Be careful of what you manifest. I haven't seen Red

Re: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-04 Thread Kent Loobey
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 11:13 pm, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:43:21AM -0700, Ken Barber wrote: When you get into a religious war over distros, remember that ALL of Linux is looked down upon by the BSD folks. So be careful. With an attitude like that, what do you expect?

[eug-lug]Fun with Routers

2003-06-04 Thread BAGGAB
I have been playing with my Koppix / RH dual boot. I finally concluded that the SMC Barricade router I am using is confusing the networking setup under Linux. Example: modem works fine till I hook up the router; then OS looks to router rather then modem. Setup: 2 PC's and a common KVM switch, 4

[eug-lug]SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT: June PLUG Meeting

2003-06-04 Thread David Mandel
MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT The Portland Linux/Unix Group will meet 7 PM Thursday June 5, 2003 at Portland State University

Re: [eug-lug]Fun with Routers

2003-06-04 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 03:11:47PM -0700, BAGGAB wrote: I have been playing with my Koppix / RH dual boot. It's spelled knoppix and pronounced k-nop-ix. I finally concluded that the SMC Barricade router I am using is confusing the networking setup under Linux. Example: modem works fine

[eug-lug]O'Reilly Open Source Convention

2003-06-04 Thread David Mandel
I'm about to send out a couple postings relating to O'Reilly Open Source Convention, but first I want to remind people that O'Reilly Open Source Convention will be July 7-11, 2003 at The Portland

[eug-lug]PLUG/MWVLUG/ELUG Booth at O'Reilly Open Source Convention

2003-06-04 Thread David Mandel
I'm talking with O'Reilly about having a booth at the O'Reilly Open Source Convention. I haven't thought about the details yet, but I was thinking about a joint booth for PLUG, MWVLUG, and ELUG; unless MWVLUG and ELUG were thinking about doing something on their own. As I said, I haven't

Re: [eug-lug]Fun with Routers

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Crandell
Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 03:11:47PM -0700, BAGGAB wrote: I have been playing with my Koppix / RH dual boot. It's spelled knoppix and pronounced k-nop-ix. I finally concluded that the SMC Barricade router I am using is confusing the networking setup

Re: [eug-lug]Die Die My Darling

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Crandell
I don't know what state it was in accept that it looked normal. Is 'S' select? An unreachable file? Hmm. How would I check that? There is a user there that can't leave well enough alone. Any clue how to kill it? Thanks Larry Price ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What state is procmail in

[eug-lug]Volunteers needed for O'Reilly Open Source Convention

2003-06-04 Thread David Mandel
O'Reilly needs 20 volunteers to help with the O'Reilly Open Source Convention on July 7-11, 2003. Actually, they need ten volunteers to work on Wednesday and ten volunteers to work on Thursday; and they will give all 20 volunteers passes to the main conference (Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday

RE: [eug-lug]Fun with Routers

2003-06-04 Thread BAGGAB
Cory The SMC Barricade does have setting for dialing out to an ISP (that is: you can set the user name, password, and other controls in the router) through an UI that is brought up on a browser. Its pretty full featured. I will look over what you wrote. I am certain that static IPs are the

Re: [eug-lug]OK, Ken I'll take that challenge

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Miller
Kent Loobey wrote: Maybe I was just dreaming once, but I think I remember some kind of changes RedHat made to gcc that caused binary imcompatabilities with other Linux distros. Yep. you are dreaming. The problem was that they implemented a version of gcc ahead of it's time. It

Re: [eug-lug]Mission accomplished

2003-06-04 Thread Linux Rocks !
A quick fix to the sound. as root try: modprobe sb sb is the generic SoundBlaster module, it works with many cards. To get sound working with your sound card, you will first need to know which sound card it is, then either load the module for it, or re-compile your kernel with support for that

[eug-lug]I got the router working!!!

2003-06-04 Thread BAGGAB
Thank you all! I had to fiddle a bit, but its pinging. Ya! Novice finds nirvana in networking ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug

Fwd: Re: [eug-lug]... why I'm using a Gentoo Live CD on PPC!

2003-06-04 Thread Linux Rocks !
-- Seriously, the way I did this was by using a special /sbin/loader binary with debugging hooks that I made (dd is your friend: binary editors are for wimps). -- Linus Torvalds, in an article on a dnserver ---BeginMessage--- On Tuesday 03 June 2003 11:24 am, Ben Barrett wrote: : Well,

RE: [eug-lug]Mission accomplished

2003-06-04 Thread BAGGAB
Jamie Its an on-board type card. My two Motherboards are very similar MSI boards. The soundcard is something like a crystal fusion. One board works fine under RH 8.0, the other board sees the card but no sound (tried turning on the sound server, ect.) I would like to get the sound working so I

Re: [eug-lug]Mission accomplished

2003-06-04 Thread Linux Rocks !
Brian, So... you can use lsmod to see what modules are loaded, doing this on the redhat machine should give you a clue as to what module to load for your card. Alternatively the sb module may work also. You may also want to have it load on boot, under slackware there is a file named

Re: [eug-lug]... why I'm using a Gentoo Live CD on PPC!

2003-06-04 Thread Jamie
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 11:24 am, Ben Barrett wrote: : Well, if I had a PPC machine I would. It looks like someone at OSU is : behind this: : http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/releases/ppc/livecd/1.4_rc7/ : http://www.gentoo.org/images/shots/ppc-livecd/snapshot1.jpg : and obligatory source of

[eug-lug]Re: [PLUG] PLUG/MWVLUG/ELUG Booth at O'Reilly Open SourceConvention

2003-06-04 Thread Robby Russell
As you may recall, PDXLUG has been working on the details for their booth for a while now. We are still looking for people to man the booth. http://www.pdxlug.org/ the other portland lug...that you may not of known about. On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 19:21, David Mandel wrote: I'm talking with

Re: [eug-lug]Mission accomplished

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Miller
BAGGAB wrote: Its an on-board type card. My two Motherboards are very similar MSI boards. The soundcard is something like a crystal fusion. Look at the output from lspci. It will tell you what kind of sound card/chip you have. For example, on three different machines I have access to, lspci

Re: [eug-lug]Mission accomplished

2003-06-04 Thread Mr O
Mulitmedia - the ability to handle more than one media at a time? Any good sound card can handle quite a few jobs at once. Besides offering up sound while playing music, a game, and a video all at once, you also have such things as the joystick port and recording via the mic jack. :) I know, I'm a

Re: [eug-lug]wierd TV card / boot problems

2003-06-04 Thread Mr O
BIOS. I shutdown, removed the card, booted off a current Knoppix. All worked well there. Dropped into the BIOS, tweaked some settings (including Primary Display = AGP). I think that may have done the trick. It probably got kicked to Primary as PCI when I flashed the BIOS. Thanks y'all for your

Re: [eug-lug]emerge -u sleep

2003-06-04 Thread Jack Morgan
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 12:21:21PM -0700, Bob Miller wrote: Joseph Carter wrote: emerge sync emerge -Dpuv world emerge -Dfu world emerge -Du world In about that order. In English, that would be: emerge sync emerge --deep --pretend --update --verbose world

[eug-lug]Another Gentoo install

2003-06-04 Thread Mr O
Distcc really is a great tool for building a Gentoo system. By splitting the workload over two computers I've managed to have a completely functional system with X and Fluxbox in less than 24 hours. Started with a Stage 3 tarball. I currently have the 1.4rc4 image with the 3 stages available if

[eug-lug]call me crazy

2003-06-04 Thread Mr O
I think I just may try something nuts. Just wondering ahead of time though... Does the KNOPPIX CD allow me to create files for services such as NFS, SAMBA, and perhaps a raidtab? The boot drive in my fileserver finally crapped out and I'm not up for installing on another small old hard drive if I