Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-09-06 Thread Chris Meier via EV
I suggest using this on down hill segments only (no matter how small of slope), any energy extracted from the vehicle forward motion will reduce any braking (engine or pedal induced) that might be applied to maintain speed. Since the repeated rise fall pattern will increase suspension movement,

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Aug 2016 at 19:56, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > in order for this new roadbed to be useful, it must not absorb more > energy than the old roadway ... that means it is possible to build a > new roadway that absorbs less energy than what we currently drive on > ... [why not] just eliminate P a

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ot;David Nelson" Sent: 28-Aug-16 10:28:52 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?) My point is if you can capture some of that loss by adding piezos without increasing the overall loss then, and this is the important part, you must

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread via EV
> My point is if you can capture some of that loss by adding piezos without > increasing the overall loss then, and this is the important part, you must > have the ability to reduce the loss somewhere else. If you can do that, then > I claim you come out ahead by simply doing that and not adding

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
piezoelectric crystals. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "David Nelson" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 28-Aug-16 12:38:28 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?) On S

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-28 Thread David Nelson via EV
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I still don't get it. Even if the technology works, the energy comes from > the car. There is already some loss from the car to the road. If some of this loss can be captured, without increasing any losses to the car, then it is wort

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-27 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
-Aug-16 3:51:27 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?) ​​Maybe in SoCal the roads never get messed up because the weather is so nice? Here in NC our weather swings between -12°C and 40°C, and we get decent rainfall all year, I think of

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-27 Thread Michael Ross via EV
​​Maybe in SoCal the roads never get messed up because the weather is so nice? Here in NC our weather swings between -12°C and 40°C, and we get decent rainfall all year, I think of potholes, and nasty dropped pieces of car and truck parts, ladders and lumber, sagging shoulders, bermudagrass infilt

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-27 Thread via EV
First I have to explain that I am an Agile coach. My job is to teach companies and their people to treat EVERYTHING as an unproven hypothesis. Then the work is to either prove or disprove that hypothesis through conducting experiments. The experiments are to be as simple and as inexpensive as po

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I'm not a physicist, and college physics was too many years ago, so maybe I have no business commenting on this. However, I'm somewhat sympathetic with the idea that maybe it's possible to harvest some energy from a roadway. What is regenerative braking but the process ot retrieving and savin

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-26 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-26 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?) Gravity is not a force. Friction is a force. Einsteinium theory of relativity proved this. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Cor van de Water

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-26 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
August 26, 2016 6:58 PM To: Rush Dougherty; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?) > I think you've forgotten about a little pesky thing called gravity... and while > the distances maybe similar, the

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-26 Thread David Nelson via EV
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Lee Hart wrote: > via EV wrote: > >> On the efficiency side of things, roads already flex when vehicles drive >> over them. Why not harvest that lost energy? >> > > Heat is the "bullshit" detector of such claims. If any significant amount > of energy was being pr

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-26 Thread Lee Hart via EV
via EV wrote: On the efficiency side of things, roads already flex when vehicles drive over them. Why not harvest that lost energy? Heat is the "bullshit" detector of such claims. If any significant amount of energy was being produced by flexing roads, it would show up as a temperature rise.

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Sent: 26-Aug-16 7:33:02 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?) On the efficiency side of things, roads already flex when vehicles drive over them. Why not harvest that lost energy? Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: Peri H

Re: [EVDL] Piezo-power> 10mi of freeway could charge all the EVs inBurbank-CA(?)

2016-08-26 Thread via EV
On the efficiency side of things, roads already flex when vehicles drive over them. Why not harvest that lost energy? Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: Peri Hartman via EV -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: