Re: [EVDL] EVLN: PGE wants CA ratepayers to pay bill for $653M public

2015-02-14 Thread John Lindsay via EV
Then you drive a Tesla P85 and realise you don't care what it sounds like because that much acceleration can sound like whatever it wants. John Lindsay On 13 Feb 2015, at 5:55 pm, Brett Davis via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I think for many, if it's going to have a sound, it needs to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: PGE wants CA ratepayers to pay bill for $653M public

2015-02-13 Thread Brett Davis via EV
Rolling coal is a lot less cool than it used to be. A lot of diesel enthusiasts see it as waste, and don't really want the public hate (or stiffer regulation). My diesel will do this in certain settings depending on the rpm; I try to avoid it. I think for many, if it's going to have a sound, it

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: PGE wants CA ratepayers to pay bill for $653M public

2015-02-12 Thread Jamie K via EV
On 2/12/15 7:09 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: Even I would balk at that! $25,000 per charging station when a $15 GFCI ouitlet from Home Depot can do the same thing most of the time! Leaving aside any discussion about who should pay for level three charging stations, and how the business

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: PGE wants CA ratepayers to pay bill for $653M public

2015-02-12 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Feb 12, 2015, at 8:08 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: They offer something that dramatically and powerfully compensates for the utility handicap I think that recent viral video of the Tesla trouncing the Dodge in a drag race, especially accompanied by the other

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: PGE wants CA ratepayers to pay bill for $653M public

2015-02-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 Feb 2015 at 12:50, Ben Goren via EV wrote: Once the big automakers start making electric versions of their pony cars that out-race the top-of-the-line gasoline models .. almost nobody who buys such a car is going to want anything other than the electric version. II think that

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: PGE wants CA ratepayers to pay bill for $653M public

2015-02-12 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Even I would balk at that! $25,000 per charging station when a $15 GFCI ouitlet from Home Depot can do the same thing most of the time! http://www.mantecabulletin.com/section/140/article/120539/ PGE wants ratepayers to pay bill for $653M in car chargers The state’s biggest utility wants to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: PGE wants CA ratepayers to pay bill for $653M public

2015-02-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 Feb 2015 at 9:09, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: We need to focus on educating the public that EV's are best used for local travel and commuter cars. That's a pretty steep uphill climb. With enough will and budget it can be done for some minor adjustments. In the space of about a

[EVDL] EVLN: PGE wants CA ratepayers to pay bill for $653M public EVSE

2015-02-11 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.mantecabulletin.com/section/140/article/120539/ PGE wants ratepayers to pay bill for $653M in car chargers February 10, 2015 SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The state’s biggest utility wants to install 25,000 electric car charging stations across Northern and Central California and have