>>> Actually that 3 cent rate is a bait-and-switch. They give you two
meters.
>>> And then if you take the 3 cent off-peak charging, then your house ON
>>> peak rate goes way up to 17 cents (from ten)...
>>
>>I agree that the "time of use" rate may not be a cost savings depending
>>upon your other
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From: Mark Abramowitz [mailto:ma...@enviropolicy.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 12:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Road Trips: plugin vs EV cost per mile
It’s almost always cheaper to pollute.
- Mark
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> On May
e other side of the inflection point.
Peri
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From: "Mark Hanson via EV"
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Cc: "Mark Hanson"
Sent: 22-May-19 7:06:20 AM
Subject: [EVDL] Road Trips: plugin vs EV cost per mile
>Hi folks
>It seems that it's cheaper f
So, you don't plug your Hybrids in at all?
I have heard the Prius gets relatively poor mileage until the engine warms up.
During this warmup time, it gets about 35 to 40 miles per gallon. If your
driving consists of purely short, say five mile, trips - you will not get 50
miles per gallon.
It’s almost always cheaper to pollute.
- Mark
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> On May 22, 2019, at 7:06 AM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote:
>
> Hi folks
> It seems that it's cheaper for taking long road trips to buy a Prius Prime vs
> a pricier Tesla or Bolt with a 60kwh battery pack and pay
On Wed May 22 12:12:36 PDT 2019 ev@lists.evdl.org said:
>On 5/22/19 3:08 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
>> Actually that 3 cent rate is a bait-and-switch. They give you two meters.
>> And then if you take the 3 cent off-peak charging, then your house ON peak
>> rate goes way up to 17 cents (fro
Trips: plugin vs EV cost per mile
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Hi folks
It seems that it's cheaper for taking long road trips to buy a Prius Prime vs a
pricier Tesla or Bolt with a 60kwh battery pack and pay an
On 5/22/19 3:08 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
Actually that 3 cent rate is a bait-and-switch. They give you two meters.
And then if you take the 3 cent off-peak charging, then your house ON peak
rate goes way up to 17 cents (from ten)...
I agree that the "time of use" rate may not be a
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Cc: j...@k6ccc.org
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Road Trips: plugin vs EV cost per mile (4 cents
average)
Bob said (in part):
> For a pure EV. Yes, they pay 28 cents per kwh for that 13% of the
> time, but all the rest of the time they pay very reduced
Mark Hanson via EV wrote:
It seems that it's cheaper for taking long road trips to buy a Prius
Prime vs a pricier Tesla or Bolt with a 60kwh battery pack and pay an
average of 28c per kWh average on the road at level 3 fast charging
stations. We have shorter range cheaper EVs (Spark bought 1 yea
Bob said (in part):
> For a pure EV. Yes, they pay 28 cents per kwh for that 13% of the time,
> but all the rest of the time they pay very reduced rates overnight. Our
> utility offers EV charging overnight at 3 cents per kWh. That's almost
> TEN TIMES cheaper than when they charge on the road.
e yet.
In the future, when we have faster charging and competition on kWh
pricing, I hope we'll be on the other side of the inflection point.
Peri
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From: "Mark Hanson via EV"
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Cc: "Mark Hanson"
Sent: 22-May-19 7:06:20 AM
In the future, when we have faster charging and competition on kWh
pricing, I hope we'll be on the other side of the inflection point.
Peri
-- Original Message --
From: "Mark Hanson via EV"
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Cc: "Mark Hanson"
Sent: 22-May-19 7:06:20 AM
Hi folks
It seems that it's cheaper for taking long road trips to buy a Prius Prime vs a
pricier Tesla or Bolt with a 60kwh battery pack and pay an average of 28c per
kWh average on the road at level 3 fast charging stations. We have shorter
range cheaper EVs (Spark bought 1 year old for $14k a
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