Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Willie via EV
On 7/14/19 9:06 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: How hard would it be to build a battery system that normally supplies 100% of the domestic power but, when depleted, switches over to supply domestic power from the grid ? Also, I think it would be safe assumption, or at least a reasonable

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Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Actually, I am proposing something simpler than a power wall - that does not feed back to the grid. Maybe that simplification doesn't reduce the cost of the battery system much, but it would reduce the legal paper work down to a normal electrical permit. Peri -- Original Message --

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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2019-07-14 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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2019-07-14 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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2019-07-14 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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2019-07-14 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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2019-07-14 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV?

2019-07-14 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: I don't think the power companies are going to stop pushing back until they've effectively killed grid intertie. No, they're not going to kill it. They want to *control* it; to monopolize it and profit from it. It seems like their model is to promote large

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid, solar EV charging

2019-07-14 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
            Hi Paul and All,                  I've done cost effective RE offgrid for 45 yrs now replacing diesel generators, not that hard or expensive if done right.You can buy a solar system kit or parts online for under $1/wt grid tie too.  Then hire a local electrician to permit, do what

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2019-07-14 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
That was exactly my point, and I thought I said so. It may be that the battery isn't worth the cost. Maybe it's better to just install panels and lose the excess energy produced if your electric company makes it too hard or too expensive to give back to the grid. Why would anyone want to do

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread moskowitz via EV
We do pretty much what Bob says. We have a 9.6 kW solar array which is grid-intertied. We have time-of-day metering and are pretty much net-zero, even with charging our Chevy Volt. (Our home is Passive House-certified and all-electric.) We also keep 6 to 8 100-Amp old batteries on trickle

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2019-07-14 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Michael Ross via EV
> all > > >> > the utility wanted was to stop being annoyed by the alarms and > alerts > > >> > in the new software program that they were running to administer > the > > >> > smart me

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Tom Mandera via EV
I think it is about shifting the consumption (like a DVR shifts Prime Time TV) If instead of net-metering being 1:1 you have a sell at $.05 and a buy at $.10 then the 10kwh scenario is a net loss of $.50 not "net zero" If you have such a scenario, the battery can be used to shift your

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV?

2019-07-14 Thread Michael Ross via EV
http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 901-2805 Cell and Text (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
rag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV dra

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Willie via EV
On 7/14/19 11:28 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: What you described seems to be a net-metered system. You are buying and selling power to the grid. You produced say 10,000 kWh and you bought 10,000 kWh. For a NET energy payment to the utility of zero. The goal of any home solar system.

[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20190721

2019-07-14 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Bobby Keeland via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
>> > >>> Cost installed was about $13k. For smooth operation, I am highly > >> dependent on the utility to accept my excess power. > >>> > >>> ___ > >>&g

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2019-07-14 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 14 Jul 2019 at 12:16, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > But why are you so determined to use batteies when the cost of grid power is > ditrt cheap. I'm not the one you're addressing here, but since this concerns me too, I'll reply that unless the politics changes radically -- which seems

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
> So, the net benefit of the battery in my situation > is probably less than $1/day. But it is not needed at all since you are grid tied. And buying and selling power is the function of the net meter and has nothing to do with the battery. I still do not see any value to the battery in that

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: But why are you so determined to use batteries when the cost of grid power is dirt cheap. It all depends on where you live. Some states have net metering; some don't. Some even set up roadblocks, or utilities you a big penalty if you dare to generate your own

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread paul dove via EV
( >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >>> >> >> ___ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Please discuss EV drag racing a

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread paul dove via EV
r so months, I have bought less than 10kwh from my utility and >> sold >>>> them something like 10,000 kwh. That is with one battery unit. >>>>> >>>>> Cost installed was about $13k. For smooth operation, I am highly >>>> depen

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Jim Walls via EV
On 07/14/2019 10:41, Willie via EV wrote: I would be buying about 10kwh per night and paying about $.10/kwh.  Then, during the day, selling back at about $.06/kwh. That sucks (the buy vs sell cost ratio).  When I installed solar last year, I got switched to a Time Of Use account (did not

Re: [EVDL] Solar off grid with an EV? (transformers)

2019-07-14 Thread Michael Ross via EV
e 10,000 kwh. That is with one battery unit. > >>> > >>> Cost installed was about $13k. For smooth operation, I am highly > >> dependent on the utility to accept my excess power. > >>> > >>> _

[EVDL] Solar charging an EV

2019-07-14 Thread Jim via EV
I charge my Volts for what I consider nothing. Here in Phoenix on APS, (one of our 2 power Companies), I charge my 2 Chevy Volts during the day.. with my solar equipped house. Because I purchased and installed my solar before September of 2017, I am grandfathered for 20 years at the rate plan