Re: [EVDL] Excellent article

2019-06-27 Thread Lee Hart via EV
paul dove via EV wrote: I don't believe that is true. I think it's just arrogance like when GM axed the EV1. Read the book The car that could to get a glimpse of the GM culture. Toyota has an enormous amount of clout in Japanese government, business and banking circles. Toyota pretty much

[EVDL] Quirky Spark EV charging phantom discharging

2019-06-27 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Thanks Paul That makes sense replacing the 12v battery as this appears to have gotten worse over time. With old lead batteries (this has 5 years use mid old) the DC DC converter tries to float charge the battery up to 14v but it won't go above 13v so it just keeps pumping current in. I'll

Re: [EVDL] Quirky Spark Charging Pattern

2019-06-27 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mark Hanson via EV wrote: My 2015 Spark (predicessor to Bolt) off peak charges to 100%. Then if I don't drive it for a day it drops to 80% showing 20% kWh used even though no one drove it. Is it running the air conditioner and heater or something just to waste some energy to put the battery

Re: [EVDL] Excellent article (was: Lets discourage hydrogen advocates. )

2019-06-27 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
The author claims the only real advantage to fuel cells is the fueling time. And that was two years ago. It's even less of an advantage now and the trend is continuing. The only other argument I can see would be the efficiency of the overall system, including generating hydrogen. The

[EVDL] BEV buses to operate in Seattle area

2019-06-27 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Department said. Buses from New Flyer, Proterra and BYD will be tested this year, followed by initial orders, spokesman Jeff Switzer said. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190627/e93e9

Re: [EVDL] Excellent article

2019-06-27 Thread paul dove via EV
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[EVDL] 2017 EVLN item: Excellent article (was: Lets discourage hydrogen advocates. )

2019-06-27 Thread brucedp5 via EV
I posted this back in 2017: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Toyota-admits-Elon-Musk-is-right-that-fcvs-are-incredibly-dumb-tp4688406.html Toyota admits 'Elon Musk is right'> that fcvs are incredibly dumb

Re: [EVDL] Quirky Spark Charging Pattern

2019-06-27 Thread paul dove via EV
org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190627/6f17fa54/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)

[EVDL] never ending siege: ... discourage hydrogen advocates

2019-06-27 Thread brucedp5 via EV
On one hand I didn't want to continue this offt thread or be accused of going against the evdl member voted-on charter that h2 fcv is verboten. On the other hand, after reading the members' posts, I felt I had to post what I've seen since when h2 and fcvs were being touted as an alternative to an

Re: [EVDL] Quirky Spark EV charging phantom discharging

2019-06-27 Thread Mike Beem via EV
nfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190627/2c012efd/attachment.html> _

[EVDL] EV charging time, Fueling time for Fuel Cells (was: Excellent article)

2019-06-27 Thread Bill Dube via EV
In reality, the only practical limit to the speed of EV charging is the size of the charger. Battery design and thermal management of the pack can keep up with any charger size. They are about to come out with 300 kW chargers. No joke. Fill you car up in a couple of minutes. Here is a paper

[EVDL] ?PD.lu purposely maintenance-drain Tesla-S pack every 20, 000km?

2019-06-27 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://www.electrive.com/2019/06/27/police-not-charged/ Police not charged Jun 27, 2019 Carrie Hampel [image https://www.electrive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Tesla-Model-S-Polizei-Luxemburg.jpg Luxemburg Tesla police EV ] In Luxemburg, a Tesla police car ran out of battery power on a

Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.

2019-06-27 Thread Willie via EV
On 6/26/19 8:46 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I'm curious, Willie, when meeting one-on-one with people, did you ever have the chance to breach the question of where the hydrogen comes from ? Some people, once engaged in a question, will at least listen. I came upon the situation

[EVDL] Quirky Spark Charging Pattern

2019-06-27 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Hi Folks My 2015 Spark (predicessor to Bolt) off peak charges to 100%. Then if I don't drive it for a day it drops to 80% showing 20% kWh used even though no one drove it. Is it running the air conditioner and heater or something just to waste some energy to put the battery down to 80% for

Re: [EVDL] Excellent article

2019-06-27 Thread Paul Wujek via EV
On 2019-06-26 9:43 p.m., Bill Dube via EV wrote: I really would like to know what motivates Toyota to keep pushing H2 passenger cars. I have always suspected that the Toyota H2 push is because of interference from the Japanese government and oil companies who likely hold a lot of sway in how

[EVDL] Excellent article (was: Lets discourage hydrogen advocates. )

2019-06-27 Thread Bill Dube via EV
Very well researched article on H2 fuel cells versus EV's. The article expertly covers the "what" but doesn't mention the "why" of Toyota and H2. I really would like to know what motivates Toyota to keep pushing H2 passenger cars. Bill D. On 6/27/2019 9:57 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:

[EVDL] VOA sez Eaton using 2nd life EV packs2 Power Football Stadiums.nl

2019-06-27 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/old-electric-car-batteries-used-to-power-football-stadiums/4973018.html Old Electric Car Batteries Used to Power Football Stadiums 20190626 Bryan Lynn [images https://gdb.voanews.com/4055CEEA-A3B7-441A-BB52-35EB02E4C6BD_w1023_r1_s.jpg This image from