Re: [eug-lug]gentoo install problems
Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > SNIP > > Also, I wouldn't recommend gentoo for a laptop. Long compiling times will heat > up the laptop more than it was designed for. > > Cory > Folding makes it hot too. ;> -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Mouse scroll wheel stoped working after 2.6 kernel upgrade
I have the same situation with my laptop except it's kernel 2.6.0. The ZAxisMapping was missing from XF86Config and I added it back in. Still no joy. Keep us posted. I was just getting ready to upgrade the kernel on my desktop when I saw your message. Now I'm going to wait. Thanks jgw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Stats: > - Fresh Slackware 9.1 install (w/ patches) > - Kernel 2.6.4 with usb mouse support > - ASUS A7V600 mobo > - Dropline GNOME > > When I was using the 2.4.24 kernel, I added the ZAxisMapping option to my > XF86Config and my usb mouse's (Microsoft optical mouse) scroll wheel > worked fine in X/GNOME. I upgraded to 2.6.4 and now the scroll wheel > doesn't work, although my mouse does. Googled, tried killing gpm, still a > no go. > > Any ideas on what avenues to explore next? Are there any hidden > scrollwheel options in the kernel config I'm missing? > > /jgw > > ___ > EuG-LUG mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug] I guess I mean "Defragmentation"- Programs&Need for?
Here is one Googled response: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/1/2003/10/4/93224 Harald Sundt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > As per subject line. Forgive my weak SysAdmin skills > > > ;) > ___ > EuG-LUG mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward
T. Joseph Carter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 08:53:02PM +0000, Bob Crandell wrote: > > > Dropping the X-Spam-Status header requires that you do a bunch of pipes. > > > > > > Just sending the message on would be > > > > > > :0<--- no need to lock > > > * ^X-Spam-Status:.*Yes<--- technically you should have .* not " " > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <--- isn't that easy? =) > > > > > > ___ > > It looks easy. What's the catch? ;^> > > > > I'm dense. So > > * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes > > becomes > > * not " " > > X-Spam-Status:Yes > X-Spam-Status: Yes > etc > > Since you know the only program to define something as spam in this manner > is spamassasin, you can probably leave it. However, it will only match if > that space is there and there's only one. Safer to look for the header > and for the word "yes" in it. This is a regex after all, though it is by > default a case-insensitive one. > > > > There are no local users so 'other' needs to be a variable that I can attach > > to the front of @there.com so it will be delivered to the proper mailbox on > > the other server. Does Procmail have that stored? > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > BTW, the Milter is no longer incommunicado. It is happily fitering away. I > > would prefer doing it with Procmail because it will almost work out of the > > box. > > Why are you trying to forward all spam to users' accounts at another box? > > ___ I'm marking spam and passing all mail on to their server where the users collect their mail, and sort it based on "spam" on the subject line. -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward
T. Joseph Carter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 04:42:26PM +0000, Bob Crandell wrote: > > I'm having trouble getting Sendmail to understand I want it to talk to > > SpamassMilter. In poking around looking for an answer, I got to thinking that > > Procmail is already filtering the way I want. How do I have Procmail forward > > this filtered email to another box in the same domain? > > > > This section sends mail to a folder: > > :0: > > * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes > > $HOME/mail/caughtspam > > > > Can > > $HOME/mail/caughtspam > > be changed to: > > forwardto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Dropping > > * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes > > of course. > > > > What's the correct syntax for: > > forwardto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Dropping the X-Spam-Status header requires that you do a bunch of pipes. > > Just sending the message on would be > > :0<--- no need to lock > * ^X-Spam-Status:.*Yes<--- technically you should have .* not " " > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <--- isn't that easy? =) > > ___ It looks easy. What's the catch? ;^> I'm dense. So * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes becomes * not " " There are no local users so 'other' needs to be a variable that I can attach to the front of @there.com so it will be delivered to the proper mailbox on the other server. Does Procmail have that stored? [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, the Milter is no longer incommunicado. It is happily fitering away. I would prefer doing it with Procmail because it will almost work out of the box. Thanks -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward
I'm having trouble getting Sendmail to understand I want it to talk to SpamassMilter. In poking around looking for an answer, I got to thinking that Procmail is already filtering the way I want. How do I have Procmail forward this filtered email to another box in the same domain? This section sends mail to a folder: :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes $HOME/mail/caughtspam Can $HOME/mail/caughtspam be changed to: forwardto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dropping * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes of course. What's the correct syntax for: forwardto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Bob Larry Price ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > there is a milter to call spamassassin > > On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 07:44 AM, Bob Crandell wrote: > > > It's amazing how great minds think alike. This is exactly what I'm > > trying to > > do. What I'm not sure of is the how to part. How to have this > > intermediate > > box filter mail without having to create users. > > > > Ok, I don't need Procmail. How do I call SpamAssassin directly from > > Sendmail? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > John Sechrest ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> > >> > >> You can always use an intermediate spam filter on an intermediate > >> machine. > >> > >> You first need to set up a linux/unix box with spam assasin on it as > >> you want. > >> Then you need to set the system up to deliver to the exchange server. > >> Then you want to set the MX records for the domain of the exchange > >> system > >> to point at the linux/unix box. > >> > >> This is how we seperate the FrontEnd mail server from the BackEnd > >> mail servers. > >> > >> The front end has the RBL code in it, and spam assassin and the > >> Milter rules. > >> > >> You don't use procmail, because you are not delivering to a mail box. > >> You > >> use the initial spam filtering tools. > >> > >> If there are things in procmail, which you can't write in sendmail, > >> then you can force it to process the messages. But almost everything > >> that I would put into procmail is better put into the sendmail rules > >> on the front end box. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "Bob Crandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> % Hi, > >> % > >> % One of my clients is asking for a SPAM filter for his Exchange > >> server. No > >> % wise cracks. He's stuck and he knows it. > >> % > >> % What I was planning on putting in was > >> Sendmail/Procmail/SpamAssassin store and > >> % forward mail server. My question is can I and how do I do this > >> without > >> % creating users on the mail server? > >> % > >> % Thanks > >> % Bob > >> % > >> % -- > >> % Assured Computing, Inc. > >> % When you need to be sure. > >> % http://www.assuredcomp.com/ > >> % P.O. Box 40814 > >> % Eugene, OR 97404 > >> % Voice - 541-868-0331 > >> % FAX - 541-463-1627 > >> % > >> % > >> % ___ > >> % EuG-LUG mailing list > >> % [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> % http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > >> > >> - > >> John Sechrest . Helping people use > >> . computers and the Internet > >> .more effectively > >> . > >> . Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> . > >> . > >> http://www.peak.org/~sechrest > >> ___ > >> EuG-LUG mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > >> > > > > -- > > Assured Computing, Inc. > > When you need to be sure. > > http://www.assuredcomp.com/ > > P.O. Box 40814 > > Eugene, OR 97404 > > Voice - 541-868-0331 > > FAX - 541-463-1627 > > > > > > ___ > > EuG-LUG mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > > > > > you > capturing runaway bulldozers:once is chance, twice coincidence, > ... > > ___ > EuG-LUG mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward
Have you configured spamass-milter? I've read through some of the docs and it makes me feel dense. Thanks Larry Price ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > there is a milter to call spamassassin > > On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 07:44 AM, Bob Crandell wrote: > > > It's amazing how great minds think alike. This is exactly what I'm > > trying to > > do. What I'm not sure of is the how to part. How to have this > > intermediate > > box filter mail without having to create users. > > > > Ok, I don't need Procmail. How do I call SpamAssassin directly from > > Sendmail? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > John Sechrest ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> > >> > >> You can always use an intermediate spam filter on an intermediate > >> machine. > >> > >> You first need to set up a linux/unix box with spam assasin on it as > >> you want. > >> Then you need to set the system up to deliver to the exchange server. > >> Then you want to set the MX records for the domain of the exchange > >> system > >> to point at the linux/unix box. > >> > >> This is how we seperate the FrontEnd mail server from the BackEnd > >> mail servers. > >> > >> The front end has the RBL code in it, and spam assassin and the > >> Milter rules. > >> > >> You don't use procmail, because you are not delivering to a mail box. > >> You > >> use the initial spam filtering tools. > >> > >> If there are things in procmail, which you can't write in sendmail, > >> then you can force it to process the messages. But almost everything > >> that I would put into procmail is better put into the sendmail rules > >> on the front end box. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "Bob Crandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> % Hi, > >> % > >> % One of my clients is asking for a SPAM filter for his Exchange > >> server. No > >> % wise cracks. He's stuck and he knows it. > >> % > >> % What I was planning on putting in was > >> Sendmail/Procmail/SpamAssassin store and > >> % forward mail server. My question is can I and how do I do this > >> without > >> % creating users on the mail server? > >> % > >> % Thanks > >> % Bob > >> % > >> % -- > >> % Assured Computing, Inc. > >> % When you need to be sure. > >> % http://www.assuredcomp.com/ > >> % P.O. Box 40814 > >> % Eugene, OR 97404 > >> % Voice - 541-868-0331 > >> % FAX - 541-463-1627 > >> % > >> % > >> % ___ > >> % EuG-LUG mailing list > >> % [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> % http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > >> > >> - > >> John Sechrest . Helping people use > >> . computers and the Internet > >> .more effectively > >> . > >> . Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> . > >> . > >> http://www.peak.org/~sechrest > >> ___ > >> EuG-LUG mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > >> > > > > -- > > Assured Computing, Inc. > > When you need to be sure. > > http://www.assuredcomp.com/ > > P.O. Box 40814 > > Eugene, OR 97404 > > Voice - 541-868-0331 > > FAX - 541-463-1627 > > > > > > ___ > > EuG-LUG mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > > > > > you > capturing runaway bulldozers:once is chance, twice coincidence, > ... > > ___ > EuG-LUG mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward
Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 10:28:48PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: > > 1) Postfix+amavisd-new+spamassassin on one server > > 2) default exchange 5.5 on another server > > 3) script that dumps ldap entries from exchange to a text file that postfix > > reads. > > > > Easy as one, two, three. > > Bob, I'm actually in the process of setting up this exact system for one of my > clients in portland. I'm setting it up with the above plus software mirroring > and service monitoring. I made my own Mon alert to restart services if they > fail. > > Cory > Another client with a Novell server is going to want this too. That's part of the reason I was hoping for a solution that didn't require user names on the filter. What does your Mon alert look like? Bob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward
What he said. Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:48:20AM -0800, Jason wrote: > > Maybe a dumb question, but why does the customer want > > a separate box vs. installing something like netiq's > > mailmarshal right on the Exchange box? > > The customer probably wants a solution, not necessarily a separate box. How > much does mailmarshall cost? I tried to find out, but apparently it costs too > much to put the price tag on the website. > > > Is the Exchange box the mx? (I hope not) Is this > > solution being planned for the mx? This is what I'd > > tend to recommend (anti-spam on either the mx or the > > Exchange box), since I don't see a reason to add > > another box to the mix (unless they have a ton of mail > > traffic). > > Here we are, $630 for 100 email boxes > $230 for a 1 year upgrade plan for same. > $65 for 1 year of tech support > > That price isn't bad, but I'd choose a separate box for the same reasons: > - Because of more control, I find it more convenient to work in a unix > environment. A client isn't going to work on it either way, so it doesn't > matter to them. > - Extended licensing costs are dollars they can pay me. They are likely going > to pay me the same either way, commercial or OSS, so why not save them some > money. > - OSS is open source, completely trouble-shootable, free, Free, etc > - Upgrades are free. > - Additional mailboxes are free. > - I can easily and quickly make the box a secure webserver too, add webmail > for another hour. Want bar graphs of your internet traffic? > - I can set it up or troubleshoot it remotely and securely with the default > setup over a slow internet connection. You can do most of that with windows, > but not all four. > > Cory > > EuG-LUG mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward
I'm wanting a stand alone box more than he is. The Exchange server is SBS 2000 and is barely keeping up. My goal is to use them as a test bed to build a generic box that I can clone and plug into anybody's site and have it "just work". The Exchange box is the mx. The spam filter is to become the mx. Thanks Jason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Maybe a dumb question, but why does the customer want > a separate box vs. installing something like netiq's > mailmarshal right on the Exchange box? > > Is the Exchange box the mx? (I hope not) Is this > solution being planned for the mx? This is what I'd > tend to recommend (anti-spam on either the mx or the > Exchange box), since I don't see a reason to add > another box to the mix (unless they have a ton of mail > traffic). > > J > --- Bob Crandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 11:02:39PM +, Bob > > Crandell wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > One of my clients is asking for a SPAM filter > > for his Exchange server. No > > > > wise cracks. He's stuck and he knows it. > > > > > > > > What I was planning on putting in was > > Sendmail/Procmail/SpamAssassin store and > > > > forward mail server. My question is can I and > > how do I do this without > > > > creating users on the mail server? > > > Bob, I've done it with exchange/postfix. > > > With my setup, Postfix accepts email only for > > users found on the exchange > > > server. New account? Add it in exchange. > > Postfix will use ldap, or one > > > can have a script that dumps ldap to a hash file > > for postfix. LDAP is built > > > in to exchange. > > > > > > Cory > > > > > > EuG-LUG mailing list > > Hi, > > > > I don't have LDAP installed anywhere. So what > > you're saying is I need to > > install the users on the spam filter box in order > > for it to filter the mail > > that passes through it? Not a big deal but I was > > hoping against it. > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > Assured Computing, Inc. > > When you need to be sure. > > http://www.assuredcomp.com/ > > P.O. Box 40814 > > Eugene, OR 97404 > > Voice - 541-868-0331 > > FAX - 541-463-1627 > > > > > > ___ > > EuG-LUG mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster > http://search.yahoo.com > ___ > EuG-LUG mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > > -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward
Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 11:02:39PM +0000, Bob Crandell wrote: > > Hi, > > > > One of my clients is asking for a SPAM filter for his Exchange server. No > > wise cracks. He's stuck and he knows it. > > > > What I was planning on putting in was Sendmail/Procmail/SpamAssassin store and > > forward mail server. My question is can I and how do I do this without > > creating users on the mail server? > Bob, I've done it with exchange/postfix. > With my setup, Postfix accepts email only for users found on the exchange > server. New account? Add it in exchange. Postfix will use ldap, or one > can have a script that dumps ldap to a hash file for postfix. LDAP is built > in to exchange. > > Cory > > EuG-LUG mailing list Hi, I don't have LDAP installed anywhere. So what you're saying is I need to install the users on the spam filter box in order for it to filter the mail that passes through it? Not a big deal but I was hoping against it. Thanks -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]clearing out old gnomes
Well, actually, wouldn't it be better to just find where Gnome keeps the settings that we can't find and fix that? Larry Price ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > you might want to check out GARNOME > > http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/garnome/ > > It's a set of build scripts used by (among others ) the gnome UI > usability people > the lnx-bbc people are quite fond of it. > > I've had my own adventures with gnome lately which showed up some > limitations of the ports system at least when it comes to gnome > > (think of the worst hosage you can get with recursive make and > unresolved dependencies > and then throw in things like libintl.so.4 not being recognised :P ) > > On the other hand gnome has been my home desktop for a while now. > > > On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Bob Crandell wrote: > > > I'd like to know this too. My laptop says it can't find a Mozilla > > icon and I > > can't find it either nor can I find any reference to it in any of the > > Gnome > > config files I can find. > > > > Rob Hudson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> > >> Any gnome users here? > >> > >> Now that Debian has Gnome 2.4 I wanted to give it a try. But > >> apparently > >> I've got old gnome 1.4 stuff and also older gnome 2.4 stuff laying > >> around. I tried rm -rf'ing my ~/.gnome* directories. But when I > >> startx > >> and launch gnome, it still remembers some of my old settings. I'd > >> like > >> to start fresh and see what the default is and tweak from there. Any > >> clues on how to do that? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Rob > >> ___ > >> EuG-LUG mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > >> > > > > -- > > Assured Computing, Inc. > > When you need to be sure. > > http://www.assuredcomp.com/ > > P.O. Box 40814 > > Eugene, OR 97404 > > Voice - 541-868-0331 > > FAX - 541-463-1627 > > > > > > ___ > > EuG-LUG mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > > > > > you > capturing runaway bulldozers:once is chance, twice coincidence, > ... > > ___ > EuG-LUG mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]clearing out old gnomes
I'd like to know this too. My laptop says it can't find a Mozilla icon and I can't find it either nor can I find any reference to it in any of the Gnome config files I can find. Rob Hudson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Any gnome users here? > > Now that Debian has Gnome 2.4 I wanted to give it a try. But apparently > I've got old gnome 1.4 stuff and also older gnome 2.4 stuff laying > around. I tried rm -rf'ing my ~/.gnome* directories. But when I startx > and launch gnome, it still remembers some of my old settings. I'd like > to start fresh and see what the default is and tweak from there. Any > clues on how to do that? > > Thanks, > Rob > ___ > EuG-LUG mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward
It's amazing how great minds think alike. This is exactly what I'm trying to do. What I'm not sure of is the how to part. How to have this intermediate box filter mail without having to create users. Ok, I don't need Procmail. How do I call SpamAssassin directly from Sendmail? Thanks John Sechrest ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > You can always use an intermediate spam filter on an intermediate machine. > > You first need to set up a linux/unix box with spam assasin on it as you want. > Then you need to set the system up to deliver to the exchange server. > Then you want to set the MX records for the domain of the exchange system > to point at the linux/unix box. > > This is how we seperate the FrontEnd mail server from the BackEnd mail servers. > > The front end has the RBL code in it, and spam assassin and the Milter rules. > > You don't use procmail, because you are not delivering to a mail box. You > use the initial spam filtering tools. > > If there are things in procmail, which you can't write in sendmail, > then you can force it to process the messages. But almost everything > that I would put into procmail is better put into the sendmail rules > on the front end box. > > > > > "Bob Crandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > % Hi, > % > % One of my clients is asking for a SPAM filter for his Exchange server. No > % wise cracks. He's stuck and he knows it. > % > % What I was planning on putting in was Sendmail/Procmail/SpamAssassin store and > % forward mail server. My question is can I and how do I do this without > % creating users on the mail server? > % > % Thanks > % Bob > % > % -- > % Assured Computing, Inc. > % When you need to be sure. > % http://www.assuredcomp.com/ > % P.O. Box 40814 > % Eugene, OR 97404 > % Voice - 541-868-0331 > % FAX - 541-463-1627 > % > % > % ___ > % EuG-LUG mailing list > % [EMAIL PROTECTED] > % http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > > - > John Sechrest . Helping people use > . computers and the Internet > .more effectively > . > . Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > . > . http://www.peak.org/~sechrest > ___ > EuG-LUG mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Store and Forward
Hi, One of my clients is asking for a SPAM filter for his Exchange server. No wise cracks. He's stuck and he knows it. What I was planning on putting in was Sendmail/Procmail/SpamAssassin store and forward mail server. My question is can I and how do I do this without creating users on the mail server? Thanks Bob -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Security Pipeline
Hi, Here is a look at the wormy issue with a lighter touch. - 1. EDITOR'S NOTE INVASION OF THE BAD-TEMPERED 12-YEAR-OLDS If you have any doubt that the Internet is being taken over by ill- tempered 12-year-olds, check out this week's story by Gregg Keizer, describing the slanging going on in the source code of the latest Netsky, Bagle and MyDoom worms. Apparently there's some kind of hacker rumble going on, and the computer-using world is getting to overhear the antagonists' trash-talk: - "Hey,NetSky, f*** off you b, don't ruine our bussiness, wanna start a war?" - "Skynet AntiVirus --Bagle -- you are a looser!!!" - "to netsky's creator(s): imho, skynet is a decentralized peer-to-peer neural network. they may be called skynets, but not your s* app." Worm Authors Exchange Taunting Messages http://www.securitypipeline.com/news/18201817 Embarrassing, isn't it? Kids, if you're going to be an outlaw you really have an obligation to be ARTICULATE about the whole thing. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid are remembered because they were witty and stylish. You may think of yourself as a L33t hax0r d00d, and wear mirrorshades and leathers, but nobody's going to be impressed by you if your dialogue consists mainly of, "I know what you are, but what am I?" Also, if your computer skills are so awesome, how come you don't know how to use a spellchecker? WHY DO THEY DO IT, ANYWAY? Sometimes a question that seems dumb at first turns out to be not so dumb after all. I hang out on several online hobbyist forums, and on one of those forums, someone wrote: "I have been trying to figure the purpose of spam out for a long time now any insights as to why people like to send out evil messages and viruses? What do they get out of it?" I was tickled by the response given by Debra Doyle, a novelist with a doctorate in medieval literature: "Spam can probably be blamed on Mammon, but the only reason I can come up with for the existence of computer viruses is original sin." Another person pointed out that, with regard to spam at least, the cost of sending is so small that an infinitesimal response rate makes the operation profitable - that person said the number of responses needed to turn a profit is one in 40,000. I responded: "I'd say Debra Doyle said it best of all, but if you prefer your explanations more long-winded and secular, here goes: "Spammers do it for profit. As was said earlier, the cost of sending spam is so small that, even if only one person in 40,000 buys the product being advertised, then the sender will make a profit. I'm not so sure about that figure, I've seen others quoted, but they are all about the same range. "Moreover, the spammers and the people selling the products being advertised aren't necessarily the same people. Spammers are specialists. So the spammer himself doesn't have to successfully sell herbal V**gr* using spam, all he has to do is find some herbal V**gr* salesman and convince the salesman that spam works. "Make sense? "Next question: Why do people distribute viruses? "Answer: Maybe you're a small-town gal and have never had a lock on your door. I visited a friend about 12 years ago who lived in a small town, and there I saw one of the most amazing things I'd ever seen: we were driving around, running errands, and my friend realized he was low on cigarettes so he decided to stop in at the grocery store. It was a bitter cold day in February, the parking lot was pretty much empty, my friend drove right up to the front of the store, stopped the car without parking, we got out and he LEFT THE ENGINE RUNNING while the car was unattended and we went in and got cigarettes. "Of course, this being a small town, he knew the cashier, and we had to stop and have a nice chat. Not only did my friend know the cashier, their families knew each other, so there was a bit of catching up to do. And of course I had to be introduced, and the cashier needed to know how I knew my friend, and where I was from, and so forth. "So we left 20 minutes later and -- most amazing thing of all -- THE CAR WAS STILL THERE! WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING! And we just got in and drove off. "I've lived my whole life in big cities and suburbs of big cities, and you accept that a certain amount of vandalism and other property crime is a fact of life. Kids write graffitti. Every few years you'll go outside and find someone has knocked your mailbox over. One day while living in San Francisco I went out to my car and found that someone had thrown a rock through the window. They didn't steal anything, but the window was shattered. I know it was vandalism rather than an accident because the rock was still sitting on the front seat of my car. "You learn not to take that kind of thing personally, any more than you take the law of gravity personally. It just happens. Some people love to do damage for its own sake. It gives them a thrill. "Other people want revenge on some
[eug-lug]Linux Users
Hi, Never say die. That's what I always say. LINUX PIPELINE NEWS BULLETIN http://www.linuxpipeline.com/ SCO Sues AutoZone, Readies Suit Against DaimlerChrysler http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=18201823 SCO charges AutoZone violated SCO copyright by running Linux containing Unix code. SCO is seeking an injunction blocking AutoZone from continuing with the alleged violation, and unspecified damages. SCO says it will charge DaimlerChrysler with violating its Unix software agreement with SCO. -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]TV input cards
Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Mr O wrote: > > > Actually, for KBob's needs, the audio should be coming off the > > satellite box so tuner and sound capabilities of the TV card are > > of no concern. > > Actually, KBob should clarify KBob's needs. Why? What does he know? -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]TV input cards
I'm have my satellite plugged into a Hauppauge WinTV-GO model 190 with nVidia GeForce 2 MX 400 and Sound Blaster live Platinum and XawTV. I got them at Circuit City. Sorry Mr. O. I don't watch much TV with it. I mostly listen to music. Mostly. Bob Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I would like to start playing around with a TV input card for Linux. > I'm having trouble finding concrete information on cards that work > well, so I'm asking here. What TV input cards are you using, and > where did you get them? > > Since we don't have any TV reception here, the source will have to be > a DIRECTV receiver. That means that I'd rather use composite video or > S-video inputs than RF/coax. Do TV cards have those inputs? If so, > do I use the audio in on the sound card, or do they have audio in too? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]question on Gb over Fibre
Did you get a crossover cable? Mr O ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I'm looking to go Fibre between my fileserver and game box and > was wondering if fibre is anything like ethernet in terms of > connection. As in; do I need a switch or can I go machine to > machine without any additional special cables? I've got the > cable and trying to get the cards for dirt cheap so it'd cost me > less than doing Gigabit over ethernet. > > Thanks, > > Mr O. > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. > http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools > ___ > EuG-LUG mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]autolearn=yes?
Rob Hudson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On 20040217.0058, Bob Crandell said ... > > 2) You will notice autolearn=no on the last line. How do I make it say > > autolearn=yes ? BTW, the score doesn't make any difference here. > > Look in 'man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' > > bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam n.nn(default: 12.0) >The score threshold above which a mail has to score, >to be fed into SpamAssassin's learning systems auto- >matically as a spam message. > >Note: SpamAssassin requires at least 3 points from the >header, and 3 points from the body to auto-learn as >spam. Therefore, the minimum working value for this >option is 6. > > The default threshold for autolearn is >= 12 for spam, <= .1 for ham. > You can lower it in your user configuration file: > ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs > > -Rob > > ___ I ran grep on my spam folder to see if autolearn was ever yes. The answer is no. Some of the scores are higher than 16, still no autolearn. I read the man page. It helped me set up the spam and ham collectors. That was cool, but it doesn't learn from it. Here is part of /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf: required_hits 5.0 auto_report_threshold 50 rewrite_subject1 report_header 1 use_terse_report 1 defang_mime1 skip_rbl_checks1 dns_available yes bayes_auto_learn 1 auto_whitelist_factor 0.1 bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 8.5 bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam 0.3 Is this where it's broken? Thanks Bob -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]autolearn=yes?
Hi, Here is the header of a real live SPAM: Subject: *SPAM* **SPAM*: =?ISO-8859-1?b?QmVzdCBzZWxsaW5nIGZvciAyMDAz?= Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 06:10:14 + Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on ocicat.assuredcomp.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=6.2 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW_CAPS, GUARANTEED_100_PERCENT,HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED, HTML_LINK_CLICK_CAPS,HTML_LINK_CLICK_HERE,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_BASE64_TEXT,MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET,MIME_HTML_ONLY,PENIS_ENLARGE, PENIS_ENLARGE2 autolearn=no version=2.63 There are 2 issues here I would like help with. 1) The Subject line has "**SPAM*:". This is from a server that is upstream. It tags messages before it passes them on. I have a procmail receipe on my box that says: :0: * ^Subject:.**SPAM*: /dev/null This happens before my SpammAssassin gets ahold of it. As you can see, my SpamAssassin is still getting these messages. What do I do to fix it? 2) You will notice autolearn=no on the last line. How do I make it say autolearn=yes ? BTW, the score doesn't make any difference here. Thanks ya'all Bob -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Happy Precedence Day!
Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Table 2-1. Precedence and Associativity of Operators > = > Operators Associativity > - > () [] -> . left to right > ! ~ ++ -- - (type) * & sizeof right to left > * / % left to right > + - left to right > << >> left to right > < <= > >= left to right > == != left to right > & left to right > ^ left to right > | left to right > && left to right > || left to right > ?: right to left > = += -= *= /= %= ^= |= <<= >>= right to left > , left to right > > (Pun attributable to Jef Poskanzer.) Yeah. I wouldn't want the blame either. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]2.6.0 Tuning
Preemtable kernel support = yes The power management for powering off the computer is all. Anything else? Mr O ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >That's odd. Did you include preemptible kernel support or >whatever that was? Using any power management? I still run 2 >instances of Folding on this machine and rarely does it bog >down. Even while gaming or xscreensavers running. > > > >--- Bob Crandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> When I was running 2.4.20, I could work and Fold at the same >> time without any >> degradation. Now I'm running 2.6.0 and Folding drags my >> system down so bad I can't >> work. Does anybody have an idea where to start looking in >> order to get my >> performance back? >> >> Thanks >> Bob > > >__ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. >http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]2.6.0 Tuning
That helped but it didn't fix it. Larry Price ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >top > >renice folding > >(some versions of top will let you renice jobs from within top) > > > >On Saturday, February 7, 2004, at 10:36 PM, Bob Crandell wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> When I was running 2.4.20, I could work and Fold at the same time >> without any >> degradation. Now I'm running 2.6.0 and Folding drags my system down >> so bad I can't >> work. Does anybody have an idea where to start looking in order to >> get my >> performance back? >> >> Thanks >> Bob >> >> -- >> Assured Computing >> When you need to be sure. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.assuredcomp.com >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> ___ >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> >> >you >capturing runaway bulldozers:once is chance, twice coincidence, >... > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]2.6.0 Tuning
Hi, When I was running 2.4.20, I could work and Fold at the same time without any degradation. Now I'm running 2.6.0 and Folding drags my system down so bad I can't work. Does anybody have an idea where to start looking in order to get my performance back? Thanks Bob -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]stop drooling
One of my clients named their's after the Gilligan Island charactors. Another named their printers after the planets. They had problems with print jobs showing up on Mars until we replaced it. Mr O ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >OH!! Silly me. Yes, you'd have to know the history of my paint >jobs for that. The gaming box which is now an interesting shade >of green was running both my displays. Of course it used to be >blue :P >That leaves to question.. have we done this before?? How does >everyone name their machines? >Blue, Shuttle, and Server are my primary boxes. > > > >--- Garl Grigsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I believe that Bob was refering to the machine that was show >> running on >> your new toy. The text shown in the display appears to be >> running on a >> machine named blue. >> >> blue root # dhcpcd >> blue root # /etc/init.d/portmap start >> blue root # mount server:/raid/music /music/ >> > > >__ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. >http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Dell's Linux Blog
The best warranty is the one you don't need. Hal Pomeranz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> A good 75% of the laptops that come in for repair on Dell. We've >> replaced everything from screens, backlights, drives, to >> motherboards. What I see the least that have any hardware >> problems are usually Toshiba Sattelite series and IBM Thinkpads. > >I've got to agree, Dell Laptops are cheap pieces of junk. The screens >and removable drives go to pieces very rapidly in my experience. > >OTOH, I've had my Thinkpad for about four years now and never had any >trouble. Thinkpads are definitely more expensive, but the extra cost >is worth it to me because I don't have to worry about the thing breaking >on me at inopportune moments. > >End of commercial... > >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Security Pipeline Newsletter
Here is another taste tid bit. Enjoy. SECURITY PIPELINE NEWSLETTER http://www.securitypipeline.com/ Thursday February 5 TRYING TO AVOID SARCASM; ONLY PARTIALLY SUCCEEDING We had a lot of fun thinking up sarcastic things to say about this story: "CAN-SPAM Doesn't Can Spam" http://www.securitypipeline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=17601914 "A month after the federal CAN-SPAM Act went into effect, most anti-spam vendors say that the new legislation hasn't cut down on the glut of junk mail in users' mailboxes. "According to numbers released this week by Brightmail, Postini, and Commtouch -- three providers of message filtering and anti-spam solutions -- the amount of spam they've intercepted since the Jan. 1 debut of CAN-SPAM has increased, went unchanged, or fallen by an insignificant amount." Gee, who'd'a thunk it?! We predicted that here at Security Pipeline months ago: Do Not Bother With A Do Not Spam List http://www.securitypipeline.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=15500142 Other brilliant predictions we made: The sun would come up in the morning; slamming our hands in the car door would hurt; horseradish sauce on a baked potato would prove to be surprisingly tasty. We've been saying for several months now that CAN-SPAM is toothless at best, and at worst will actually encourage spam. But having made that prediction, we're begging someone to prove us wrong. Maybe a handful of high-visibility lawsuits with lofty pay- outs to plaintiffs might serve as a deterrent. If so, let's get cracking. The new law has been in the books for more than a month. What's taking so long? It's not like spam is hard to find. It's time for the likes of Microsoft, AOL, Comcast, Verizon, SBC, Cox, Earthlink, and other major Internet service providers to do their best to identify spammers and bring them to task. Yeah, right. Because the CAN-SPAM act makes that real easy. Shouldn't be any problem finding spammers. They're just hanging out on the bad streets, waiting for the process servers to show up. Take a look around. For spammers, it's business as usual after CAN- SPAM, which is a toothless law that will benefit only the politicians who wanted to be seen as acting positively on something. You can bet that spammers are having a real good chuckle over all this. And if we ever manage to corner any of the spammers, the rest will be off-shore faster than you can say the name of those little blue pills. Some things you can't legislate. You'd think we might have learned that lesson by now. It's going to take technology to solve this problem. More than that, it's going to take a change in thinking. It's going to take new business practices, and an entire world of companies working in concert to stamp this out. Anything less than that just won't cut it. Mitch Wagner and Scot Finnie, Co-Editors, Security Pipeline http://www.securitypipeline.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]EXTREMISM IN DEFENSE OF LINUX MUST BE CONDEMNED
The only reason I posted it here was because it is part of Linux Pipeline Newsletter. I think it's a good reminder that "You catch more flies with honey then vinegar." Though why you would want flies, I don't know but, hey, it's all about choices. Right? There are other good articles after his editorial too. CU Bob Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Well said, Bob. May I remind everyone again that we have a separate >"activism" list. If you think a post should *maybe* go there instead, post >it there and thanks for posting at all! > >I agree with these sentiments, although the statment, "The Linux community >is being invaded by zealots, extremists and kooks" causes me some >distress! I imagine that the majority of the citizens of the world are not >"normal" by any practical measure -- although zealots, extremists, and kooks >are a bit beyond the unpractical "norm"; and if we do desire the success of >Linux, then we will have to allow our Linux-using community to expand beyond >what, say, 1/2 of the folks might be comfortable with. > >Here's a classic example: Zapatistas in Mexico. A *new* generation of >zaps, who are being taught linux starting in elementary school. Certainly >there are many conformists in their population, as there are here, however >the rebels among them (extremists and kooks even!) are now being empowered >with high-quality, highly powerful, and FREE tools by their goverment. >In my crystal ball, the future is hazy, but I see more use of Linux. >That means linux in the server room, on the desktop, and also in the hands >of extremists, and even terrorists. We'd better get used to it, and decide >how to respond, because it doesn't belong to us. I also do not believe that >we can (or should [try to]) turn people into conformists via Linux. > >Thoughts? > >Thanks for your time, freaks = ) > > Ben > > >On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 15:42:45 + >"Bob Crandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >| Hi, >| >| Here is something you might want to read, at least the first part. >| >| LINUX PIPELINE NEWSLETTER >| http://www.linuxpipeline.com/ >| February 3, 2004 >| >| EXTREMISM IN DEFENSE OF LINUX MUST BE CONDEMNED >| >| I've been doing a bit of Googling today, and I've discovered that >| there's something missing from the statements by Linux leaders about >| the MyDoom attack. It needs to be said: >| >| Vigilante action is wrong. The author or authors of the MyDoom virus >| should be prosecuted with the full vigor of the law. They are >| villains, they should be thrown into prison and made into examples >| to make the entire community of computer criminals afraid. >| >| The Linux community is being invaded by zealots, extremists and >| kooks who are, in fact, doing far more damage to the Linux community >| itself than to anyone else. >| > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]EXTREMISM IN DEFENSE OF LINUX MUST BE CONDEMNED
Hi, Here is something you might want to read, at least the first part. LINUX PIPELINE NEWSLETTER http://www.linuxpipeline.com/ February 3, 2004 EXTREMISM IN DEFENSE OF LINUX MUST BE CONDEMNED I've been doing a bit of Googling today, and I've discovered that there's something missing from the statements by Linux leaders about the MyDoom attack. It needs to be said: Vigilante action is wrong. The author or authors of the MyDoom virus should be prosecuted with the full vigor of the law. They are villains, they should be thrown into prison and made into examples to make the entire community of computer criminals afraid. The Linux community is being invaded by zealots, extremists and kooks who are, in fact, doing far more damage to the Linux community itself than to anyone else. One of today's lead stories touches on this bad element within the open source community. The headline is "Extremist Linux Advocates Doing More Harm Than Good," and the story describes the threats, abuse and foul language brought to bear against individuals and organizations that Linux extremists have decided are enemies of Linux. http://www.linuxpipeline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=17601634 The story begins: Industry watcher Rob Enderle no longer responds to angry e-mails from Linux supporters. The principal analyst for the Enderle Group (San Jose, Calif.) says he replied to the first thousand or so. But after that, the anger and profanities that many of the missives contained began to wear on him. "I've been threatened and other analysts have been threatened, as well," Enderle said. "Some of the e-mail is incredibly vile... We thought about it for nearly a day before deciding to publish the story; I was concerned that it might simply be a hatchet job against the Linux community. We finally decided to publish it - and one thing that changed my mind is the fact that I've gotten the nastygrams too. It is not a perfect story. There's going to be some elements of that story that you hate. But I urge you to read it over with an open mind, because the core of the story is true: Linux *is* attracting extremists, and the extremists *are* damaging the credibility of the entire community. The authors of hateful messages against Linux critics should be given punishment appropriate to their actions. A tiny few should face criminal prosecution for their violent threats; the vast majority should simply be taken out to the schoolyard and spanked. Laura DiDio, an analyst with The Yankee Group in Boston, is right in saying: "The open-source and Linux community in 2004 is going to have to distance themselves from the questionable tactics of this fringe element of Linux extremists. If they don't, it's going to hurt them more than SCO can." That's going to be hard to do, given that the responsible elements of the Linux and open source community have no legal or financial bludgeons with which to bring the kooks and criminals into line. The kooks and criminals may intend to harm Linux's enemies, but the Linux community is being hurt more. Vigilante action, threats and nasty language simply serve to help Linux's enemies create the impression that Linux is not suitable for a business environment. They need to be stopped, somehow. One good start is for Linux leaders to unequivocally condemn the deplorable behavior, starting with us, now. --Mitch Wagner, Co-Editor, Linux Pipeline http://www.linuxpipeline.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Advertisement --- Maximize the potential of Linux with CA Management Software. CA solutions can backup, secure and manage your Linux implementation, while also allowing seamless integration into your existing infrastructure. As a result, Linux can be easily adopted into your enterprise. To find out more about our continuing commitment to Linux innovations, visit http://www.ca.com/linux - IN THIS ISSUE IN THIS ISSUE 1. Special Report: MyDoom 2. Only The Best Linux And Open-Source News 3. Trends: Extremist Linux Advocates Doing More Harm Than Good 4. Review: SuSE 9.0: A Distro Worth Paying For 5. Voting Booth: Is Desktop Linux 5-10 Years Out? 6. Expert Views: Linux Needs A Committed Champion 7. Dig Into Open Source Network Management Tools in Product Finder 8. Check Out The Linux Pipeline Topic Categories - Core Linux - Applications - Enterprise Open Source - Business 9. Tell A Colleague About Linux Pipeline Newsletter 10. Have You Discovered The Other Pipelines? 11. Change Your Subscription Options 1. SPECIAL REPORT: MYDOOM SCO Moves Web Site To Battle MyDoom; Microsoft Braces For Hit A MyDoom variant hit Microsoft's site on Tuesday. SCO moved its site to another URL after being KO'd by a denial-of-service attack. http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/17601576 MyDoom Brings Down SCO Site http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/17601331 Microsoft Offers Bounty For MyDoom Author http://www.
[eug-lug]SpamAssassin tweaking
Hi, The server I've been fighting with since Jan 1 is finally working and filtering and happy. Thanks to lots of good help here and Google. The one specific issue I would like to resolve is autolearn. It doesn't matter what the score is, the header always says, "X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=WEIRD_QUOTING autolearn=no version=2.63". Is this a setting in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf or does Spamassassin need to be recompiled with a setting (if so, which one?)? No matter what the answer is above has someone been playing with local.cf to get it to do a better job of filtering? I'll show you mine if you show me yours. required_hits 5.0 auto_report_threshold 50 rewrite_subject1 report_header 1 use_terse_report 1 defang_mime1 skip_rbl_checks1 dns_available yes bayes_auto_learn 1 auto_whitelist_factor 0.1 bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 8.5 bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam 0.3 Thanks Bob -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SCO
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that this works pretty good. Here is what I ended up doing: #/root/.netrc #machine host_to_ftp_to login user_name password the_password machine server.com login Its_me password let_me_in default login anonymous password [EMAIL PROTECTED] === #Transfer script. #!/bin/sh ftp server.com < test === # File doing the trasfer. # Test put file_I_want_copied quit === Where do I send the compensation? Thanks to ya'll Bob Jason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >You shouldn't need to use ncftp for this (though it is >a more full featured client). You should be able to do >this using regular old ftp. > >If there is a .netrc file in the user's home directory >(the user that will be doing the ftp), ftp can use >this for autoconfiguration information. A sample >.netrc file will look like: > >machine host_to_ftp_to login user_name password >the_password > >You can also use the macdef function to do some >scripted ftp actions automatically. These commands >will also be embedded in the .netrc file. > >The man page for netrc should give you some good >information. Then, once you have it automagically >working, you can cron it as Garl has mentioned. > >One caveat to any of these solutions, of course, is >that you'll have a credential set sitting around in >plain text. Make sure the perms are reasonable for the >file (of course, they are going over the line in clear >text as well). > >Jason > >__ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! >http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]WANTED: Powered External HD Enclosure
I have one that can handle 5 or 6 drives. The connection is SCSI 1 Ryan Stasel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Just need an external HD enclosure that holds atleast 4 drives, hopefully >can handle full height 3.5 inch drives, cooling, internal power, scsi, you >know. > >If anyone has one that they're willing to part with for little to no money, >that would be great. > >Thanks much, >Ryan Stasel > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SCO
They are running SCO v5. They don't have ncftp. I forgot to look for a compiler. ftp and tftp are available. I was amazed at how similer SCO was to Linux. I wonder where they got the code? I guess all I need now is a script I can call from crontab to send some files to a destination. Thanks Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Ok, What OS are they running? Do they have ncftp already on the system? Do they have a compiler? >Need More Input. >#5's Alive. > >Garl > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf >> Of Bob Crandell >> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:00 PM >> To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux UserGroup's mail list >> Subject: RE: [eug-lug]SCO >> >> >> Creating a cronjob is what I'm hoping for. >> >> Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> > >> >Bob, >> >The first question would be what SCO OS is their server >> running? Do they have a >> compiler running on it? If so then the easiest thing to do >> would be to use NcFTP and >> the NcFTPPut command line tool. It is very easy to use from a >> command line. In fact >> there should be no scripting needed. All you would have to do >> would be to create a >> cronjob entry. >> > >> >Garl >> > >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf >> >> Of Bob Crandell >> >> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:47 AM >> >> To: Eugene Linux Users Group >> >> Subject: [eug-lug]SCO >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I have a client with a SCO (don't blame me. I inherited it) >> >> server. I've been >> >> commissioned to write a script to FTP a file to am NT server >> >> so it can be backed up. >> >> >> >> Can I pay one of you guys to do this for me? I'm guessing it >> >> will be about an hour >> >> worth of work. It needs to be in place by the end of January. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Bob Crandell >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Assured Computing >> >> When you need to be sure. >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> www.assuredcomp.com >> >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> >> >> > >> >___ >> >EuG-LUG mailing list >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >> >> -- >> Assured Computing >> When you need to be sure. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.assuredcomp.com >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> ___ >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SCO
No. It's a doctor's office running Medical Manager. Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >This doesn't happen to be a veterinary clinic, does it? > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf >> Of Bob Crandell >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:29 AM >> To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux UserGroup's mail list >> Subject: RE: [eug-lug]SCO >> >> >> I going by there today to see what I can see. I should come >> back with more input. >> >> Ok, #5, "Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap." >> "What are you ding?" >> "Oh, singing about 8 bars." >> >> >> Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> > >> >Ok, What OS are they running? Do they have ncftp already on >> the system? Do they >> have a compiler? >> >Need More Input. >> >#5's Alive. >> > >> >Garl >> > >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf >> >> Of Bob Crandell >> >> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:00 PM >> >> To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux UserGroup's mail list >> >> Subject: RE: [eug-lug]SCO >> >> >> >> >> >> Creating a cronjob is what I'm hoping for. >> >> >> >> Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >> > >> >> >Bob, >> >> > The first question would be what SCO OS is their server >> >> running? Do they have a >> >> compiler running on it? If so then the easiest thing to do >> >> would be to use NcFTP and >> >> the NcFTPPut command line tool. It is very easy to use from a >> >> command line. In fact >> >> there should be no scripting needed. All you would have to do >> >> would be to create a >> >> cronjob entry. >> >> > >> >> >Garl >> >> > >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf >> >> >> Of Bob Crandell >> >> >> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:47 AM >> >> >> To: Eugene Linux Users Group >> >> >> Subject: [eug-lug]SCO >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> >> >> I have a client with a SCO (don't blame me. I inherited it) >> >> >> server. I've been >> >> >> commissioned to write a script to FTP a file to am NT server >> >> >> so it can be backed up. >> >> >> >> >> >> Can I pay one of you guys to do this for me? I'm guessing it >> >> >> will be about an hour >> >> >> worth of work. It needs to be in place by the end of January. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Bob Crandell >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Assured Computing >> >> >> When you need to be sure. >> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> www.assuredcomp.com >> >> >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> >> >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> >> >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >___ >> >> >EuG-LUG mailing list >> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Assured Computing >> >> When you need to be sure. >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> www.assuredcomp.com >> >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> >> >> > >> >___ >> >EuG-LUG mailing list >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >> >> -- >> Assured Computing >> When you need to be sure. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.assuredcomp.com >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> ___ >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SCO
I going by there today to see what I can see. I should come back with more input. Ok, #5, "Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap." "What are you ding?" "Oh, singing about 8 bars." Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Ok, What OS are they running? Do they have ncftp already on the system? Do they have a compiler? >Need More Input. >#5's Alive. > >Garl > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf >> Of Bob Crandell >> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:00 PM >> To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux UserGroup's mail list >> Subject: RE: [eug-lug]SCO >> >> >> Creating a cronjob is what I'm hoping for. >> >> Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> > >> >Bob, >> >The first question would be what SCO OS is their server >> running? Do they have a >> compiler running on it? If so then the easiest thing to do >> would be to use NcFTP and >> the NcFTPPut command line tool. It is very easy to use from a >> command line. In fact >> there should be no scripting needed. All you would have to do >> would be to create a >> cronjob entry. >> > >> >Garl >> > >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf >> >> Of Bob Crandell >> >> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:47 AM >> >> To: Eugene Linux Users Group >> >> Subject: [eug-lug]SCO >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I have a client with a SCO (don't blame me. I inherited it) >> >> server. I've been >> >> commissioned to write a script to FTP a file to am NT server >> >> so it can be backed up. >> >> >> >> Can I pay one of you guys to do this for me? I'm guessing it >> >> will be about an hour >> >> worth of work. It needs to be in place by the end of January. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Bob Crandell >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Assured Computing >> >> When you need to be sure. >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> www.assuredcomp.com >> >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> >> >> > >> >___ >> >EuG-LUG mailing list >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >> >> -- >> Assured Computing >> When you need to be sure. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.assuredcomp.com >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> ___ >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SCO
Creating a cronjob is what I'm hoping for. Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Bob, > The first question would be what SCO OS is their server running? Do they have a compiler running on it? If so then the easiest thing to do would be to use NcFTP and the NcFTPPut command line tool. It is very easy to use from a command line. In fact there should be no scripting needed. All you would have to do would be to create a cronjob entry. > >Garl > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf >> Of Bob Crandell >> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:47 AM >> To: Eugene Linux Users Group >> Subject: [eug-lug]SCO >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I have a client with a SCO (don't blame me. I inherited it) >> server. I've been >> commissioned to write a script to FTP a file to am NT server >> so it can be backed up. >> >> Can I pay one of you guys to do this for me? I'm guessing it >> will be about an hour >> worth of work. It needs to be in place by the end of January. >> >> Thanks >> Bob Crandell >> >> -- >> Assured Computing >> When you need to be sure. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.assuredcomp.com >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> ___ >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]SCO
Hi, I have a client with a SCO (don't blame me. I inherited it) server. I've been commissioned to write a script to FTP a file to am NT server so it can be backed up. Can I pay one of you guys to do this for me? I'm guessing it will be about an hour worth of work. It needs to be in place by the end of January. Thanks Bob Crandell -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Lying scripts
Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Bob Crandell wrote: > >> if [ "$?" -ne 0 -o "$DD" = "" ]; then > >Should be... > > if [ "$?" -ne 0 -o "$DD" == "" ]; then > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > if [ "$?" -ne 0 -o "$DD" = "" ]; then Should be... if [ "$?" -ne 1 -o "$DD" == "" ]; then Thanks -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Lying scripts
Hi, I'm looking at someone else's code: DD="`id $QS_USER 2>/dev/null`" if [ "$?" -ne 0 -o "$DD" = "" ]; then cat
Re: [eug-lug]Conditional Bash script
Show off.
Ralph Zeller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>That's pi-thon:
>3.
>1415926535 8979323846 2643383279 5028841971 6939937510
>5820974944 5923078164 0628620899 8628034825 3421170679
>8214808651 3282306647 0938446095 5058223172 5359408128
>4811174502 8410270193 8521105559 6446229489 5493038196
>4428810975 6659334461 2847564823 3786783165 2712019091
>4564856692 3460348610 4543266482 1339360726 0249141273
>...
>
>On 01/15/04 09pm, Bob Crandell wrote:
>> The trouble is, I just barely have a grasp on shell programming and I can only spell
>> piethon.
>>
>> Jason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> >
>> >Aggh, you've just sparked an old suppressed memory.
>> >
>> >I had to build this huge BIND install and hardening
>> >script one time. I created a function for just about
>> >every task in the script and used a function like that
>> >to check return values. In each of the task functions,
>> >I'd set a variable for function name (func_name).
>> >
>> >Something like:
>> >
>> >check_return ()
>> >{
>> > if [ $? -ne 0 ]
>> >then
>> > echo "$func_name went foobar"
>> >else
>> > echo "A-OK"
>> > fi
>> >}
>> >
>> >I'm no shell guru. Isn't there a better way to do
>> >error checking in huge shell scripts? Or is the
>> >answer:
>> >
>> >"Use python"
>> >
>> >Damn python bigots.
>> >
>> >See y'all tonight.
>> >
>> >Jason
>> >
>> >Garl wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Another way to do this would be to assign $? to a
>> >>variable and test the variable. That way you can add
>> >>logic to your script to return the error code and
>> >what >it means. This is nice when you are trying to
>> >figure >out why your script failed 2 years after you
>> >wrote it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >__
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Re: [eug-lug]Conditional Bash script
The trouble is, I just barely have a grasp on shell programming and I can only spell
piethon.
Jason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>Aggh, you've just sparked an old suppressed memory.
>
>I had to build this huge BIND install and hardening
>script one time. I created a function for just about
>every task in the script and used a function like that
>to check return values. In each of the task functions,
>I'd set a variable for function name (func_name).
>
>Something like:
>
>check_return ()
>{
> if [ $? -ne 0 ]
>then
> echo "$func_name went foobar"
>else
> echo "A-OK"
> fi
>}
>
>I'm no shell guru. Isn't there a better way to do
>error checking in huge shell scripts? Or is the
>answer:
>
>"Use python"
>
>Damn python bigots.
>
>See y'all tonight.
>
>Jason
>
>Garl wrote:
>>
>>Another way to do this would be to assign $? to a
>>variable and test the variable. That way you can add
>>logic to your script to return the error code and
>what >it means. This is nice when you are trying to
>figure >out why your script failed 2 years after you
>wrote it.
>
>
>
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[eug-lug]qmail battle
Hi, This is for you guys that tried to help at a clinic recently. qmail is working. The problem was mostly typos. Did you know that if there is a space after a back-slash, it won't go to the next line like you're expecting? That was a hard lesson. The word 'any' has a 'y' at the end. Sigh. Anyway. Thanks bunches. Bob Crandell -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Conditional Bash script
Actually, for this to work for what I wanted it to do, the 'if' statement needs to be: if [ $testvar -eq 1 ]; then This adds text to the file only if it isn't already there. Thanks guys. Garl Grigsby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > >>With many tasks, it's better to do positive validation >>(i.e. verifying what you want actually happened) than >>negative validation (trying to verify all the things >>you didn't want didn't happen). >> >> >Jason is correct. I should have written that > >if [ $? -eq 0 ] > >but Bob's way tends to be a bit easier to read. > >Another way to do this would be to assign $? to a variable and test the >variable. That way you can add logic to your script to return the error >code and what it means. This is nice when you are trying to figure out >why your script failed 2 years after you wrote it. > >For example you could have done the following: > >grep -qs local /etc/shadow >testvar=$? >echo "testvar is $testvar" >if [ $testvar -eq 0 ] > then > echo "It's ok to do it now." > else > case $testvar in > 1) echo "Search string not found!" ;; > 2) echo "File not accessible!" ;; > *) echo "Something Bad Happened. Unknown error!" ;; > esac >fi > >I have something very similar to that reports what happens during a >rsync job. The script reports to me, in plain english, why rsync failed. >I don't have to look up what an error code 23 means from rsync. It also >helps when I am out of town (what are these vacation things my wife >keeps mentioning) because my substitute can easily see why things failed. > >Hope that helps. > >Garl > >>#!/bin/sh >> >>grep local /etc/hosts > /dev/null >> >>if [ $? -ne 1 ] >> then >> echo "Been there. Done That." >> else >> echo "It's ok to do it now." >>fi >> >> > > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Conditional Bash script
I've seen that before. I didn't realize that's what it did. Look mom, I'm a programmer. Thanks Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >#!/bin/sh > >grep local /etc/hosts > /dev/null > >if [ $? -ne 1 ] > then >echo "Been there. Done That." > else >echo "It's ok to do it now." >fi > > >> -----Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf >> Of Bob Crandell >> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:24 AM >> To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux UserGroup's mail list >> Subject: RE: [eug-lug]Conditional Bash script >> >> >> In this example, I'm trying to see if the word 'local' is in >> /etc/hosts. >> >> Thanks >> >> Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> > >> >Are you just try to see if the file exists and is not empty? >> If so use the following: >> > >> >if [ -s /etc/hosts ] ; then >> >... >> >fi >> > >> >The -s checks that the file exists and has a size greater than zero. >> > >> >Garl >> > >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf >> >> Of Bob Crandell >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:05 AM >> >> To: Eugene Linux Users Group >> >> Subject: [eug-lug]Conditional Bash script >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I'm trying to write a script that checks the contents of a >> >> file and if it's there >> >> skip it. >> >> >> >> Here is my test script: >> >> #!/bin/sh >> >> >> >> if [ 0 == grep local /etc/hosts ]; then >> >>echo "Been there. Done that." >> >> else >> >>echo "It's ok to do it now." >> >> fi >> >> === >> >> It doesn't like the 'if' line but I haven't found an example >> >> that I can use. Grep >> >> returns 0 if the search phrase is found. Quotes, single or >> >> double doesn't change >> >> it, neither does parens or brackets. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Assured Computing >> >> When you need to be sure. >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> www.assuredcomp.com >> >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> >> >> > >> >___ >> >EuG-LUG mailing list >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >> >> -- >> Assured Computing >> When you need to be sure. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.assuredcomp.com >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> ___ >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Conditional Bash script
In this example, I'm trying to see if the word 'local' is in /etc/hosts. Thanks Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Are you just try to see if the file exists and is not empty? If so use the following: > >if [ -s /etc/hosts ] ; then >... >fi > >The -s checks that the file exists and has a size greater than zero. > >Garl > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf >> Of Bob Crandell >> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:05 AM >> To: Eugene Linux Users Group >> Subject: [eug-lug]Conditional Bash script >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to write a script that checks the contents of a >> file and if it's there >> skip it. >> >> Here is my test script: >> #!/bin/sh >> >> if [ 0 == grep local /etc/hosts ]; then >>echo "Been there. Done that." >> else >>echo "It's ok to do it now." >> fi >> === >> It doesn't like the 'if' line but I haven't found an example >> that I can use. Grep >> returns 0 if the search phrase is found. Quotes, single or >> double doesn't change >> it, neither does parens or brackets. >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> Assured Computing >> When you need to be sure. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.assuredcomp.com >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> ___ >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Conditional Bash script
Hi, I'm trying to write a script that checks the contents of a file and if it's there skip it. Here is my test script: #!/bin/sh if [ 0 == grep local /etc/hosts ]; then echo "Been there. Done that." else echo "It's ok to do it now." fi === It doesn't like the 'if' line but I haven't found an example that I can use. Grep returns 0 if the search phrase is found. Quotes, single or double doesn't change it, neither does parens or brackets. Thanks -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]LINUX PIPELINE NEWSLETTER
Hi, This is for you who have time to read it: LINUX PIPELINE NEWSLETTER Tuesday, January 13, 2004 http://www.linuxpipeline.com Using Linux just got a lot safer as users got two separate, new indemnifications against lawsuits that might be brought by SCO for copyright infringement: Novell said on Tuesday that it will indemnify users. On Monday, the Open Source Development Labs, IBM and Intel were among the companies launching a $10 million indemnification fund. Last year, Hewlett-Packard said it will indemnify userse. However, the HP indemnification was limited, it only protecting users who received code from HP and did not modify the code. Since modifying the code is a major reason why users use Linux and open source, HP's indemnification doesn't seem to be very useful. We have a nice review of the latest distro from SUSE, Version 9.0. Reviewer Ross M. Greenberg says it's free software worth paying for. Because Novell plans to buy the company, SUSE's software will become more important to the Linux community, especially the American Linux community, where SUSE has achieved only limited market penetration. Attorney Michael Overly provides advice on how to protect yourself against legal risks when deploying open source software. Since we posted the article a short time ago, we've already received letters from open source advocates criticizing the piece by saying Overly holds open source software to a higher legal standard than proprietary software. We'll post the best of those letters in a couple of days, until then, read the article and decide for yourself whether Overly's advice makes sense. My $0.02: Lawyers advise you of legal risks. It's one of the things lawyers do. It's up to you to decide whether those risks are worth taking. That's my first reaction to the criticisms of Overly's article, I'd like to re-read the letters and the article before making up my mind for sure. Finally, we received quite a few responses to last week's predictions for open source and Linux in 2004. Readers said: virtualization, blade servers, and SANs will continue to grow. Microsoft may port SQL Server to Linux. SCO must win its lawsuit, or the company will die. And there's more to open source than just Linux. Read it all here More Open Source Predictions For 2004, From Readers http://www.linuxpipeline.com/trends/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=17300291 --Mitch Wagner, Co-Editor, Linux Pipeline http://www.linuxpipeline.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Advertisement --- Learn how business process optimization (BPO) translates into more customers and higher return on investment (ROI): Order this free CD from CMP. It features an in-depth multimedia presentation that delivers expert insights on BPO, and a comprehensive executive guide outlining deployment strategies. Order the free CD on BPO: http://www.techweb.com/cha/bpo1103 - IN THIS ISSUE 1. Only The Best Linux And Open-Source News 2. Review: SUSE 9.0: A Distro Worth Paying For 3. Trends: Protecting Against Open Source Legal Risks 4. Trends: Big Blue Penguin 5. Voting Booth: What's The Best Linux Distro? 6. Expert Views: Embedded Linux Tool Market Won't Hold Water 7. Find Commercial Linux Tools In Product Finder 8. Check Out The Linux Pipeline Topic Categories - Core Linux - Applications - Enterprise Open Source - Business 9. Tell A Colleague About Linux Pipeline Newsletter 10. Have You Discovered The Other Pipelines? 11. Change Your Subscription Options 1. ONLY THE BEST LINUX AND OPEN-SOURCE NEWS Novell To Indemnify Linux Users Novell plans to indemnify Linux customers and their solution providers against legal charges that could result from looming SCO Group litigation. The news comes as the networking power completes its acquisition of SUSE Linux. http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=17300646 Apache Server Usage Soars http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=17300704 IBM To Preview Next-Gen DB2 'Stinger' At LinuxWorld http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=17300711 Microsoft Offers Linux-Interoperability Software For Free http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=17300679 OSDL, IBM, Intel Launch SCO Legal Defense Fund For Users http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=17300495 IBM Memo Advocates Move To Linux On Internal PCs http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=17300371 Sub-$700 Linux Laptops U.S.-Bound http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=17300165 IBM Backs Standard SUSE Linux For Point-Of-Sale Solution http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=17300426 Massachusetts Open Source Vs. Proprietary Battle Brews http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=17200614 Chinese-Japanese Linux Venture Aims To Challenge Microsoft http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=17200530 2. REVIEW: SUSE
[eug-lug]Qmail
Hi, I have qmail running except for a little error I could solve, maybe, if I could just see the whole error message. ps axfw shows: 4854 pts/0S 0:00 /bin/sh /command/svscanboot 4857 pts/0S 0:00 \_ svscan /service 4859 pts/0S 0:00 | \_ supervise qmail-send 4861 pts/0S 0:00 | | \_ qmail-send 4870 pts/0S 0:00 | | \_ qmail-lspawn ./Maildir/ 4871 pts/0S 0:00 | | \_ qmail-rspawn 4872 pts/0S 0:00 | | \_ qmail-clean 4860 pts/0S 0:00 | \_ supervise log 4862 pts/0S 0:00 | | \_ multilog -t s10 n20 /var/log/qmail/qmail-send 4863 pts/0S 0:00 | \_ supervise qmail-smtpd 4866 pts/0S 0:00 | | \_ /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R -l head -1 /var/qmail/control/me -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c 30 -u 4864 pts/0S 0:00 | \_ supervise log 4929 pts/0Z 0:00 | | \_ [multilog ] 4865 pts/0S 0:00 | \_ supervise qmail-pop3d 4873 pts/0S 0:00 | | \_ tcpserver -H -R -v -c100 0 110 qmail-popup luke2.bauercom.net 4876 pts/0S 0:00 | \_ supervise log 4877 pts/0S 0:00 | \_ multilog -t s10 n20 /var/log/qmail/qmail-pop3d 4858 pts/0S 0:00 \_ readproctitle service errors: ...ory /var/log/qmail/qmail-send: temporary failure?multilog: fatal: un How can I get the rest of the last line? Nothing shows in /var/log/debug, /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog or the qmail logs. This has been a long very frustrating battle but now I think I'm finally nearing the end thanks to some good help from several here. Thanks -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]QMail
Hi, I'm finally back on line. Will you accept mail from me? Bob Crandell ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]QMail Folders
T. Joseph Carter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 05:01:56PM +0000, Bob Crandell wrote: >> How do I have QMail create folders in addition to cur, new and tmp in Maildir? > >I generally use procmail for the purpose.. > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Library/Mail/Folders$ ls >Inbox/ List:Twilight/ Sent >List:Neither/ List:eug-lug/ Spam/ >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Library/Mail/Folders$ > > >It is also possible to nest Maildirs.. The tree for the above folders >might look like... > >~/Maildir/ >~/Maildir/Neither/ >~/Maildir/Neither/cur/ >~/Maildir/Neither/new/ >~/Maildir/Neither/tmp/ >~/Maildir/Twilight/ >~/Maildir/Twilight/cur/ >~/Maildir/Twilight/new/ >~/Maildir/Twilight/tmp/ >~/Maildir/cur/ >~/Maildir/eug-lug/ >~/Maildir/eug-lug/cur/ >~/Maildir/eug-lug/new/ >~/Maildir/eug-lug/tmp/ >~/Maildir/new/ >~/Maildir/tmp/ > >...but I don't generally like it. I don't remember the .qmail filtering >syntax, but I remember that it wasn't as good as exim's and nowhere near >as good as procmail or similar. If your qmail setup doesn't already use >procmail if available |procmail with whatever args are appropriate is just >a line away in your .qmail file.. ;) > >___ This is supposed to be system wide. What does your /etc/procmailrc file look like to create folders? Thanks. Bob -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]QMail Folders
Hi, How do I have QMail create folders in addition to cur, new and tmp in Maildir? Thanks -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Larry in the news!
Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >T. Joseph Carter wrote: > >> No, actually, he was talking about the anti-spam law and how it's a >> beginning and all. I caught most of the segment at 5pm on channel 16 here >> in Eugene (3 on cable). I am watching for a repeat of the segment in >> their future newscasts today to see if I can catch the first 10-15 seconds >> of it. If I can get it, I'll try to capture it off the TiVo and bring it >> to a clinic or something. > >I thought YOU-CAN-SPAM was a net loss, specifically legalizing >broad classes of spam and overriding stricter state laws. > You are being too kind. -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]High Tech
Hi, Frequently Asked Questions for Etch-A-Sketch Technical Support: Q: My Etch-A-Sketch has all of these funny little lines all over the screen. A: Pick it up and shake it. Q: How do I turn my Etch-A-Sketch off? A: Pick it up and shake it. Q: What's the shortcut for Undo? A: Pick it up and shake it. Q: How do I create a New Document window? A: Pick it up and shake it. Q: How do I set the background and foreground to the same color? A: Pick it up and shake it. Q: What is the proper procedure for re-booting my Etch-A-Sketch? A: Pick it up and shake it. Q: How do I delete a document on my Etch-A-Sketch? A: Pick it up and shake it. Q: How do I save my Etch-A-Sketch document? A: Don't shake it. -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]whack: jack and phlack (sound and security projects)
And I guess if you haven't used it yet, you don't know Jack. Sorry. I'll leave now. Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Fun projects I found over dinner: > >1. http://jackit.sourceforge.net/ >"what is jack? > >JACK is a low-latency audio server, written for POSIX conformant operating >systems such as GNU/Linux and Apple's OS X. It can connect a number of >different applications to an audio device, as well as allowing them to share >audio between themselves. Its clients can run in their own processes (ie. as >normal applications), or can they can run within the JACK server (ie. as a >"plugin"). > >JACK was designed from the ground up for professional audio work, and its >design focuses on two key areas: synchronous execution of all clients, and >low latency operation. " > >check out http://jackit.sourceforge.net/apps/ applications that use jack > > >2. http://www.phlak.org/modules/news/ >"PHLAK is a modular live security Linux distribution. PHLAK comes with two >light gui's (fluxbox and XFCE4), many security tools, and a spiral notebook >full of security documentation. PHLAK is a direct fork of Morphix, created >by Alex de Landgraaf." another child of debian, in the line of knoppix... > >it has an impressive list of tools: >http://www.phlak.org/modules/sections/index.php?op=listarticles&secid=1 >nearby mirrors: >http://phlak.oregonstate.edu/phlak-0.2.iso >ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu/.1/phlak/phlak-0.2.iso >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]LINUX PIPELINE NEWSLETTER
Hi, This is for those who need more to read. The rest just delete it: LINUX PIPELINE NEWSLETTER Tuesday, December 9, 2003 Welcome to the premiere edition of the Linux Pipeline Newsletter, the free, weekly e-mail newsletter brought to you by the editors of Linux Pipeline, the TechWeb Network, and CMP Media LLC: http://www.linuxpipeline.com/ This is strictly an opt-in newsletter. You're receiving it because you stated your desire to receive it in response to another mailing. If for any reason you would prefer not to receive the newsletter (or you'd like to unsubscribe your current e-mail address and resubscribe with a different one), please visit our online subscription center: http://www.linuxpipeline.com/newsletter.jhtml --- Advertisement --- Maximize the potential of Linux with CA Management Software. CA solutions can backup, secure and manage your Linux implementation, while also allowing seamless integration into your existing infrastructure. As a result, Linux can be easily adopted into your enterprise. To find out more about our continuing commitment to Linux innovations, visit http://www.ca.com/linux - SUN AND LINUX ARE BUILDING STEAM I don't know about you, but I'm getting more than a little tired of the all-SCO-all-the-time news Linux and open-source news we're getting inundated with of late. I don't blame the news organizations, of course. SCO is doing a masterful job of keeping itself in the news. It's hard to imagine a hotter topic than SCO Group's insistence that Linux has ripped off its copyright -- no matter what any of us might feel about the claim. The outcome of the IBM suit and others could have a very deep impact on Linux and open-source in general. To me, however, the more interesting stories this week and last concern Sun Microsystems. The well-known UNIX company, which many believe had hit bottom with an aging market strategy, appears to be turning lemons into lemonade: http://www.linuxpipeline.com/trends/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=16600525 Early this week, Sun announced that the government of the United Kingdom will test Sun's Java Enterprise System and Java Desktop System (a Linux-based desktop OS comprised of open-source components such as the Mozilla browser and Star Office) in government agencies. Last month Sun announced a contract with a Chinese software consortium to distribute JDS to citizens of China. http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=16101157 According to published reports, the State of Massachusetts and the Brazilian government are also considering open-source solutions. It's too early to tell whether Sun Microsystems is on the comeback trail based in part on open-source software and the Linux operating system. But the company joins IBM, Red Hat, and most probably Novell/SuSE in lining up to capitalize on the fruits of open-source efforts. Things are getting very interesting, indeed. --Scot Finnie, Co-Editor, Linux Pipeline http://www.linuxpipeline.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] IN THIS ISSUE 1. Only The Best Linux And Open-Source News 2. How-To: Picking A Linux Distribution 3. Open Source Beta Watch: MySQL and MaxDB 4. Voting Booth: Does SCO Scare You? 5. Expert Views: Plenty Of Open-Source Docs 6. Expert Views: Time To Embrace Linux And 'The Grid' 7. Linux Tip Of The Week: Your Tip Here 8. Find Enterprise Linux Distros In Product Finder 9. Check Out The Linux Pipeline Topic Categories - Core Linux - Applications - Enterprise Open Source - Business 10. Tell A Colleague About Linux Pipeline Newsletter 11. Have You Discovered The Other Pipelines? 12. Change Your Subscription Options 1. ONLY THE BEST LINUX AND OPEN-SOURCE NEWS Sun Strikes Linux Desktop Deal With United Kingdom Sun's Linux strategy is picking up steam. The company is unveiling an agreement with the U.K. government to distribute its Java enterprise software and Linux-based desktop operating system. http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=16600336 Court Orders SCO To Show Code Within 30 Days http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=16600327 SCO Delays Earnings Report http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=16600318 Sun Opts Out Of Eclipse http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=16600335 SCO CEO Publishes Open Letter Criticizing Open Source http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=16600026 Microsoft Pushes Its Intellectual Property http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=16500016 Sun Inks Deal With EDS To Support Its Linux-Based Java Desktop http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=16505059 Linux Users Dodge Volley In Code Debate http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=16401123 Microsoft-Lindows Court Battle Delayed Until March http://www.linuxpipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=16400883 Long-Awaited Linux Kernel Update S
Re: [eug-lug]char-major-116
That must have been it. The error hasn't happened since I added it to my modules.conf. Thanks Rob Hudson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >In my /lib/modules/modprobe.conf file I have: >alias char-major-116 snd > >I never understood fully but is this a character device related to >sound? > >-Rob > >On 20031209.2210, Bob Crandell said ... > >> Hi, >> >> What does: >> Can't locate module char-major-116 >> Dec 9 14:05:56 mine last message repeated 3 times >> >> mean? It is in /var/log/syslog. >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> Assured Computing >> When you need to be sure. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.assuredcomp.com >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> ___ >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]char-major-116
Hi, What does: Can't locate module char-major-116 Dec 9 14:05:56 mine last message repeated 3 times mean? It is in /var/log/syslog. Thanks -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]journaling filesystems
I use ext3 on the boot partition and XFS on the data drive. ext3 because to get back up and running in a worse case. XFS for data because it's faster and some think it's more reliable. ReiserFS and XFS are so close that it may not matter which you choose, especially if this is a workstation. Thanks Rob Hudson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >The next time I install Linux on my desktop, I plan on using a journaled >filesystem. If you all could indulge me, I'd like to hear about what >journaled filesystem you're running and how it fares. > >I'm thinking about ext3 simply b/c it seems like an easy switch from >ext2, and looks like it doesn't even need to format the drive. > >XFS just got included in the 2.4 kernel... >http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=107088371607817&w=2 > >I think there is also ReiserFS. > >Thanks, >Rob >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Another note on the struggle against SPAM
Hi, This is for the one or two of you that might be interested: SECURITY PIPELINE NEWSLETTER Thursday, November 4, 2003 Elsewhere on the Internet, I gave a rather faint and unenthusiastic endorsement to the federal CAN-SPAM legislation, recently passed by both houses of U.S. Congress and expected to be signed into law by President Bush. I was never really wild about it. I thought it was a bad law, but better than nothing. I was so un-enthusiastic about my support that I actually headlined the piece, "CAN-SPAM Won't." The article mainly wasn't about what's right with the law -- it was about some of the things that are wrong with it. Still, readers wrote back to let me know that I was talking through my shorts even giving CAN-SPAM the grudging endorsement that I gave it. CAN-SPAM isn't better than nothing -- it's at best nothing, and it might even do more harm than good. Let me explain. The CAN-SPAM act has several requirements designed -- or so the bill says -- to limit spam. Senders are required to provide real, working unsubscribe instructions in the newsletter. Senders are prohibited from using misleading headers, including subject lines, to hide the source and contents of their messages. And the Federal Trade Commission is required to study the feasibility of setting up a "do not spam" list, similar to the existing do-not-call list for telemarketers. In my earlier article, I said that the requirement to provide unsubscribe instructions was useless because recipients would be overwhelmed by the need to unsubscribe one at a time from a flood of incoming spam. However, I was hopeful that the prohibition against misleading headers might at least make it practical for e-mail administrators to set up real, working blacklists, instead of the flawed blacklists we have today. And I was also hopeful that a do-not-spam list might work. Well, the readers let me know that I was making my assumptions based on a flawed understanding of how e-mail works. Reader Xavier Haurie explained: So how does this piece of legislation work when you TECHNICALLY can't verify the identity of the sender? What's really missing is an official body and funds to define and test a new standard for identifying email senders I don't doubt that you know that authentication is not a problem in the case of telemarketing because (1) telephone works by closing a circuit b/w 2 telephones with known numbers and (2) the telephone companies knows who owns and operates those phones. Whereas an email is like a glorified IP data packet, or a letter in the mail. It'll get delivered so long as postage is paid and the destination address is correct. In other words, forbidding senders from falsifying headers only works if you have some way of figuring out who sent the mail in the first place. Telemarketing can be regulated because authentication is built into the phone system -- you can't run a telemarketing operation without leaving some record of who you called and when you placed the call. Whereas it's trivially easy to send anonymous e-mail, and very difficult to prove who sent an e-mail. Even if a company -- say, Spacely Sprockets -- sends a spam message with its name and phone number attached to it, when the cops come to call all they have to do is deny sending it. "My enemies sent it to cause me to run afoul of the CAN-SPAM act. It was those dastardly villains at my competitors, Cogswell Cogs," they'll say, and the cops won't be able to prove differently. Likewise, a do-not-spam list would simply be a massive list of real, working e-mail addresses which the spammers would love to get their hands on. Also, the law does nothing to address the problem of overseas spammers. It does not allow for private action -- that is, if you receive a spam, you can't sue the spammer, you have to send a letter to your state attorney general and wait for THEM to sue. That's why CAN-SPAM is, at best, useless. At worst, CAN-SPAM is harmful. It would supersede more effective state legislation, such as a proposed law in California. Moreover, it wouldn't BAN spam, it would, on the contrary, LEGALIZE it -- marketers would know that, if they follow the guidelines of CAN-SPAM, they can send spam messages with impunity. As reader Haurie says, the real fix for spam is to replace or extend e-mail protocols so that senders can be authenticated. Sure, it's important to preserve anonymity on the Internet, to allow the Internet to be used for political dissent, psychological support groups, and for confidential medical research. But most of the time, we need to be able to identify who is trying to contact us. Those two goals are compatible -- and anonymity is, now, killing the Internet. P.S. Analysts Gartner today warned corporations that CAN-SPAM won't help slow down spam, but it will result in greater scrutiny of e-mail messages. URLs referenced in this item: CAN-SPAM Won't http://wagblog.internetweek.com/archives/000804.html Gartner To Corporations: Don't
RE: [eug-lug]SSI and Apache
Thanks guys. This is working now. Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Now let me finish my thought... > > Try using virtual instead: > > > >Using file requires that the file be in the same directory as the referencing file. I have also had other random problems using file. > >Also make sure that the file has a '.shtml' extension and not '.html' or '.shtm'. I have made both of these mistakes in the past. > >Garl > >> > Hi, >> > >> > One of my clients is trying to use: >> > >> > to insert some common info on several web pages on their >> > server. It doesn't work. >> > I checked /etc/apache/httd.conf and it seems to be setup >> > right. There is: >> > LoadModule includes_modulelibexec/mod_include.so >> > >> > and >> > AddModule mod_include.c >> > >> > and >> > # This may also be "None", "All", or any combination of "Indexes", >> > # "Includes", "FollowSymLinks", "ExecCGI", or "MultiViews". >> > # >> > # Note that "MultiViews" must be named *explicitly* --- >> "Options All" >> > # doesn't give it to you. >> > # >> > Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews +Includes >> > >> > and >> > # To use server-parsed HTML files >> > # >> > AddType text/html .shtml >> > AddHandler server-parsed .shtml >> > >> > There are no errors in /var/log/apache/error_log. >> > /var/log/apache/access_log doesn't show an attempt to load >> > the include file. >> > > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]SSI and Apache
Hi, One of my clients is trying to use: to insert some common info on several web pages on their server. It doesn't work. I checked /etc/apache/httd.conf and it seems to be setup right. There is: LoadModule includes_modulelibexec/mod_include.so and AddModule mod_include.c and # This may also be "None", "All", or any combination of "Indexes", # "Includes", "FollowSymLinks", "ExecCGI", or "MultiViews". # # Note that "MultiViews" must be named *explicitly* --- "Options All" # doesn't give it to you. # Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews +Includes and # To use server-parsed HTML files # AddType text/html .shtml AddHandler server-parsed .shtml There are no errors in /var/log/apache/error_log. /var/log/apache/access_log doesn't show an attempt to load the include file. What am I missing? Thanks -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]In your eye SCO
Another step: http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?bw.111903/233235172&ticker=PECS Bob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]spam filtering options and reccomendations
Hi, I like SpamAssassin. It's easy and tweakable. I get no false positives, now, and only about 10 spam a day. Others here don't like it. I think they are trying to achieve zero spam and I don't think that's possible. Anyway, there will be more opions soon. See you. Bob Wayne Scace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi Gang, > Wayne K9DI (EugLUG's Illinois chapter charter member) es Leader Dog >Patriot here. I recently got fed up with drowning in spam and got off >my butt and got procmail working, sort of. Thank God for the step-by-step easy >to read FAQ I found by following www.faqs.org/faqs/mail/fltering-faq/ it >got me up and running, at least with one acct on my system...I'm in the >process of activating procmail on each email addy/login acct. first question, >will activating procmail from each acct interfere with other accts? >Next question: should I go with SpamAssasin, spamc/spamd, or bmf? I >realize that spamc/spamd is a child of SA. I'm running dual boot in my >main machine with debian and Win2K, IPCOP on my router/firewall, and >OpenBSD on my laptop (just installed, haven't done anything with it >yet). About the only reason I keep Win2K around is so I can print stuff >for school. Debian's apt-get has me very, very spoiled:) > What's really strange, is that as little as six months ago I >wouldn't have been able to get as far with procmail as I have now. Six >months ago is when I decided to spend the majority of my computing time >in the CLI. I started using Epic4 fer irc, Centericq fer my IM needs, >Mutt fer email, es nano fer word processing. I'm actually a lot more >confortable using my comp in the CLI than I ever was in the gui world. I'm >not the geek I'd like to be, yet, but I seem to be getting closer. The >man-speak in man pages still baffles the hell out of me, but they are >somewhat clearer. Whoops, started rambling and babbling. > Anyway, tnx in advance for any suggestions, advice, pointers you >folks throw at me. >73 >de >Wayne K9DI >-- > Sincerely and Respectfully Yours > >Wayne M. Scace | "OSS: what a thing of beauty >[EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Ham Radio and OSS: What a TEAM!! >www.k9di.org | "Reading is for everyone!!! >LICQ#315313 | "Meet Leader Dog Patriot!! > > > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]FW: Needing a network administrator...
Outsourcing man. Outsourcing. It's the only way to fly. Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 12:03:41PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: >> Matt Jarvis has forwarded a job opening. Maybe someone here can use >> this. >Heh.. > >> From: Cynthia Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> We have a great guy now, but he's moving to S.California at the end of >> December, and gave a 5-week notice. I'd like someone to start mid-month so >> that they could have 2 weeks overlap to orient to the System while he's >> still here. > >> > We are looking for a new network administrator who can do NT4, Linux, >> > routers, phone system, firewalls, etc. > >;) > >Hasta... > >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Power Down
Hi, I think we have that same P4 and it works for me too. I have a client with a dual 233. It's never worked with that. I was hoping that the kernel had progressed enough to be able to power it off also. Maybe 2.6.1? The power off capability is in the kernel. The right combination will turn off a single CPU system when you type halt. The wrong combination will either do nothing or lock it up. The coffee hasn't kicked in yet so I'm having trouble the English language. Thanks Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Bob Crandell wrote: > >> Has anyone gotten powerdown to work on a Dual CPU system yet? > >I have it working on a hyperthreaded P4, which is sort of like a dual >CPU system. Unfortunately, I don't know the magic incantation. When >I installed gentoo-sources, it Just Worked[TM]. > >I suspect the Gentooers added a kernel patch to make it work. > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]From the Samba list
Hi, This just in; Hi Guys, Just got the OK from the company concerned to publicly announce: Walkers Snack Foods (largest snack food manufacturer in the UK and subsiduary of Pepsico - *everyone* eats their stuff over here!) are using Samba 3 to integrate their increasing use of Open Source with their existing Active Directory domain. We've just finished helping them replace MS ISA with Squid, authenticating against AD using Samba 3 components. A massive thank-you and huge praise to the Samba team from the Walkers tech team (this project led by Alasdair Morison) for all your hard work and for the wonderful technology suite Samba is. I'm told that Walkers were the *first* site in the UK to deploy MS ISA and were once a reference site for the product. It is now been reduced to a coffee coaster thanks to you and the Squid team's hard work Another heartfelt thanks from the UK! -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Evolution
I'm using Slackware with Dropline keeping Gnome updated. Help/About says, "Ximian Evolution version 1.4.5" Under Local Folders on the Folder Bar has: Calendar Contacts Draft Inbox Outbox Sent Tasks Trash There are other mail folders from the IMap server but I can't find Notes. JPilot calls it Memos. Pilot Settings under Tools include a MemoFile Conduit which is set to syncronize. Thanks Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Yes, it has todo's as well. Do you have a handy sidebar with icons for >addressbook, etc? I haven't used ev in a while, but remember my default >layout being as such. Are you running a recent version? A distro's >default, or a Ximian release? > >Ben > > >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:37:50 + >"Bob Crandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >| Hi, >| >| Does Evolution do Memos or Notes? Where is it? >| >| Thanks >| >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Evolution
Hi, Does Evolution do Memos or Notes? Where is it? Thanks -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Power Down
Hi, Has anyone gotten powerdown to work on a Dual CPU system yet? Thanks -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]sco: bsd is next....
1994? What ever happened to the statue of limitations? Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >And now, they say *BSD is next! > >http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/11/19/1746249.shtml > >http://www.atnewyork.com/news/article.php/3110981 > >http://www.newsforge.com/business/03/11/18/1742216.shtml?tid=2&tid=82&tid=85&tid=94 > >ciao, > > Ben > > >Hours ago, I wrote: > >| I third that motion... >| >| Looks like they know the pie is already on their face: >| >| http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/34049.html >| >| "SCO admits: Linux jihad is destroying our business" >| >| cheers, >| >|Ben >| >| >| On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:00:38 -0800 >| "T. Joseph Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >| >| | On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 05:10:36PM -0800, Larry Price wrote: >| | > Oooh, I'd be glad to give him a free pie !! >| | >| | Motion seconded. >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]All computers wait at the same speed.
Hi, For those of you who have time to read stuff like this: === WHO'S ON FIRST FOR THE 21ST CENTURY ABBOTT: Ultimate SuperDuper Computer Store. Can I help you? COSTELLO: Thanks. I'm setting up a home office in the den, and I'm thinking of buying a computer. ABBOTT: Mac? COSTELLO: No, the name is Bud. ABBOTT: Your computer? COSTELLO: I don't own a computer. I want to buy one. ABBOTT: Mac? COSTELLO: I told you, my name is Bud. ABBOTT: What about Windows? COSTELLO: Why? Does it get stuffy? ABBOTT: Do you want a computer with Windows? COSTELLO: I don't know. What do I see when I look out the windows? ABBOTT: Wallpaper. COSTELLO: Never mind the windows. I need a computer and software. ABBOTT: Software that runs on Windows? COSTELLO: No, on the computer! I need something I can use to write proposals, track expenses. You know, run a business. What have you got? ABBOTT: Office. COSTELLO: Yeah, for my office. Can you recommend anything? ABBOTT: I just did. COSTELLO: You just did what? ABBOTT: Recommended something. COSTELLO: You recommended something? ABBOTT: Yes. COSTELLO: For my office? ABBOTT: Yes. COSTELLO: Okay, what did you recommend for my office? ABBOTT: Office. COSTELLO: Yes, for my office. ABBOTT: Office for Windows. COSTELLO: I already have an office and it already has windows! Let's say I'm sitting at my computer, and I want to type a proposal. What do I need? ABBOTT: Word. COSTELLO: If I'm writing a proposal, I'm going to need lots of words. But what program do I load? ABBOTT: Word. COSTELLO: What word? ABBOTT: The Word in Office. COSTELLO: The only word in office is office. ABBOTT: The Word in Office for Windows. COSTELLO: Which word in "office for windows?" ABBOTT: The Word you get when you click the blue W. COSTELLO: I'm going to click your big W if you don't give me a straight answer. Let's forget about words for a minute. What do I need if I want to watch a movie over the Internet? ABBOTT: RealOne. COSTELLO: Maybe a real movie, maybe a cartoon. What I watch is none of your business. But what do I need to watch it? ABBOTT: RealOne. COSTELLO: If it's a long movie I'll also want to watch reels two, three and four. Can I watch reel four? ABBOTT: Of course. COSTELLO: Great! With what? ABBOTT: RealOne. COSTELLO: Okay, so I'm sitting at my computer and I want to watch a movie. What do I do? ABBOTT: You click the blue 1. COSTELLO: I click the blue one what? ABBOTT: The blue 1. COSTELLO: Is that different from the blue W? ABBOTT: Of course it is. The blue 1 is RealOne. The blue W is Word. COSTELLO: What word? ABBOTT: The Word in Office for Windows. COSTELLO: But there's three words in "office for windows!" ABBOTT: No, just one. But it's the most popular Word in the world. COSTELLO: It is? ABBOTT: Yes, although to be fair there aren't many other Words left. It pretty much wiped out all the other Words. COSTELLO: And that word is the real one? ABBOTT: No. RealOne has nothing to do with Word. RealOne isn't even part of Office. COSTELLO: Never mind; I don't want to get started with that again. But I also need something for bank accounts, loans, and so on. What do you have to help me track my money? ABBOTT: Money. COSTELLO: That's right. What do you have? ABBOTT: Money. COSTELLO: I need money to track my money? ABBOTT: No, not really. It comes bundled with your computer. COSTELLO: What comes bundled with my computer? ABBOTT: Money. COSTELLO: Money comes bundled with my computer? ABBOTT: Exactly. No extra charge. COSTELLO: I get a bundle of money with my computer at no extra charge? How much money do I get? ABBOTT: Just one copy. COSTELLO: I get a copy of money. Isn't that illegal? ABBOTT: No. We have a license from Microsoft to make copies of Money. COSTELLO: Microsoft can license you to make money? ABBOTT: Of course! They own it. COSTELLO: Well, it's great that I'm going to get free money, but I'll still need to track it. Do you have anything for managing your money? ABBOTT: Managing Your Money? That program disappeared years ago. COSTELLO: Well, what do you sell in its place? ABBOTT: Money. COSTELLO: You sell money? ABBOTT: Of course. But if you buy a computer from us, you get it for free. COSTELLO: That's all very wonderful, but I'll be running a business. Do you have any software for, you know, accounting? ABBOTT: Simply Accounting. COSTELLO: Probably, but it might get a little complicated. ABBOTT: If you don't want Simply Accounting, you might try M.Y.O.B. COSTELLO: M.Y.O.B.? What does that stand for? ABBOTT: Mind Your Own Business. COSTELLO: I beg your pardon? ABBOTT: No, that would be I.B.Y.P. I said M.Y.O.B. COSTELLO: Look, I just need to do some accounting for my home business. You know--accounting? You do it with money. ABBOTT: Of course you can do accounting with Money. But you may need more. COSTELLO: More money? ABBOTT: More than Money. Money can't do everything. COSTELLO: I don't need a sermon! Okay, let's forget about
Re: [eug-lug]Computerbase, other Eugene PC resellers?
Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Cory Petkovsek wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 10:08:24AM -0800, Jason wrote: >> > Hey, >> > >> > kbob mentioned Computerbase as a place in Eugene to buy custom >> > PCs/components; does anyone else have recommendations for this or >> > other places to buy custom systems in town? I'd like to buy local and >> > will be needing a new system when I get back to Eugene. I will >> > probably be getting case/power supply/motherboard/CPU/ram and >> > finishing it off with junk I already have. >> > >> > Positive and negative comments are appreciated. >> >> Computer Base - I've gotten a few systems there. They are currently >> putting together another used system for me. One of the guys there is >> on this list. I recommend them. >> >> Vos - been there as a last resort for parts. >> >> PC Parts Express - Haven't been there. pcpartsexpress.com > >There's also Stan's. Stan's's real name is PC Training Center, though >it's all PC sales and no training so far as I can tell. Stan hosted >EUGLUG in the early days. > >I'm pretty happy with Mike and Michael at ComputerBase. If you don't >know exactly what you want, Mike's advice is great. If you do know >what you want, then their prices are comparable to the prices at the >reputable on-line stores (e.g., NewEgg or ZipZoomFly). They also >stand by what they sell. Replaced a power supply for me for free a >couple of months ago, for example. > I guess I'll have to second (third?) that. I like them so much, they have become the hardware department for Assured Computing. Bob -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]RPM Woes
Don't worry. I'm not defecting. This episode just confirmed for me that Slackware is still the best distribution for servers out there. This stupid Redhat glibc snafoo that sent me out there doesn't happen with Slack. I'v updated a few Slack 8.0 to 9.1 without this kind of issue. Yes. The system started whining about not finding glibc version just like Redhat did but it didn't die. I reboot them once or twice during the upgrade just to be sure the startup scripts still work. Some of them change. But Slack doesn't die. Redhat should make a good workstation if you have the extra hardware to drive it. You've seen that Slack is faster on the same hardware. Redhat 9.0's hardware detection is pretty good. It comes on 3 CDs and you will use all 3. Redhat has an "Add/Remove Programs" utility that makes it easy to adjust what you have installed from the CDs. I'm guessing there is a way to tell it where you want to install from but I haven't put much effort into finding where that is. So it doesn't do me much good here when the server is over there. Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Traitor! hehe... just teasing... so... how is redhat 9? would you use it on >your computer? > >Jamie > >On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:07 pm, Bob Crandell wrote: >: Hi, >: >: Just thought I'd let you know, at least the ones who care (if there are >: any), that reinstalling Redhat on a clean system went well. There were >: only a couple of boo boos cause I can't tpye. I still stubbornly refuse to >: like Redhat. >: >: Thanks for responding even if it wasn't what I wanted to hear/read. >: >: Bob >: >: -- >: Assured Computing >: When you need to be sure. >: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >: www.assuredcomp.com >: Voice - 541-868-0331 >: FAX - 541-463-1627 >: Eugene, Oregon >: >: >: ___ >: EuG-LUG mailing list >: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >: http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]RPM Woes
Hi, Just thought I'd let you know, at least the ones who care (if there are any), that reinstalling Redhat on a clean system went well. There were only a couple of boo boos cause I can't tpye. I still stubbornly refuse to like Redhat. Thanks for responding even if it wasn't what I wanted to hear/read. Bob -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Re: New laptop - Distro recommendations (Bob Miller)
Oh goody. A new distribution. What's it like? Where do you get it? Woody ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Jason > > >I am seriously considering moving from Crap(X)P to Salck 9.1 on the Dell > >Woody > >Jason wrote: > >>Thanks Bob. >> >> >> >> >>>VMware needs RAM more than it needs CPU power, I >>>thought. >>> >>> >>You're definitely right, I guess I should have said >>resource intensive. >> >> >> >>>OTOH, if you want to abandon all semblance of a >>>normal life and devote >>>each of your remaining hours on this mortal plane to >>>Linux >>>maintenance, customization, and tweaking, go with >>>Gentoo. (-: That's >>>what I've done, and I don't regret it a bit. >>> >>> >>Is gentoo that bad? I don't mind putting in a bit of >>work, but since it is a work laptop, I mostly want to >>get going with a fairly small amount of downtime. >> >> >> >>>But Gentoo does keep >>>you on the cutting >>>edge. I didn't have to go outside of Gentoo to get >>>APM, DVD ripping, >>>DVD playback (and lots of other video formats), 3D >>>acceleration, >>>and lots of other cool stuff (like a bunch of games >>>I never play (-: ). >>> >>> >>Mostly will just need CD writing, wifi, USB, nothing >>too complicated. >> >> >> >> >>>I'm assuming you know your way around Linux enough >>>that you're not >>>intimidated by things like fdisk, editing >>>/etc/fstab, or building a >>>kernel. If that weren't the case, we'd be >>>discussing Mandrake and >>>Fedora. >>> >>> >>Yeah, I usually rebuild the kernel as a first step. >>That way if I foobar anything, it's an easy rebuild >>w/o too much hoohah. Of course, my current laptop is a >>2.2 kernel, so I am excited to get to 2.4, to say >>nothing about 2.6. Old school baby. >> >>I was leaning toward debian and will probably give >>that a shot, tho I am interested in Gentoo. I may save >>this until I eventually by a new desktop for personal >>use. >> >>Jason >> >>__ >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard >>http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree >>___ >>EuG-LUG mailing list >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> >> >> >> > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes
I know. I'm bad. Just let this be a leason to you. Don't cut corners. The longer I think about the more I'm hoping Cory isn't right about sick hardware. I'll know in the morning. Thanks Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Grigsby, Garl wrote: > >> What it sounded like to me was a out of date rpm database. Mandrake >> 7.2 used RPM v3.somthingorotherithinkitwas.0.5 (another indian >> name), while Redhat 9 used 4.2. If you did do an "upgrade" from >> Mandrake to Redhat (you are braver than I) then it is probably an >> issue of an out of date db. There are ways to rebuild it, but not if >> you can get a shell Good luck. > >Did you really do that, Bob? If you started with Mandrake 7,2 and >upgraded it to RedHat 9, then you might as well wipe the disk now. >OTOH, if you had a disk with Mandrake 7.2, and you wiped Mandrake >to install RH9, then something else is wrong. (It might still >be a good idea to start over, though.) > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes
I'm not convinced it's hardware. There weren't any symptons before I started and this last bit was because I was trying to fix rpm's dependancies. Thanks. Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:37:17PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: >> Ok "brand new" a bad choice of words. Redhat is brand new. The box >> isn't. >What I was getting at was did you install redhat over the top of >mandrake or did you wipe it? They way you said it sounded like the >former. > >> This is a file server in another city too far from here. I >> had to install Redhat 3 times to get it to work. >If you have to install so many times and now you are getting this >message after a clean install, I would immediately suspect a hardware >problem. First thing: recompile the kernel. You don't need to use it, >but the kernel compile will put the system through a pretty good test of >processor and memory. Use a stable kernel and look out for any breaks >in the compile process. They'll usually come as signal 11. > >Next try some tests of the disk system. Put on a large file of real or >random data (600mb) and get an md5 sum of it. Then copy it around >several places on the disk and get an md5 sum of the others. If you get >disk errors or different md5 sums, obviously there is a disk/controller >problem. Monitor the kernel log. > >I have a few problems on my workstation right now. VNC freezes my >console occasionally. Since I use it daily it is a daily crash. Sshd >works, but it is quite annoying. I'll be replacing the video card to >test. Also my debian package management files keep getting corrupted. >Occasionally I can no longer delete some files. I suspect the disk >controller. > >Cory > >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes
Tomorrow. You know, "Early to bed. Early to rise" That sort of thing. Oh well. Lots of coffee and a rescue disk. What could go wrong? Thanks Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Bob Crandell wrote: > >> This computer is in Newport. Sigh. > >I know where you're going tomorrow... (or tonight?) > >What you might do is get a spare disk, set it up so it's got >everything installed and tested, then go to Newport and swap disks. > >The good news for you is, Newport is a lot closer than Alviso, CA, >Virginia, or wherevertheheckJasonisthisweek (an Indian name). > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]RPM woes
Not any more. ls now says: ls: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /lib/tls/libc.so.6) ls: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: version `GLIBC_PRIVATE' not found (required by /lib/tls/libc.so.6) Have I ever mentioned I hate Redhat? I opened another session to see if I could login. No. If I loose this session I'm toast. This computer is in Newport. Sigh. Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Can you post an ls -l of /var/lib/rpm/ > >Garl > >> -Original Message- >> From: Bob Crandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:18 PM >> To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list >> Subject: Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes >> >> >> Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> > >> >Hmm, maybe see if you're trying to upgrade an existing package, (by >> >doing something like 'rpm -qa|grep ftpd') and if so, use the >> -U option >> >for rpm instead of -i. AFAIK, -U can be used even for >> installs of new >> >packages, so (if that's right) it could/should be used instead of -i >> >anytime. I use -Uvh. >> rpm -Uvh wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm >> rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions >> This .rpm is made for redhat 9.0. >> If I type "rpm" all by itself I get the same error. >> >> > >> >Also: is this .rpm file made for RedHat 9? It might be somewhat >> >distro-dependent, if not... or maybe there's more cruft left >> over from >> >mandrake. (You managed to upgrade a mandrake to redhat, >> using a CD and >> >clicking upgrade?? nice, except for the headaches!) >> >Also, if worse comes to worse, say if you can determine that >> there is a >> >conflict with the existing package or other ones, remove whatever >> >related stuff you can afford to remove, temporarily (rpm -e, but be >> >careful, as it does not save backups as it uninstalls), do >> your install >> >or upgrade, and then fix up your package set. For instance, >> to upgrade >> >from redhat 7.x to 9, I had to remove a TON of packages, since I was >> >using a lot of .fr2 (freshrpms) and .ximian (er, Novell) >> packages which >> >made for horrible unresolvable conflicts until I erased all those >> >outsourced ones, did the upgrade, then recovered based >> merely on a saved >> >list of packages... my dvd reader still doesn't work again >> though, wah! >> I installed over the top of Mandrake. I didn't tell it to upgrade. >> How would I install rpm if the current rpm program is busted? >> >> > >> >regards, >> > >> > Ben >> > >> > >> >On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:59:47 + >> >"Bob Crandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >| Hi, >> >| >> >| When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand >> new Redhat 9.0 >> >| box I get >> >| rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions >> >| >> >| This is an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 that didn't go well. >> >| >> >| help. >> >| >> >| Thanks >> >| Bob >> >| >> >___ >> >EuG-LUG mailing list >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >> >> -- >> Assured Computing >> When you need to be sure. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.assuredcomp.com >> Voice - 541-868-0331 >> FAX - 541-463-1627 >> Eugene, Oregon >> >> >> ___ >> EuG-LUG mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes
Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Hmm, maybe see if you're trying to upgrade an existing package, (by >doing something like 'rpm -qa|grep ftpd') and if so, use the -U option >for rpm instead of -i. AFAIK, -U can be used even for installs of new >packages, so (if that's right) it could/should be used instead of -i >anytime. I use -Uvh. rpm -Uvh wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions This .rpm is made for redhat 9.0. If I type "rpm" all by itself I get the same error. > >Also: is this .rpm file made for RedHat 9? It might be somewhat >distro-dependent, if not... or maybe there's more cruft left over from >mandrake. (You managed to upgrade a mandrake to redhat, using a CD and >clicking upgrade?? nice, except for the headaches!) >Also, if worse comes to worse, say if you can determine that there is a >conflict with the existing package or other ones, remove whatever >related stuff you can afford to remove, temporarily (rpm -e, but be >careful, as it does not save backups as it uninstalls), do your install >or upgrade, and then fix up your package set. For instance, to upgrade >from redhat 7.x to 9, I had to remove a TON of packages, since I was >using a lot of .fr2 (freshrpms) and .ximian (er, Novell) packages which >made for horrible unresolvable conflicts until I erased all those >outsourced ones, did the upgrade, then recovered based merely on a saved >list of packages... my dvd reader still doesn't work again though, wah! I installed over the top of Mandrake. I didn't tell it to upgrade. How would I install rpm if the current rpm program is busted? > >regards, > > Ben > > >On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:59:47 + >"Bob Crandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >| Hi, >| >| When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 >| box I get >| rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions >| >| This is an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 that didn't go well. >| >| help. >| >| Thanks >| Bob >| >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes
Ok "brand new" a bad choice of words. Redhat is brand new. The box isn't. This is a file server in another city too far from here. I had to install Redhat 3 times to get it to work. The users were hanging over me, "Is it done yet?" And this was on a Saturday after I'd given them a weeks notice that it would be unavailable for a full day. STAY HOME. I got it running, made sure they were happy and came home. Now I'm trying to clean up the mess. Sigh. Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:59:47PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: >> Hi, >> >> When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 box >> I get >> rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions >> >> This is an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 that didn't go well. >Wait, "an upgrade from mandrake 7.2" doesn't sound like a brand new >Redhat 9.0 box. Don't tell me you tried to cross distros. Remember >what happened in ghost busters when they crossed the streams? >Bad Tings (TM) > >Cory > >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]RPM woes
Hi, When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 box I get rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions This is an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 that didn't go well. help. Thanks Bob -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Spoofed
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[eug-lug]Brother, can you spare 30 billion dimes?
Hi, I think they are beginning to develop an image problem. http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/11/11/microsoft.eu.ap/index.html Bob -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Disk space
I usually set up a boot drive and a data drive thusly: /dev/hda1 / /dev/hda2 /usr /dev/hda3 /var /dev/hda4 swap /dev/hdb1 /home Like you said, /var gets full, the system gets mad but it doesn't go down. I like to keep install files on /usr/src and everything else on /home. How you handle it doesn't matter much as long as you allocate the appropriate space for it. One of these days I'd like to try to put the swap partition in the center of the drive to see if it makes a difference in swap time swapping. See you. Bob Timothy Bolz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Jamie >I tried the command nice. > >Can you delete the /var/log files and will they recreate themselves. I was >thinking /var/log might be taking up a bunch of space. I read some where you >should have a seperate /var partition for your logs then if /var gets full it >doesn't bring down your system. I don't think I have to worry about this but >If I was running a server I would consider it. > >I've use tha tar cf comand I'm not sure but I think it might have been you >who taught it to me. I should start taking notes and putting them into a >file of how to do something. Sometimes you only do the command once and you >can remember you did it but can't rember the how you did it. I guess that's >why man pages are there. I think that info is a little better because they >show examples. > >Again Thanks >Tim > >On Monday 10 November 2003 12:00 am, you wrote: >> Tim, >> You can find out how much each of your directories are using with the du >> command, so you might cd to /usr and issue >> du -a ./ >> then cd to /var >> du -a ./ >> also, you have log files under /var/log, these files can get really big >> over time and the info may not be of any value, so check out what you have >> under / var/log, and see if you can free up some of that too (its possible >> you have webserver logs(or whatever) that are humongous, and you dont even >> use your webserver!) check out your messages, and syslog files, they get >> new stuff all the time, if you dont need any of that info, and they are >> taking up 250 megs you might tail the last 100 lines into another file, >> then move it to the existing file... >> also check out lastlog, wtmp, they can get big, and may not be of much use >> to you (although they really can be handy if you have an intruder!) >> >> as far as the partition deal goes... lets say you have 2g of data under >> /usr, you want to make it its own partition. you have a 4 gig disk >> partition in the system as hdc1. >> >> Mount your partition as /new >> mount /dev/hdc1 /new (or edit your /etc/fstab and put it in) then mount -a >> so... do a df (this will show you disk free space, and the number of inodes >> and size (hopefully both your disks will have the same size inodes to keep >> this simple!) keep this info handy for comparison later... >> >> no first copy your data from your /usr partition to your /new partition >> heres a nice way using tar... (btw, cd to /usr first!) >> >> tar cf - . | ( cd /new ; tar xvpf -) >> now you will have a duplicate of your /usr on /new, do a du -a, and compare >> that the sizes match (just incase... it will be, but its good to double >> check incase) >> >> now, the scary part... in the /usr dir, rm -rf * >> that will wipe out your /usr dir... >> now edit your /etc/fstab to include /usr on /dev/hdc1 >> unmount /new, then mount -a >> (mount -a will mount everything in your fstab) >> >> I dont think you need anything in /usr while performing this task, so you >> probably dont need to boot the system on ramdisk (so your / partition isnt >> mounted), but if you do, Im sure someone on this list will yell at me... >> >> Jamie >> >> On Monday 10 November 2003 12:11 am, Timothy Bolz wrote: >> : I was running out of diskspace. I was sitting at 99 percent disk usage >> : and I removed some programs and got it down to 98 percent. I then >> : realized that the .deb files would be taking up space so I removed them >> : and got it down to 85 percent. I would like to get it lower. When >> : removing some files using aptitude said it could delete the programs >> : directory because it was full. There must be a way to force aptitude to >> : delete those unwanted directories. I was considering using one of the my >> : other partitions as a means of increasing the size. The question I have >> : is what directory uses up the most space and could I just mount it for >> : example /usr and would /usr use this partiton to extend itself. I have a >> : partition use for my home directories and it works great. I've just >> : noticed that's getting pretty full too. That I just have to do some >> : weeding. >> : >> : Thanks >> : Tim >> : ___ >> : EuG-LUG mailing list >> : [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> : http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lu
Re: [eug-lug]Disk space
Mount and umount are in /sbin. So if you stepped on /usr then you would still be able to unmount it. Timothy Bolz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Jason, >Thanks I tried the command but I think I will have to be root because it gave >me permission denied. By loosing my system, I think I know what you mean. >It was funny. I made a directory /home and mounted it. My /home/timothy >directory was gone. I was upset, I thought I lost it untill I unmounted it >and there it was again. I learned something though. If I did that I think >/usr would still be there but just covered by the empty directory and thus >making the system unoperable. If remove the /usr mount it would work >properly. I'd have to use a rescue disk to unmount /usr though. That's if it >worked the same way as my /home directory learning curve went. > >I think I went through the same procedure belove only using tar. > >Again Thanks >Tim > >On Sunday 09 November 2003 11:44 pm, you wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 11:11:55PM -0600, Timothy Bolz wrote: >> > I was running out of diskspace. >> > >> > The question I have is what directory uses up the most >> > space >> >> # cd / >> # du -sk * >> >> > and could I just mount it for example /usr and would /usr use this >> > partiton to extend itself. >> >> Not sure what you mean by "extend itself", but when you mount /usr, >> you will mask whatever was in /usr, so you can't mount an empty >> partition as /usr, or you will lose your system. >> >> Assume /dev/hda3 is /, /mnt is open for temporary mounts, and you're >> going to mount /dev/hda6 as /usr: >> >> # mke2fs /dev/hda6 >> # mount /dev/hda6 /mnt >> # cp -a /usr/* /mnt >> # umount /mnt >> # mount /dev/hda6 /usr >> # mount /dev/hda3 /mnt >> # rm -rf /mnt/usr/* >> # umount /mnt >> # echo "/dev/hda6\t/usr\text2\tdefaults\t1 1" >> /etc/fstab >> >> Of course, this is hypothetical, I didn't tell you to do this, and >> if you lose your system, it's not my fault ;] >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug] Breaking News for Nzone Members: Novell Acquires SUSE LINUX
This just in, showing ever growing support for open source: Novell Announces Agreement to Acquire Leading Enterprise Linux Technology Company SUSE LINUX Novell today announced it has entered into an agreement to acquire SUSE LINUX, one of the world's leading enterprise Linux companies, expanding Novell's ability to provide enterprise-class services and support on the Linux platform. With the open source expertise of SUSE LINUX and Novell's world-class networking and identity solutions and support, training and consulting services, Novell will be able to deliver Linux and all its components -- from the server to the desktop -- and give organizations a secure, reliable and mature Linux foundation. Novell will pay $210 million in cash to complete the acquisition. The transaction is subject to regulatory approval and the winding up of shareholder agreements. Novell expects the transaction to close by the end of its first fiscal quarter (January 2004). This latest move follows Novell's August purchase of Ximian, a leader in Linux server and desktop solutions, and further demonstrates Novell's ongoing commitment to provide customers a full range of Linux solutions. Both the Ximian and SUSE LINUX acquisitions affirm Novell's commitment to promoting the open source model and eveloper community. Novell today also announced that IBM intends to make a $50 million investment in Novell convertible preferred stock. In addition, Novell and IBM are negotiating extensions to the current commercial agreements between IBM and SUSE LINUX for the continued support of SUSE LINUX on IBM's eServer products and middleware products, and to provide for product and marketing support arrangements related to SUSE LINUX. Both of these agreements will be effective when the acquisition of SUSE LINUX by Novell is completed. === LINKS === For more information - Press Release: http://NovellNzone.rsc03.net/servlet/cc5?ghNQTSSVIhIxHkkmjLKJhuiQJhuV2VR Press Conference Invitation Novell and SUSE LINUX will hold a press conference at 11 a.m. EST (5 p.m. CET) to discuss the transaction in greater detail. The press conference can be heard live at http://NovellNzone.rsc03.net/servlet/cc5?ghNQTSSVIhIxHkkmjLKJhuiQJhuV2VS talk back What do you think about all of this? Fill out this survey and you could win a prize. http://NovellNzone.rsc03.net/servlet/cc5?ghNQTSSVIhIxHkkmjLKJhuiQJhuV2VT = Copyright 2003 Novell, NetWare and Ximian are registered trademarks; eDirectory, exteNd, Nsure and Nterprise are trademarks; and Ngage is a service mark of Novell, Inc. in the United States and other countries. SUSE is a registered trademark of SUSE LINUX. *All third-party trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Nzone We hope you appreciate receiving Nzone. This service provides you the latest white papers, evaluation software, analyst presentations, special invitations and other valuable resources given to attendees at Novell events. You qualify to receive Nzone through your previous business interactions with Novell, specifically your registration or web download of a Novell product or resource, or your registration for a Novell event. To Unsubscribe from Nzone If you do not wish to receive the Nzone service, please click here to unsubscribe >http://NovellNzone.rsc03.net/servlet/optout?ghODVUUEIhIFHllNkLKJhtiDJhtEf __ This message was sent by Novell N-Zone using Responsys Interact. -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor
I'm sharing an office with Muhleim, Boyd and Carroll at 88 E. Broadway. Just tell the nice lady that it's for me and I'll store it away for Jamie. Maximillian Von Schwanekamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >I should tell my slightly amusing story on this - I tried to donate it >to the Goodwill on Coburg Rd, and they don't accept (and will soon stop >selling) computer parts anymore. I called EFN, and they did not want >it, but suggested St Vinny's on Seneca. Tried there, but they wanted me >to give them $5 in addition to giving them the monitor! (Or any other >computer equipment for that matter). "Sure we'll accept your gift, but >you have to pay us for the effort of pricing it and putting it on a >shelf." That irked me, so here I am looking for a home for this >monitor! Seriously though, Jamie if you really want another monitor, I >would be happy to drop it off. > >Having done this "free stuff" posting before, it occured to me that it >might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of "Humane >Society" for computer equipment... But entirely free, or close to >that. Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based systems, and >donate them to those who might need them. > >Max > > >Bob Crandell wrote: > >>Max could always drop it off at my office and Jamie could pick it up from there next >>time he is in the neighborhood. >> >>Bob >> >>Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >> >>>heh... yeah... I could have fed ex pick it up... how much do you suppose that >>>would cost! >>> >>>Jamie >>> >>>On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:35 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote: >>>: Ah. Guess I should have said: "Free for someone who is willing and able >>>: to pick it up in the reasonably near future:" >>>: >>>: Max >>>: >>>: Linux Rocks ! wrote: >>>: >hey I could really use a monitor, but its a 3000 mile drive! (which Is why >>>: > I only have 1 monitor with me!) >>>: > >>>: >Dont hold the monitor for me, I have no idea when I'll be in driving >>>: > distance! >>>: > >>>: >Jamie >>>: > >>>: >On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:08 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote: >>>: >: Free for someone who is willing to pick it up: >>>: >: >>>: >: 1 HP 55 15inch SVGA monitor, I believe it's 70Mhz @ 1024x768. Works >>>: >: fine no burn or screen scratches, it's just taking up desk space. It >>>: >: does have some black ink splatters on the top, near the back. Nothing >>>: >: that you would notice while using it though. >>>: >: >>>: >: I live near the fairgrounds, for your logistical info. >>>: >: >>>: >: Max Schwanekamp >>>: >: ___ >>>: >: EuG-LUG mailing list >>>: >: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>: >: http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >>> >>>-- >>> >>> >>>>I get the following error messages at bootup, could anyone tell me >>>>what they mean? >>>>fcntl_setlk() called by process 51 (lpd) with broken flock() emulation >>>> >>>> >>>They mean that you have not read the documentation when upgrading the >>>kernel. >>> -- seen on c.o.l.misc >>> >>>___ >>>EuG-LUG mailing list >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >>> >>> >>> >> >>-- >>Assured Computing >>When you need to be sure. >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>www.assuredcomp.com >>Voice - 541-868-0331 >>FAX - 541-463-1627 >>Eugene, Oregon >> >> >>___ >>EuG-LUG mailing list >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug >> >> >> >> >> > >-- > >Maximillian Schwanekamp >Neptune Webworks <http://www.neptunewebworks.com> > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor
Max could always drop it off at my office and Jamie could pick it up from there next time he is in the neighborhood. Bob Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >heh... yeah... I could have fed ex pick it up... how much do you suppose that >would cost! > >Jamie > >On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:35 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote: >: Ah. Guess I should have said: "Free for someone who is willing and able >: to pick it up in the reasonably near future:" >: >: Max >: >: Linux Rocks ! wrote: >: >hey I could really use a monitor, but its a 3000 mile drive! (which Is why >: > I only have 1 monitor with me!) >: > >: >Dont hold the monitor for me, I have no idea when I'll be in driving >: > distance! >: > >: >Jamie >: > >: >On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:08 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote: >: >: Free for someone who is willing to pick it up: >: >: >: >: 1 HP 55 15inch SVGA monitor, I believe it's 70Mhz @ 1024x768. Works >: >: fine no burn or screen scratches, it's just taking up desk space. It >: >: does have some black ink splatters on the top, near the back. Nothing >: >: that you would notice while using it though. >: >: >: >: I live near the fairgrounds, for your logistical info. >: >: >: >: Max Schwanekamp >: >: ___ >: >: EuG-LUG mailing list >: >: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >: >: http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > >-- >> I get the following error messages at bootup, could anyone tell me >> what they mean? >> fcntl_setlk() called by process 51 (lpd) with broken flock() emulation >They mean that you have not read the documentation when upgrading the >kernel. > -- seen on c.o.l.misc > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Wonderful World of Linux 2.6
Slackware includes 2.6 in 9.1 but it defaults to 2.4. You can select 2.6 at some point during the install. I'm waiting for 2.6.1 then my Folding points are going to drop way off while all my servers get the new kernel. Bob Tim Howe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >I've heard so many good things about it, I'm thinking of trying it out. Is there a sufficiently mature distro that will be making use of it soon? > >--TimH > >On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:45:25 -0800 >Bob Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Joe Pranevich has written a good, but lengthy, technical overview of >> what's new in the Linux 2.6 kernel. Check it out. >> >> Wonderful World of Linux 2.6 >> http://kniggit.net/wwol26.html >> >> How many EUGLUGsters are already running a 2.6 test kernel on one or >> more boxen? >> >> -- >> Bob Miller K >> kbobsoft software consulting >> http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Why can't we all just get along
Hi, I stumbled across this while looking for something else: http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/6880.html See you. -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Wiki software?
And, just to add to the list (confusion?), phpGroupWare has a wiki module. Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >I can also say, tikiwiki is *super* cool, although it seems to still be >a young project. >And phpwiki is the one running wiki.euglug.org (although I think it is >an older version)... I've also used twiki, but that is[almost] beyond >the scope of a personal wiki. They are all good, most have some >variance on the syntax -- maybe you'll find your own preference, or >simply get used to what you use. You'll probably want to peruse >http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiEngines >if you want to know about your choices... have fun! = ) > >If you need to find the homepages and downloads for the above-mentioned >packages, or any others, search on freshmeat.net >Oh, and don't forget to enjoy the euglug wiki, too. > >regards, > > Ben > > >On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:13:53 -0700 (PDT) >"jgw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >| Maybe it's late, maybe it's the beer, but I'm interested in playing >| with some Wiki software, and can't seem to locate "THE" Wiki software >| to use. >| >| I'm running FreeBSD and OS X, and I prefer something written in Perl >| or PHP. Preferably something easy to set up. Can someone give me some >| pointers. I can make NO sense whatsoever of wiki.org and the cutesy >| language it uses to try and describe things. >| >| Thanks! :) >| /jgw >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Microsoft Earnings Report
D. Cooper Stevenson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >All, > >Shares of Microsoft common stock are down today on the heels of their Q4 >earnings report issued today: > >http://sec.thomsonfn.com/sec/SecProd?pid=MzgwYlhOdVAkWQEQUALSTOEQUALSTO&transform=result&type=results&doc_type=REGST&doc_dcn=03948319&cont_format=HTML&cont_qualifier=C&doc_product=E&viewer=N#r4 > >Here are a few highlights: > >"As a result of challenges to our business model, sales of our products >may decline, we may have to reduce the prices we charge for our >products, and our revenues and operating margins may consequently >decline. Since our inception, our business model has been based upon >customers agreeing to pay a fee to license software developed and >distributed by us." > >Also... > >"In recent years, there has been a growing challenge to the commercial >software model, often referred to as the Open Source model. Under the >Open Source model, software is produced by loosely associated groups of >unpaid programmers, and the resulting software and the intellectual >property contained therein is licensed to end users at substantially no >cost. The most notable example of Open Source software is the Linux >operating system. While we believe that our products provide customers >with significant advantages in security and productivity, and generally >have a lower total cost of ownership than Open Source software, the >popularization of the Open Source model continues to pose a significant >challenge to our business model, including recent efforts by proponents >of the Open Source model to convince governments worldwide to mandate >the use of Open Source software in their purchase and deployment of >software products. To the extent the Open Source model gains increasing >market acceptance, sales of our products may decline, we may have to >reduce the prices we charge for our products, and revenues and operating >margins may consequently decline." > >Just thought you'd like to know. > > >Best, >-- >-- >| Cooper Stevenson| Em: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| >| General Computer| Ph: 541.924.9434| >| "Open For Business" | Www: http://www.gencom.us| >-- > >___ Hi, I have a subscription to Security Pipeline. Today's issue included this: And Syntel's Gupta said that when all is said and done, Ballmer has no choice but to aggressively pursue security issues, with Linux gaining ground in the market. "Ballmer doesn't have an option but to go strong at security," he said, "Linux is going strong. If people start getting an option to Microsoft products, it could be a problem." And some other stuff of minor interest: Symantec Posts Big 2Q Gains The Internet security software maker will also split its stock. http://www.securitypipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=15500668 Microsoft Releases Systems Management Server 2003 http://www.securitypipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=15500674 Ballmer Sounds Off On Security At Gartner ITXpo http://www.securitypipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=15500399 More Clientless VPN Market Consolidation http://www.securitypipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=15500395 Teen Computer Whiz Cleared In Houston Hacking http://www.securitypipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=15500189 Network Associates To Combine Product Lines http://www.securitypipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=15500064 Microsoft Debuts First Windows XP Security Pack http://www.securitypipeline.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=15500043 -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]The road to open source
Hi, An article containing this link: http://slashdot.org/articles/03/10/21/2131251.shtml?tid=117&tid=126&tid=163&tid=99 showed up in the phpGroupWare list. The PDF seems to be pretty comprensive. Opportunities are roaring over the horizon at us. See you. -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Averatec 3150H, laptop...
Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Good to know... also, I can probably save $35 in sales tax if I purchase >online... %5 sales tax on everything you buy in a store here... >Theres no haggleing in staples! (I dunno... have you seen any ?) Haggling? No. I tried once. The guy just looked at me funny. > >Jamie > >On Tuesday 21 October 2003 01:21 am, Bob Crandell wrote: >: I'm told you can usually get better deals from the online Staples, >: although, it's harder to haggle with them. >: >: Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >: >Yup! Thats the one... >: >The AVERATEC 3150HW comes with 512M, and wireless, which would be better, >: > Ive I can get a simular deal. AVERATEC's website shows about $100 >: > difference in price between the 2 models, but they want $1050 for it..., >: > and staples doesnt seem to offer the HW model. Maybe calling/emailing >: > staples will help :) Maybe they would substitute the ram/wireless for the >: > windows XP! >: >anyway... for the price it seems like a pretty decent deal... I havnt >: > found anything else for the price... Its only a 12.1" display... but >: > heck... $700! >: > >: >Jamie >: > >: >On Monday 20 October 2003 11:08 pm, Bob Crandell wrote: >: >: Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >: >: >Anyone familiar with this laptop? Ive found it on sale for $699, looks >: >: > like a pretty decent deal... anyone used it with linux? >: >: > >: >: >Jamie >: >: > >: >: >___ >: >: >: >: Did it look like this? Get more memory. >: >: Looks to me like the modem is the only think you might have trouble >: >: with. >: >: >: >: Comes pre-installed with Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition. >: >: >: >: The Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 1600+ Processor features QuantiSpeed >: >: Architecture for rapid execution of applications. It has been designed >: >: for extreme performance with Microsoft® Windows® XP and with the >: >: PowerNow! Technology you will enjoy extended battery life. >: >: >: >: The built-in DVD+CD-RW will make watching DVD's or creating your own >: >: CD's a breeze by eliminating the need for bulky external drives. >: >: >: >: High Speed USB 2.0 accelerates performance. With USB 2.0 you can burn >: >: CD's up to 6x faster, back up data up to 30x faster, transfer digital >: >: photos/MP3's 5x faster and even watch and record live full-motion video! >: >: >: >: Built-in 56k modem and 10/100 LAN, touchpad scroll buttons streamline >: >: web surfing and e-mail. >: >: >: >: >: >: Specs >: >: >: >: Processor AMD Mobile Athlon XP-M 1600+ Processor with PowerNow! >: >: Technology and QuantiSpeed Architecture >: >: Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition >: >: Display 12.1" XGA TFT >: >: Memory256 MB DDR >: >: Hard Drive30GB >: >: Optical Combo DVD+CD-RW >: >: Communications56k Modem + 10/100 LAN >: >: Battery 3-Hour Lithium-Ion >: >: Weight4.3 lbs >: >: Dimensions10.6" x 9.6" x 1.2" >: >: >: >: Downloads >: >: >: >: download 3150H product specifications >: >: >: >: Description >: >: >: >: The AVERATEC 3150H >: >: >: >: This ultra portable notebook weighs a mere 4.3 lbs and is only 1.2 >: >: inches thin. With an integrated DVD+CD-RW combo drive it makes mobile >: >: computing a breeze by eliminating the need for heavy external drives. >: >: >: >: The AMD Mobile Athlon XP-M 1600+ Processor will bring you ultimate >: >: efficiency for your everyday computing needs. With PowerNow! >: >: Technology, get optimum performance while managing battery consumption >: >: for extended life. With the use of QuantiSpeed Architecture, you will >: >: be able to access software applications at rapid speed. >: >: >: >: Maximize your performance with Microsoft® Windows® XP Home. With its >: >: user friendly interface you will be able to make the most of your mobile >: >: computing experience. Along with features such as USB 2.0 and integrated >: >: DVD+CD-RW the 3150H is the next generation of portable computing. >: >: >: >: AVERATEC 3150H - Mobility made easy! >: >: >: >: -- >: >: Assured Computing >: >: When you need to be sure. >: >: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >: >: www.assuredcomp.com >: >: Voice - 541-868-0331 >: >: FAX - 541-463-1627 >: >: Eugene, Oregon >: >: >: >:
Re: [eug-lug]Averatec 3150H, laptop...
I'm told you can usually get better deals from the online Staples, although, it's harder to haggle with them. Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Yup! Thats the one... >The AVERATEC 3150HW comes with 512M, and wireless, which would be better, Ive >I can get a simular deal. AVERATEC's website shows about $100 difference in >price between the 2 models, but they want $1050 for it..., and staples doesnt >seem to offer the HW model. Maybe calling/emailing staples will help :) Maybe >they would substitute the ram/wireless for the windows XP! >anyway... for the price it seems like a pretty decent deal... I havnt found >anything else for the price... Its only a 12.1" display... but heck... $700! > >Jamie > > >On Monday 20 October 2003 11:08 pm, Bob Crandell wrote: >: Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >: >Anyone familiar with this laptop? Ive found it on sale for $699, looks >: > like a pretty decent deal... anyone used it with linux? >: > >: >Jamie >: > >: >___ >: >: Did it look like this? Get more memory. >: Looks to me like the modem is the only think you might have trouble with. >: >: Comes pre-installed with Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition. >: >: The Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 1600+ Processor features QuantiSpeed >: Architecture for rapid execution of applications. It has been designed for >: extreme performance with Microsoft® Windows® XP and with the PowerNow! >: Technology you will enjoy extended battery life. >: >: The built-in DVD+CD-RW will make watching DVD's or creating your own CD's >: a breeze by eliminating the need for bulky external drives. >: >: High Speed USB 2.0 accelerates performance. With USB 2.0 you can burn CD's >: up to 6x faster, back up data up to 30x faster, transfer digital >: photos/MP3's 5x faster and even watch and record live full-motion video! >: >: Built-in 56k modem and 10/100 LAN, touchpad scroll buttons streamline web >: surfing and e-mail. >: >: >: Specs >: >: ProcessorAMD Mobile Athlon XP-M 1600+ Processor with PowerNow! >: Technology and QuantiSpeed Architecture >: Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition >: Display 12.1" XGA TFT >: Memory 256 MB DDR >: Hard Drive 30GB >: Optical Combo DVD+CD-RW >: Communications 56k Modem + 10/100 LAN >: Battery 3-Hour Lithium-Ion >: Weight 4.3 lbs >: Dimensions 10.6" x 9.6" x 1.2" >: >: Downloads >: >: download 3150H product specifications >: >: Description >: >: The AVERATEC 3150H >: >: This ultra portable notebook weighs a mere 4.3 lbs and is only 1.2 inches >: thin. With an integrated DVD+CD-RW combo drive it makes mobile computing a >: breeze by eliminating the need for heavy external drives. >: >: The AMD Mobile Athlon XP-M 1600+ Processor will bring you ultimate >: efficiency for your everyday computing needs. With PowerNow! Technology, >: get optimum performance while managing battery consumption for extended >: life. With the use of QuantiSpeed Architecture, you will be able to access >: software applications at rapid speed. >: >: Maximize your performance with Microsoft® Windows® XP Home. With its user >: friendly interface you will be able to make the most of your mobile >: computing experience. Along with features such as USB 2.0 and integrated >: DVD+CD-RW the 3150H is the next generation of portable computing. >: >: AVERATEC 3150H - Mobility made easy! >: >: -- >: Assured Computing >: When you need to be sure. >: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >: www.assuredcomp.com >: Voice - 541-868-0331 >: FAX - 541-463-1627 >: Eugene, Oregon >: >: >: ___ >: EuG-LUG mailing list >: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >: http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > >-- >'Mounten' wird für drei Dinge benutzt: 'Aufsitzen' auf Pferde, 'einklinken' >von Festplatten in Dateisysteme, und, nun, 'besteigen' beim Sex. > -- Christa Keil > >___ >EuG-LUG mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Averatec 3150H, laptop...
Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Anyone familiar with this laptop? Ive found it on sale for $699, looks like a >pretty decent deal... anyone used it with linux? > >Jamie > >___ Did it look like this? Get more memory. Looks to me like the modem is the only think you might have trouble with. Comes pre-installed with Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition. The Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 1600+ Processor features QuantiSpeed Architecture for rapid execution of applications. It has been designed for extreme performance with Microsoft® Windows® XP and with the PowerNow! Technology you will enjoy extended battery life. The built-in DVD+CD-RW will make watching DVD's or creating your own CD's a breeze by eliminating the need for bulky external drives. High Speed USB 2.0 accelerates performance. With USB 2.0 you can burn CD's up to 6x faster, back up data up to 30x faster, transfer digital photos/MP3's 5x faster and even watch and record live full-motion video! Built-in 56k modem and 10/100 LAN, touchpad scroll buttons streamline web surfing and e-mail. Specs Processor AMD Mobile Athlon XP-M 1600+ Processor with PowerNow! Technology and QuantiSpeed Architecture Operating SystemMicrosoft® Windows® XP Home Edition Display 12.1" XGA TFT Memory 256 MB DDR Hard Drive 30GB Optical Combo DVD+CD-RW Communications 56k Modem + 10/100 LAN Battery 3-Hour Lithium-Ion Weight 4.3 lbs Dimensions 10.6" x 9.6" x 1.2" Downloads download 3150H product specifications Description The AVERATEC 3150H This ultra portable notebook weighs a mere 4.3 lbs and is only 1.2 inches thin. With an integrated DVD+CD-RW combo drive it makes mobile computing a breeze by eliminating the need for heavy external drives. The AMD Mobile Athlon XP-M 1600+ Processor will bring you ultimate efficiency for your everyday computing needs. With PowerNow! Technology, get optimum performance while managing battery consumption for extended life. With the use of QuantiSpeed Architecture, you will be able to access software applications at rapid speed. Maximize your performance with Microsoft® Windows® XP Home. With its user friendly interface you will be able to make the most of your mobile computing experience. Along with features such as USB 2.0 and integrated DVD+CD-RW the 3150H is the next generation of portable computing. AVERATEC 3150H - Mobility made easy! -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Resetting ownership
Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Bob Crandell wrote: > >> >> The other Bob >> > >> >I guess that makes me the Other Other Bob. Do we have any other >> >Other Other Bobs on this list? > >> No, I thought you were THE Bob. You know, "The great and powerful >> ..." Do you prefer butter or margine? > >I thought you were a Slackware guy, but you don't know who THE Bob is. >Be careful, or J.R. "Bob" Dobbs will smite your inode tables. I guess I don't get out much. > >I prefer olive oil, BTW. Oh yes. Much better. > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug > -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
