Spark also has DCFC available, so initial statement that no compliance cars
have that is wrong.
First compatible charger in my area is conveniently located halfway between
me and SFO.
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:12 PM, harry henderson via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
what about the chevy spark?
There are and will be low-volume/limited-production EVs that will or
have a Combo css Level-3 quick-charging option.
The BMW i3 EV, Chevy Spark EV, 2014 Mercedes-Benz B-Class Electric,
+more to name a few.
But there has been little to no public Combo css L3 EVSE installed.
Mike, if you are saying
From Plugshare:
Volkswagen Group of America
PlugScore
9.3
Ports
Wall Outlet (120v), EV Plug (J1772), CHAdeMO DCFC, SAE Combo DCFC
Stations
ChargePoint
Wall Outlet (120v), EV Plug (J1772)
Custom Ports
30A 240v
Address
500 Clipper Drive, Belmont, CA 94002
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:14
Hello Harry,
The Spark EV is a Compliance Car. It is only being sold in California
and Oregon. If you live in one of those two states, you may want to
consider it. It also comes with a pack comprised of A123 cells.
Personally, I would not touch a GM product after what they did to the
EV1
Smart ED: ~377 (=25700/68)
Leaf: ~427 (=32000/75)
i3: ~511 (=43000/81)
Tesla-S: ~337 (=7/208)
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Excellent points. All renewable installations have to have this sort of
accounting. Building for peak use is often unreasonable.
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
I don't know if your metric is the right one to use, but for the Tesla, I
think
On 8 Jul 2014 at 11:05, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
For an extra $500 per hour for a 30 minute highway charge? I don't think
so.
I've read this over 4 times, and I'm still having trouble understanding your
point with it. I guess I'm still missing something.
is it worth an extra $26,000
I can agree with this statement: The smart EV driver who understands
the real value-promise of EV's where they do best (overnight charging
and daily use) actually looks for the smallest battery that meets their
routine needs, not the biggest but the rest of your argument is pretty
fanciful.
The
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
The smart EV driver would buy a leaf for $32,000 or a Smart ED for
$25,700 and spend $40 a week to rent an ICE car for their Washington to
NY trip instead of spending $40,000 extra for the Model S and having to
cool their heels at some truck stop (in
what about the chevy spark?
harry
Albuquerque, NM
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On Mon, 7/7/14, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Subject: Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are
After seeing many misinformed newswires on that topic, that did not state
where EVs are available and at what price so the public can compare, I
thought I would put together this post.
I encourage comments and evdl members to post similarly of what EVs are
available and their prices in their
They are offering a deal to employees of the UNC system where I work, to
buy Leafs at deal cost. I could get a bare bones one for maybe $22K -
$23K. But that was very uncertain when I tried top pry information from a
dealership without actually completing the paperwork and visiting.
I found the
No iMiev? Even though sales are low, I would consider them a
non-compliance car.
Peri
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Note that the LEAF is currently rated at 84 mile EPA range, not 75.
Taking that into account, and if you look at the actual price people are
likely to pay post tax incentives, the LEAF currently has the lowest
cost per range mile of those three EVs.
Cheers,
-Jamie
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at
With a little help from my friends, I am corrected: according to
http://www.nissanusa.com/electric-cars/leaf/charging-range/range/
The Nissan LEAF® can get you 84 miles on a single charge. [*] Speed,
topography, load, and accessory use can significantly affect the estimated
range.
So,
Good points, and no arguments here on using EPA range for the sake of
camparison even though YMMV.
However the actual consumer cost of each EV is post tax incentive,
which, to make an accurate comparison, cannot be ignored. Purchase cost
per mile range is a useful metric for comparison when
I know it's not a 'true' EV, but definitely don't forget the noble Chevy Volt.
At just $34k before tax credit, it provides decent EV range (unlike the other
PIH), decent performance, a coddled battery that will last forever, actual back
seat and trunk space (unlike the puny Leaf), and
I have seen 2 Volts in my life, one yesterday. I must say it is a pretty
nice looking car. At $34K it costs about double what I am willing to put
into a car. Cars don't deserve that much IMO. But there you have it, I am
a cheapskate. Waiting for used.
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ben
On 7/7/14 6:47 PM, Ben Apollonio via EV wrote:
I know it's not a 'true' EV, but definitely don't forget the noble
Chevy Volt. At just $34k before tax credit, it provides decent EV
range (unlike the other PIH), decent performance, a coddled battery
that will last forever, actual back seat and
I don't know if your metric is the right one to use, but for the Tesla, I think
that using the 85 kWh battery as a more robust solution is what I would use.
Using your method of calculation, it also compares favorably.
~356 ($94390/265)
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