Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-14 Thread Tom Mandera via EV
But what if the difference between a 200 mile *advertised* pack and a real-world 80 miles is my excessive use of the heater at -20F along with running my vhf APRS and talking on HF at the same time - in the dark, with my high beams on?  :) 200 miles on a cool California fall day is a different

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-09 Thread Don Bradley via EV
I noticed on the Tesla website under Model S charging they have a charge time and cost calculator near the bottom of the page: http://www.teslamotors.com/charging#/calculator If you click up on the kind of outlet you use, you notice that 110 V 12A standard outlet is more costly and uses more e

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-09 Thread Lee Hart via EV
One solution is to build EVs with quick-change battery packs. That's what we're trying on the Sunrise EV2. The batteries are in a "drawer" that slides out the front. With quick-change packs, you can use a cheap short-range pack for normal around-town driving. Or swap it for a light high-power

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-08 Thread tomw via EV
/"...But what's not irrelevant is our charging infrastructure. We're building out L3 charging which, I believe, will be too slow once 200+ mile range cars are out..."/ I agree Peri. I think we failed to move from the lead-acid range mentality to anticipate longer range vehicles. Less than a deca

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-08 Thread Bob Bath via EV
rt Bruninga via EV" >> To: "Ben Goren" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" >> ; "brucedp5" >> Sent: 06-Mar-15 9:50:03 AM >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, >> lighter-weight >> >>>

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-08 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
to go. > > Peri > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" > To: "Ben Goren" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > ; "brucedp5" > Sent: 06-Mar-15 9:50:03 AM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 6 Mar 2015 at 10:08, paul dove via EV wrote: > Sure they [people who usually drive only 20 mi/day but now and then > need more range] might exist but it's not economical to own that much > battery for occasional use. Well, now, that depends. If you only use 10% of your battery's capacity per

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 6, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > Sure, different strokes for different folks, but EV enthusiasts are shooting > us in the foot when they claim that EV's are no viable until they have 200 > mile batteries! That's not at all what I and others are doing. If you re-read my not

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
rs. > > > > We first must get past the adoption curve. Too much range anxiety among > people with no EV experience. > > > > > > > > > > From: Peri Hartman via EV > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > > Sent: Fr

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
e that usually have multiple cars. > > We first must get past the adoption curve. Too much range anxiety among > people with no EV experience. > > > > > From: Peri Hartman via EV > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Sent:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Sean Korb via EV
Oh. On February 14, 2012 BASF announced that it had acquired Ovonic Battery Company from Energy Conversion Devices Inc.[27] On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Sean Ko

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Sean Korb via EV
That alone is reason to celebrate :) sean On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > brucedp5 via EV wrote: > >> https://transportevolved.com/2015/03/04/nimh-batteries- >> could-yet-again-power-electric-cars-says-basf- >> thanks-to-ten-fold-increase-in-energy-density/ >> NiMH Batt

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://transportevolved.com/2015/03/04/nimh-batteries-could-yet-again-power-electric-cars-says-basf-thanks-to-ten-fold-increase-in-energy-density/ NiMH Batteries Could Yet Again Power Electric Cars Says BASF, Thanks to Ten-Fold Increase in Energy Density None of this mat

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread paul dove via EV
rtman via EV To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight Isn't that a bit extreme? What about the many people who want to own only one car and normally drive 20 mi

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
to go. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" To: "Ben Goren" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" ; "brucedp5" Sent: 06-Mar-15 9:50:03 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
off the kids in a hummer. Bob, WB4APR -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Ben Goren via EV Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:59 AM To: brucedp5; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, ligh

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread paul dove via EV
ctric Vehicle Discussion List Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight Yes, irrelevant in a way. But what's not irrelevant is our charging infrastructure. We're building out L3 charging which, I bel

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
LEAF price. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Ben Goren via EV" To: "brucedp5" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 06-Mar-15 8:59:29 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight On Mar 6, 2015, at 2:19 AM,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread paul dove via EV
en via EV" To: "brucedp5" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 06-Mar-15 8:59:29 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight >On Mar 6, 2015, at 2:19 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > >> [T]he kind of developmen

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
To: "brucedp5" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 06-Mar-15 8:59:29 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight On Mar 6, 2015, at 2:19 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: [T]he kind of developments being researched by BASF could v

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 6, 2015, at 2:19 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > [T]he kind of developments being researched by BASF could very well pave the > way to cars that could travel more than 1,000 miles on a battery pack the > same size as the ones in today’s mid-priced electric cars. I'm sure we'll never see si

[EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight

2015-03-06 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://transportevolved.com/2015/03/04/nimh-batteries-could-yet-again-power-electric-cars-says-basf-thanks-to-ten-fold-increase-in-energy-density/ NiMH Batteries Could Yet Again Power Electric Cars Says BASF, Thanks to Ten-Fold Increase in Energy Density March 4, 2015 By Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield