[EVDL] 22 U.S. mayors Urged Congress to Not Throw out EV Rebates: (Kill-Bill ... Koch-Kool-Aid)

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http://www.motortrend.com/news/congress-urged-not-throw-ev-rebates/
Congress Urged Not to Throw out EV Rebates
December 8, 2017  Congress has been pushing to finalize a tax reform plan by
the end of the year, and it could have consequences for the future of
electric vehicles. Although the Senate wants to keep federal EV rebates, a
proposal from the House would eliminate the $7,500 tax credit that consumers
receive for buying an electric vehicle. Now ...
...
http://www.care2.com/causes/4-ways-the-gop-tax-plan-is-terrible-for-the-environment.html
4 Ways the GOP Tax Plan Is Terrible for the Environment
December 8, 2017  At points, Congress kicked around gutting the wind
industry's tax energy credit by 40 percent, with solar energy taking
additional but less devastating cuts. Although the Senate ultimately decided
not to include the ... A tax credit for electric vehicles is also in
jeopardy. Under existing tax law, people who purchase an electric ...
...
http://www.autonews.com/article/20171208/OEM05/171209790/congress-electric-vehicle-bill
Mayors, industry press Congress to keep EV rebate in final tax bill
December 8, 2017  WASHINGTON -- Electric vehicle and clean-energy proponents
are urging Congress to preserve a consumer tax credit they insist is
critical to mass adoption of the technology …
...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/daily-on-energy-mount-st-helens-eruption-risking-lives-37-years-later/article/2177045
Dec 8, 2017 ... AUTOMAKER TRADE GROUP URGES CONGRESS TO SAVE ELECTRIC CAR
TAX CREDITS: The Electric Drive Transportation Association, representing all
segments of the electric car supply chain, sent a letter Thursday urging
Congress to save the $7,500 tax credit for electric vehicles in the tax
reform legislation.
The House version of the bill kills the subsidy, while the Senate does not.
Now that both chambers have passed the bills, a conference committee has
been formed to reconcile the differences. So the credit could survive before
going to President Trump’s desk.
“The Section 30D credit is working as intended to promote the deployment of
plug-in electric drive vehicles by multiple vehicle manufacturers and ensure
that the United States leads, rather than follows, in this critical advanced
technology,” said Genevieve Cullen, the group’s president. “U.S. leadership
in EV technology expands our global competitiveness and creates domestic
jobs.”
...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/07/climate/tax-overhaul-energy-wind-solar.html
Renewable Energy Is Surging. The GOP Tax Bill Could Curtail That.
Dec 7, 2017  The House bill's effects would be more direct, rolling back tax
credits for wind farms and electric vehicles, while increasing federal
support for two nuclear reactors under construction in Georgia. Fossil fuel
producers are under little pressure in either bill and some would stand to
benefit: The Senate legislation would open the ...
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https://cleantechnica.com/2017/12/04/end-federal-ev-tax-credit-not-death-evs/
End of Federal EV Tax Credit Would Not Be the Death of EVs
Dec 4, 2017  Whether or not the US Congress ends the tax credit for electric
vehicles on December 31, 2017, it won't be a disaster for sales of electric
cars in the US in 2018 and beyond. More on that in minute. First, when the
Senate approved its version of new tax legislation on Friday, December 1,
there still was no mention of the ...
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https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1114098_if-you-plan-to-buy-an-electric-car-you-should-do-it-this-month
If you plan to buy an electric car, you should do it this month
Dec 1, 2017  But this year, there may be another reason to buy a plug-in
electric car by December 31. It's possible that the U.S. income-tax credit
of $2,500 to $7,500 for buying a plug-in car may be ended if Congress
manages to pass a "tax reform" bill. Of the two drafts for a tax bill
introduced in recent weeks, the one from the House of ...
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https://www.kiplinger.com/article/taxes/T009-C000-S001-last-call-for-electric-car-tax-credit.html
Last Call for Electric-Car Tax Credit?
December 8, 2017  Time could be running out on the chance for new-car buyers
to pocket a tax credit worth up to $7,500 for the purchase of a new electric
... Congress is considering pulling the plug on a lucrative tax credit for
buyers of electric cars …
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[EVDL] ME engineer, environmentalist, politician, innkeeper Cowger> gone Tesla-X Uber driver

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http://www.centralmaine.com/2017/12/03/hallowell-man-sporting-his-electric-tesla-breaks-into-uber-market/
Hallowell man, sporting his electric Tesla, breaks into Uber market
2017/12/03  Jason Pafundi

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Scott Cowger holds up his phone with the Uber app on it Wednesday in his
Tesla in Hallowell

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Scott Cowger holds up his phone with the Uber app on it on Wednesday beside
his Tesla in Hallowell
]

Scott Cowger owns the Maple Hill Farm Inn and Conference Center in Hallowell
and decided to become an Uber driver to take guests to various destinations
around central Maine.

HALLOWELL — Scott Cowger has been an engineer, an environmentalist, a
politician and an innkeeper. Now he’s an Uber driver, and he’s doing it in
his Tesla.

Cowger, the co-owner of the Maple Hill Farm Inn and Conference Center, has
been driving for the popular ride-sharing service for about a month, and
he’s approaching 20 rides, making him among the only such drivers in central
Maine.

He started driving for Uber for a simple reason.

“I thought it would be a great idea to have it available to my guests at the
inn,” Cowger said during an interview at the Maple Hill Farm last week.
“They could tell me when they needed a ride, I’d turn on the app and take
them wherever.”

Uber is a global transportation technology company based in San Francisco
that operates in more than 630 cities worldwide, including other Maine
cities such as Portland. Uber drivers use their own vehicles, and riders use
an app on a smartphone to request a ride, pay for the ride and rate the
experience. There is no money exchanged between driver and rider, which is
one of the biggest selling points for the service.

An Uber representative declined to comment on how many Uber drivers there
are in Maine, and Cowger said he’s aware of one other person driving in this
area.

In cities around the globe, a rider would expect their Uber driver to pick
them up in a Toyota Camry or Nissan Altima or a similar vehicle. When Cowger
arrives in his Tesla Model S 75D, which sell for at least $70,000, the
reactions are different.

“People are totally thrilled when I show up in my Tesla,” he said with a
smile. “They just love it.”

Cowger said driving people around central Maine gives him another excuse to
drive his luxury electric vehicle, which is emblazed in the front and back
with license plates that read “NO FUMES.” He said a lot of people around
here don’t even know what a Tesla is, so he appreciates the opportunity to
talk about the vehicle and the company.

“I’ve become an electric vehicle enthusiast,” he said. “It’s been fun to
demonstrate what an electric car is and how much fun it is to drive.”

Since Cowger began driving last month, he’s driven all types of people, but
he said most of his customers have been people new to the area. They’ve used
Uber elsewhere, and when they come to Maine, it’s something they’re familiar
with, he said.

“I think a lot of the people here don’t know about Uber and don’t know how
it works,” Cowger said. “People that come here, though, are used to having
Uber, and there’s definitely a gap in services.”

In the past, Cowger has called taxis or arranged private car services for
guests needing a ride to the airport in Portland or to downtown Hallowell,
so he’s hoping that he can provide that service for his guests.

He has driven people around central Maine and to and from Waterville, and
last week, while in South Portland for Thanksgiving, he turned on his
service and took someone to the airport. He’s taken people to bars in
Hallowell and other places and have taken some home, though he said he tends
to turn the service off late at night.

Cowger thinks there is definitely a demand for the service in central Maine,
but he doesn’t think enough people know it’s available.

“More drivers would be great, too, because we’d have more coverage,” he
said. “It’s less expensive than taking a cab, but people just don’t know
about it.”

Recently, Uber has been in the news because of a security breach and hack of
its network that left 57 million user accounts exposed. Uber paid $100,000
to the hackers to delete the data and did not tell regulators or users that
their information was stolen.

Cowger wasn’t an Uber driver when the company was hacked, and he said he’s
had nothing but smooth and seamless interactions with the service. There is
an even an Uber rep who has office hours in Portland.

As a Tesla owner, Cowger — after increasing his total number of rides given
— can qualify and register as an UberSelect driver, which is a premium
service that costs a little more to the customer but pays more to the
driver.

“It’ll be more worth my while to do short 

[EVDL] EVLN: (spied)> M KUV100 e-SUV (codename S107)

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https://www.cardekho.com/india-car-news/mahindra-kuv100-electric-spied-testing-for-the-first-time-21033.htm
Mahindra KUV100 Electric Spied Testing For The First Time
Nov 30, 2017  Dhruv Saxena

[images  
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Mahindra KUV100 Electric
]

The KUV100 with the electric drivetrain will join the eVerito and the e2o
Plus as Mahindra’s offerings in the EV market

Mahindra & Mahindra looks poised to flood the market with electric vehicles
(EVs) when the boom begins. This has become even more evident after an
electric KUV100 was spotted testing for the first time. Mahindra had earlier
confirmed that the company will be introducing two new electric vehicles by
the end of 2019. The KUV100 Electric will be the first of two new EVs that
will join the already existing fleet of EVs such as the eVerito, e20 Plus
and eSupremo. Later, all Mahindra cars based on a monocoque platform and
powered by an internal combustion engine are likely to feature an electric
variant as well ...

Speaking of the KUV100 that was caught testing, it’s clear from the picture
that the vehicle doesn’t feature a visible tailpipe. Other visible
differentiator is the barely visible black cable that runs from the rear
window to the bottom of the hatchback. The piping is camouflaged by the
fiery red wrapping and the black rear bumper. 

The Mahindra KUV100 Electric is most likely to be unveiled at the 2018 Delhi
Auto Expo, while its launch could occur by the end of 2018. This could be
followed by the XUV Aero, which was shown as a concept at the last Auto Expo
where it grabbed a lot of attention thanks to its coupe-like form. It is
rumoured that the XUV Aero might go into production with just an electric
drivetrain.

While Mahindra is at it, the homegrown manufacturer is also expected to
develop an electric version of all their vehicles which are based on a
monocoque chassis. This means that the XUV500 could also come with the
options of an electric drivetrain. Pawan Goenka himself has ruled out any
possibility of ladder-on-frame products going electric, so don’t expect an
electric Mahindra Scorpio to come our way anytime soon. 
[© 2017 Powered By Girnar Software]
...
https://indianautosblog.com/2017/11/mahindra-kuv100-electric-spotted-for-the-first-time
Mahindra KUV100 Electric spotted for the first time
Nov 29, 2017 - The fully electric version of the Mahindra KUV100 is
scheduled to arrive in 2018. It may be showcased at the Auto Expo in
February next year ...



http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/index/Auto/2017-12-02/Mahindra-KUV100-Electric-Spied-Testing-For-The-First-Time/342657
Mahindra KUV100 Electric Spied Testing For The First Time
2017-12-02  Mahindra & Mahindra looks poised to flood the market with
electric vehicles (EVs) when the boom begins. This has become even more
evident after an electric KUV100 was spotted testing for the first time.
Mahindra had earlier confirmed that the company will be introducing two new
electric vehicles by the end of 2019 ...
...
https://www.indiacarnews.com/news/mahindra-kuv100-electric-mahindra-s107-14506/
Mahindra KUV100 Electric Price, Launch Date, Specs, Range, Features
Nov 29, 2017 - Codenamed the S107, the Mahindra KUV100 electric could become
the world's most affordable electric SUV upon its launch here.
...
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Mahindra KUV100 Electric Car Launch in 2018 - 1:54
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Mahindra will launch an electrified version of its compact SUV the KUV100 by
the end of 2018, said Pawan ...

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Mahindra KUV100 Electric Launch In 2018 Indian automaker and currently the
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Mahindra KUV100 Electric spied in India for the first time ever
Nov 30, 2017 - Mahindra's next new electric vehicle for the Indian market is
expected to be the KUV100. There is now proof of this with an electric
variant of the KUV100 spotted testing on Indian roads. The KUV Electric will
be launched in India next year. It will also be showcased at the Indian Auto
Expo. The KUV Electric ...




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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Tesla-X-towing-an-1800kg-Alfa-Romeo-4C-Spider-races-a-Alfa-Romeo-4C-Spider-ice-v-tp4688807.html
EVLN: Tesla-X towing an 1800kg Alfa Romeo 4C Spider races a Alfa Romeo 4C
Spider ice (v)
"But the point here is that the Alfa 4C is a really, really fast car and the
Model X is so much faster that you have to put a 4,000-pound trailer on it
to make it as fast as a really fast car." ... the Model X represents the
pinnacle of electric vehicles ...

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EVLN: (spied)> M KUV100 e-SUV (codename S107)
Mahindra KUV100 Electric Spied Testing For The First Time
Mahindra & Mahindra looks poised to flood the market with electric vehicles
(EVs) when the boom begins. Mahindra had earlier confirmed that the company
will be introducing two new electric vehicles by the end of 2019 ...

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ME engineer,environmentalist,politician,innkeeper Cowger> gone Tesla-X Uber
driver
Hallowell man, sporting his electric Tesla, breaks into Uber market
Cowger said driving people around central Maine gives him another excuse to
drive his luxury electric vehicle, which is emblazed in the front and back
with license plates that read “NO FUMES.” He said a lot of people around
here don't even know what a Tesla is, so he appreciates the opportunity to
talk about the vehicle ...

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/DIY-Civic-EV-unm-edu-has-no-sound-or-rumble-exactly-how-it-s-supposed-to-be-tp4688804.html
DIY Civic EV @unm.edu> has no sound or rumble& exactly how it’s supposed to
be
I've used it to promote the use of electric vehicles ... Tomei also
considered the University of New Mexico-Los Alamos and Santa Fe Community
College ...A long-time proponent of the EV movement, Tomei ...




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[EVDL] Tesla-X towing an 1800kg Alfa Romeo 4C Spider races a Alfa Romeo 4C Spider ice (v)

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https://finance.nine.com.au/2017/12/01/14/38/tesla-model-x-beats-supercar-while-towing-an-1800kg-trailer
Tesla’s Model X races a sportscar towing an 1800kg trailer
2017/12/01  Stuart Marsh

Tesla CEO Elon Musk has posted a video to Instagram in which he pitted an
all-electric Tesla Model X against an Alfa Romeo sportscar in a drag race 0
and the Model X wins.

That would be surprising enough – considering the Alfa Romeo 4C Spider can
do 0-100km.h in 4.5 seconds – but there's a catch: The Model X was towing
another Alfa Romeo 4C Spider when it did it.

With the weight of the supercar and the trailer combined, the Model X was
towing roughly 1800kg, well within its factory tow limit of 2500 kg.

Whether it's a carefully scripted piece of Tesla advertising or a legitimate
test, the footage is incredible considering the 4C Spider weighs 1700 kg
less than the Model X.

The 4C is no slouch either. With a 1750 cc turbocharged four-cylinder engine
and weighing just 850kg, it's got a top speed of 258 km/h and can out-pace a
Lamborghini in a straight line.

Musk declined to provide comment on Instagram other than the simple label of
"Racing video part 2".

"This wasn't a scientific race and we didn't use any testing equipment
because frankly we thought it was a really stupid idea," says the voiceover
in the clip.

"But the point here is that the Alfa 4C is a really, really fast car and the
Model X is so much faster that you have to put a 4,000-pound trailer on it
to make it as fast as a really fast car."

Retailing for around $300,000 by the time you factor in Australia's luxury
car tax, the Model X represents the pinnacle of electric vehicles available
locally.

With all-wheel drive thanks to an independent electric motor on each wheel,
the Model X can go from 0-100 km/h in 3.1 seconds and its 100 kWh battery
provides drivers with 565 kilometres of range.
[© 2017 Nine Digital]



https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/886776/Tesla-Model-X-drag-race-supercar-towing-trailer
WATCH: Tesla Model X absolutely embarrasses supercar in drag race while
towing another car
Dec 1, 2017 - Elon Musk, Tesla's CEO, posted the video to his Instagram
account of the Model X towing a trailer carrying a car racing the Alfa
Romeo. Tesla Model X Alfa Romeo 4C Spider drag race INSTAGRAM•ELON MUSK
http://players.brightcove.net/2540076170001/ByveBcs0_default/index.html?videoId=5664293383001#t=7s
Tesla Model X races Alfa Romeo 4C Spider in drag race while towing another
car ...
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Watch This Tesla Beat an Alfa Romeo 4C, While Towing an Alfa Romeo 4C
May 27, 2016 - Motor Trend just took a Ludicrous Mode-equipped Tesla Model X
to a drag strip and raced it against an Alfa Romeo 4C. If I told you it won,
you wouldn't be terribly surprised -- that's one thing Tesla does really,
really well: accelerate in a straight line. But what if I told you it was
towing another Alfa Romeo 4C ...
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Tesla Model X Beats An Alfa Romeo In A Drag Race While Towing ...
www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhUWq9969B4P3K1ofj
May 29, 2016 - Why bring in the Alfa "supercar" that's actually not very
fast. You want a race? Spend LESS money and buy the vette. Or maybe you'd
rather race against a $80k Land Rover and then be amazed when you win? Big
deal... Ultimous Daine • 1 year ago. I been telling people these damn
Tesla's are no joke ...
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[videos
Tesla Model X with trailer vs Alfa Romeo Drag racing -  0:21
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Mar 23, 2016 - Uploaded by GreenCar
Tesla Model X Tows Alfa Romeo 4C In Crazy Drag Race Against Alfa Romeo 4C!
We've seen some ...

2018 Alfa Romeo Stelvio vs 2017 Tesla Model X - 3:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5GbvT5VgxY
Mar 8, 2017 - Uploaded by SUV Comparison
2018 Alfa Romeo Stelvio vs 2017 Tesla Model X
]
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Tesla Model X Tows Alfa Romeo 4C In Crazy Drag Race Against Alfa Romeo 4C –
Video
March 18, 2016 - This is not your typical drag race… Seen here is a Tesla
Model X P90D with Ludicrous towing an Alfa Romeo 4C in a drag race against
an Alfa Romeo 4C ...
https://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/race-1.jpg
...
https://electrek.co/2016/03/21/tesla-drag-race-alfa-romeo-vs-alfa-romeo-towed-by-model-x/
Ridiculous Tesla Drag Race: Alfa Romeo vs Alfa Romeo being towed by a Model
X
Mar 21, 2016 - We've seen some pretty ridiculous Tesla drag races over the
years, more recently a Model S vs a snowmobile, but this one easily takes
the first prize. At first glance, it might look like a fair fight, a Alfa
Romeo 4C versus a Alfa Romeo 4C, but the second one is actually being towed
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[EVDL] DIY Civic EV @unm.edu> has no sound or rumble& exactly how it’s supposed to be

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http://www.lamonitor.com/content/electric-vehicle-donation-sparks-interest
Electric vehicle donation sparks interest
December 8, 2017  Wren Propp

[images   / WREN PROPP/Monitor
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Tony Tomei, left, explains his electric vehicle to students of the EV crew –
a class studying the vehicles – at Los Alamos High School on Wednesday. From
left, Tomei, Kurt Michael Benner, Ryan Swart and Graem Taylor

http://www.lamonitor.com/sites/www.lamonitor.com/files/imagecache/slide-600/ev3.jpg
Tony Tomei converted a 1983 Honda Civic station wagon into an electronic
vehicle
]

The electric vehicle “crew” – seven advanced auto shop students at Los
Alamos High School – assembled in the dry cold of Wednesday morning outside
the classroom/shop building.

[image]  Auto shop students, members of the EV crew, talk with Tony Tomei in
the auto shop building Wednesday following Tomei’s donation of an electric
vehicle he modified from a 1983 Honda Civic station wagon. From left, Kurt
Michael Benner, Cameron Harlow, Colin Hehlen, Ryan Swart, Andrei Popa-Simil
and Tomei. 

They were going to take their first look at the innards of Tony Tomei’s
converted Honda Civic station wagon.

Tomei had decided more than a year ago that his hand-assembled electric
vehicle, or EV, a masterpiece of simplicity and silence, needed a home where
it would do the most good.

What better good than educating the future?

Still, there’s a little bit of a feeling of loss, he said.

“I’m a little sad. It’s been a lot of work and a lot of love. I’ve used it
to promote the use of electric vehicles,” he said.

Tomei’s neighbor, LAHS auto shop teacher Scott Pomeroy was one of those with
access to students. Tomei also considered the University of New Mexico-Los
Alamos and Santa Fe Community College, he said.

A long-time proponent of the EV movement, Tomei said he hoped to pass on the
knowledge he had acquired in the ways a four-wheel vehicle powered by
electricity by way of rechargeable batteries is different than one powered
by gasoline from fossil fuels.

The rise of EVs – advancing technology of batteries and lower costs – is the
one bright spot in what he sees as today’s fraught political climate, Tomei
said, before talking to the students.

“It’s blossomed and I think it will get better in 2018,” he said.

For more than an hour Wednesday, Tomei fielded questions, explained details,
and gave the seven students, and teacher Pomeroy, some hands-on knowledge.

The students said they hope to learn more from Tomei’s Honda in order to
convert a donated, small race-style vehicle into an electric-powered one.

He suggested that his EV is like a “Model T.”

It will provide tangible information for them, said student Colin Hehlen.

“Ninety percent of the vehicles in the future will be electric,” said Hehlen
...

Taylor explained that students in the auto shop had built an EV scooter,
which is still there for students to study and adapt.

Kurt Michael Benner and other members of the crew asked Tomei questions to
delve into the nuts and bolts of electric propulsion.

“Torque is going to be tough,” Benner said.

Driven by challenges in building robots, Andrei Popa-Simil said he’d like to
learn about how to make electric-driven engines go faster.

Tomei took the students on a tour of the vehicle, starting with an
explanation of the batteries under the hood, all the way to the little
station wagon’s back end, also with batteries.

He explained that when driving an electric car, drivers should rarely pass
up a charging station. That led to some hands-on understanding of the
batteries he installed in the Honda – and advances from battery developers
are dropping the costs of electric-car batteries and improving the length of
the charge.

“Make sure you plug her in,” Tomei told Pomeroy after they had wrapped up
the donation.

Before Wednesday’s meeting, Tomei explained that creation of electricity
used to power an EV, such as charging a battery, pollutes 50 percent less
than the gasoline used to power a traditional vehicle.

The system that makes EVs go feature far fewer parts than traditional
vehicles – compare less than 10 to 4,000-plus, he said.

Asked if they had been in electric vehicles, few of the students said “yes.”

So, one of the Wednesday’s strongest lessons may have occurred during their
first EV car ride.

Their expressions of surprise – and excitement – helped assure Tomei that he
had done the right thing.

They were wide-eyed, he said, as he drove the car – with no engine sound or
rumble, and shifted gears without a clutch

“They said `it’s not supposed to be like this.’”

“I said `this is exactly how it’s supposed to be.’”
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Re: [EVDL] 22 U.S. mayors Urged Congress to Not Throw out EV Rebates: (Kill-Bill ... Koch-Kool-Aid)

[Rush Dougherty via EV]

Bruce posted all these articles about the fact that this new 'Tax' bill is 
going 
to kill the federal EV credit.

Are people aware of this?

I certainly hope that they have written their representatives saying that they 
at 
least don't want the EV credit to be taken away, I have...

Rush Dougherty
Tucson AZ 85719

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> From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of brucedp5 via EV
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> Subject: [EVDL] 22 U.S. mayors Urged Congress to Not Throw out EV Rebates: 
> (Kill-Bill ...
> Koch-Kool-Aid)
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> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Kill-Bill-that-eliminates-nod-
> needed-7-5k-Fed-EV-Credit-Koch-Kool-Aid-inebriation-tp4688459p4688761.html
> ]
>
> http://www.motortrend.com/news/congress-urged-not-throw-ev-rebates/
> Congress Urged Not to Throw out EV Rebates December 8, 2017  Congress has been
> pushing to finalize a tax reform plan by the end of the year, and it could 
> have 
> consequences
> for the future of electric vehicles. Although the Senate wants to keep 
> federal 
> EV rebates, a
> proposal from the House would eliminate the $7,500 tax credit that consumers 
> receive for
> buying an electric vehicle. Now ...
> ...
> http://www.care2.com/causes/4-ways-the-gop-tax-plan-is-terrible-for-the-environment.html
> 4 Ways the GOP Tax Plan Is Terrible for the Environment December 8, 2017  At 
> points,
> Congress kicked around gutting the wind industry's tax energy credit by 40 
> percent, with solar
> energy taking additional but less devastating cuts. Although the Senate 
> ultimately decided not
> to include the ... A tax credit for electric vehicles is also in jeopardy. 
> Under 
> existing tax law,
> people who purchase an electric ...
> ...
> http://www.autonews.com/article/20171208/OEM05/171209790/congress-electric-vehicle-bill
> Mayors, industry press Congress to keep EV rebate in final tax bill December 
> 8, 
> 2017
> WASHINGTON -- Electric vehicle and clean-energy proponents are urging 
> Congress 
> to
> preserve a consumer tax credit they insist is critical to mass adoption of 
> the 
> technology . ...
> http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/daily-on-energy-mount-st-helens-eruption-risking-lives-
> 37-years-later/article/2177045
> Dec 8, 2017 ... AUTOMAKER TRADE GROUP URGES CONGRESS TO SAVE ELECTRIC
> CAR TAX CREDITS: The Electric Drive Transportation Association, representing 
> all
> segments of the electric car supply chain, sent a letter Thursday urging 
> Congress to save the
> $7,500 tax credit for electric vehicles in the tax reform legislation.
> The House version of the bill kills the subsidy, while the Senate does not.
> Now that both chambers have passed the bills, a conference committee has been 
> formed to
> reconcile the differences. So the credit could survive before going to 
> President 
> Trump's
> desk.
> "The Section 30D credit is working as intended to promote the deployment of 
> plug-in electric
> drive vehicles by multiple vehicle manufacturers and ensure that the United 
> States leads,
> rather than follows, in this critical advanced technology," said Genevieve 
> Cullen, the group's
> president. "U.S. leadership in EV technology expands our global 
> competitiveness 
> and
> creates domestic jobs."
> ...
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/07/climate/tax-overhaul-energy-wind-solar.html
> Renewable Energy Is Surging. The GOP Tax Bill Could Curtail That.
> Dec 7, 2017  The House bill's effects would be more direct, rolling back tax 
> credits for wind
> farms and electric vehicles, while increasing federal support for two nuclear 
> reactors under
> construction in Georgia. Fossil fuel producers are under little pressure in 
> either bill and some
> would stand to
> benefit: The Senate legislation would open the ...
> https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/12/07/climate/07CLI-TAXBILL1/07CLI-TAXBILL1-
> superJumbo-v2.jpg
> ...
> https://cleantechnica.com/2017/12/04/end-federal-ev-tax-credit-not-death-evs/
> End of Federal EV Tax Credit Would Not Be the Death of EVs Dec 4, 2017  
> Whether 
> or not
> the US Congress ends the tax credit for electric vehicles on December 31, 
> 2017, 
> it won't be
> a disaster for sales of electric cars in the US in 2018 and beyond. More on 
> that 
> in minute.
> First, when the Senate approved its version of new tax legislation on Friday, 
> December 1,
> there still was no mention of the ...
> https://c1cleantechnicacom-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/files/2017/09/model-x-bike-rack-white-
> right-wide-beach-570x428.jpg
> ...
> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1114098_if-you-plan-to-buy-an-electric-car-you-
> should-do-it-this-month
> If you plan to buy an electric car, you should do it this month Dec 1, 2017  
> But 
> this year, there
> may be another reason to buy a plug-in electric car by December 31. It's 
> possible that the
> U.S. income-tax credit of $2,500 to $7,500 for buying a 

Re: [EVDL] Why the EV will win over the ICE

[Rick Beebe via EV]

The simple solution has to solve the problem, though, and in this case they 
have a requirement that it run on gasoline. And electric motor controller 
doesn’t work so well for that.

--Rick

> On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Lee Hart via EV  wrote:
> 
> ROBERT via EV wrote:
>> I saw this article describing the a newly designed engine for an Infiniti 
>> Automobile.  In order to get fuel economy and performance from the engine, 
>> the design is very complex.  All this can be accomplished by software in an 
>> electric motor controller.  The simplest solution is always the best 
>> solution.
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[EVDL] Why the EV will win over the ICE

[ROBERT via EV]

I saw this article describing the a newly designed engine for an Infiniti 
Automobile.  In order to get fuel economy and performance from the engine, the 
design is very complex.  All this can be accomplished by software in an 
electric motor controller.  The simplest solution is always the best solution.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/under-pressure-the-science-behind-infiniti%e2%80%99s-variable-compression-ratio-engine/ss-BBGpvXP?li=BBnbfcL

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Under Pressure: The Science Behind Infiniti’s Variable-Compression-Ratio 
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Click on through to demystify the unique operating properties of the engine 
that recently debuted in the new 2019 Infiniti QX50.


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Re: [EVDL] Why the EV will win over the ICE

[Lee Hart via EV]

ROBERT via EV wrote:

I saw this article describing the a newly designed engine for an Infiniti 
Automobile.  In order to get fuel economy and performance from the engine, the 
design is very complex.  All this can be accomplished by software in an 
electric motor controller.  The simplest solution is always the best solution.


...but not the most profitable solution. :-/

Given the auto company's huge legacy in ICE technology, a "new" design 
is just a tiny tweak on an old design. That is quick and easy to make. 
Given today's cheap offshore parts and labor, a complex solution is also 
likely to be "cheap enough". So getting a bad solution on the market 
early is more profitable than a good solution later (especially when all 
you competitors are doing the same thing).


Finding the "best" solution takes more time. You also have to spend more 
money on R and engineering talent. That costs money *now*, and won't 
produce revenue until later. As the old saying goes, "a bird in the hand 
is worth two in the bush".


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