[EVDL] EVLN: PatrasU Students' 1seat 110hp 235kg EV +production business plan

2014-11-12 Thread brucedp via EV
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2014/10/25/greek-students-from-patras-build-electric-car/ Greek Students from Patras Build Electric Car by Ioanna Zikakou - Oct 25, 2014 [image http://greece.greekreporter.com/files/uni-patras-car.jpg ] An electric car designed and built by Greek students was p

[EVDL] EVLN: Awesome Carpenter.cn Sporting His Woodie nEV r:20km ts:30kph

2014-11-12 Thread brucedp via EV
http://jalopnik.com/awesome-chinese-carpenter-made-his-own-electric-car-out-1652754729 Awesome Chinese Carpenter Made His Own Electric Car Out Of Wood Raphael Orlove [20141030] [images / China News/Getty http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--2syNhA69--/gne9njjfzn6jpphuvkl9.jpg h

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Trailing 12 months EPS isn't really relevant. Adjusted EPS was 11 cents a share in Q2 and 2 cents in Q3. Their Q4 guidance is 30-35 cents a share. Sounds like a newly profitable company to me. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Mike Nickerson wrote: > > Looking at a stock t

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2014-11-12 Thread Electric Blue auto convertions via EV
MB is right, they will never be a world shaker for sales, not till the last drop of oil is used up -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141112/ffa7cbb4/attachment.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
Looking at a stock ticker, their trailing twelve month EPS is -$1.35 and they don't have a PE ratio. I think they are turning the corner, but I wouldn't generally describe them as profitable yet. Mike On November 12, 2014 12:50:02 PM MST, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: >On Nov 12, 2014, at 8:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> >> >-- next part -- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: ><http://lists.evdl.org/pri

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
It is a matter of defining the business case, is it limited to the profit of selling cars (often unprofitable) or is it the whole pie: services, maintenance, profit from credits and so on. If the books are positive at the end of the year, do you really care where that came from as long as it is sus

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
On Nov 12, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > > Tesla isn't profitable (yet). Not correct. They've shown positive earnings the last 2 quarters, which makes what they've done quite extraordinary in such a short period of time. You might argue that the cars themselves are not profitable

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141112/d626b4e0/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Tesla isn't profitable (yet). Not to go all "citation needed," on you, but do you have any details on that? It's my understanding that they're bringing in more money than they're spending, but that they still have startup debts to pay off.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread Michael Ross via EV
o invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Chris Tromley via EV wrote: No money in EVs? It's a good thing Elon Musk doesn't know that. I seem to see more Model S's around where I live than newish Mercedes. Tesla isn't profitable (yet). Like David said, EVs are a long-term investment. The automakers that are complaining are the ones w

[EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 Nov 2014 at 0:26, brucedp via EV wrote: > Anyone seeing an automaker pattern here? I read the same thing about the gas-only "hybrids" 10 years ago - though it's interesting to note that back then - as today - some automotive managers said "they can't be made profitable" while others said,

[EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread brucedp via EV
% Anyone seeing an automaker pattern here? Dejavu % http://gas2.org/2014/11/07/money-evs-says-mercedes-chief/ No Money In EV’s Says Mercedes Chief [2014/11/07] [image http://gas2.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/mercedes-b-class-ED-2.jpg mercedes-b-class-ED-2 ] Mercedes chief Dieter Zetsche wa

[EVDL] EVLN: Boosted Boards’ New Faster And Cheaper e-Skateboards

2014-11-12 Thread brucedp via EV
http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/06/electric-skateboards/ Feet-On With Boosted Boards’ New Faster And Cheaper Electric Skateboards 2014/11/06 by Josh Constine [images https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/boosted-electric-board-vehicle-bridge.jpg https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wo

[EVDL] EVLN: $5k cheap Electric-slowriders in (ice-lowriders out)

2014-11-12 Thread brucedp5 via EV
Pimp my custom personalized e-cart up2 $30k ts:25mph http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20141108/BETTERLIVING/141109787?Title=Pimp-my-golf-cart Pimp my golf cart By Terry Reilly November 8, 2014 [image http://www.starnewsonline.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=WM&Date=20141108&Category=BETTER