Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and electric car charging

2016-06-07 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Larry Gales via EV wrote: Thanks, I was somewhat aware of the increased use of copper, but not to the extent that you specify, so it looks like AC is the way to go, even for off-grid solar. Lower voltage means higher current and bigger wires; but it's not as bad as you think. First,

Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-07 Thread Cruisin via EV
Do NOT use a Li-ion 12vdc battery in your Tesla. It probably is a 12vdc, not a 13.5vdc like the lead/acid is. You will destroy the Li-ion. -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/12v-tales-tp4682367p4682446.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle

Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-07 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-07 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Also, one particular thing that I like a lot about Meanwell is that they actually specify their power supplies to work from DC. Usually 130 - 370 VDC. And it is a Taiwanese company, so they tend to supply higher quality than China. The SP-750 has a built-in PFC front end, not important for DC

Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-07 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 7 Jun 2016 at 12:17, Jan Steinman via EV wrote: > Almost any oeuniversal switching power supply designed to work from 120 to > 240 VAC without changing jumpers or switches IS a traction pack power > converter! The main difference is a full-wave bridge on the input, which means > you don't even

Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-07 Thread Peter C. Thompson via EV
Completely agree - with a small reservation: You don't want to use a no-name converter in your expensive car. I made that mistake once, won't do it again. I will only use name-brand equipment. In my EV's case, I'm using the Meanwell 750W 15V (SP-750-15). I've turned the voltage down to

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and electric car charging

2016-06-07 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> >> >> >> >> -- next part

Re: [EVDL] Current limiting

2016-06-07 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-07 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
One thing I haven’t seen mentioned here is that power converters specifically designed to convert traction pack voltage to 12 VDC are expensive, whereas generic power supplies that do the same thing for line voltage are cheap. Almost any “universal” switching power supply designed to work from

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...

2016-06-07 Thread Roland via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Current limiting

2016-06-07 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Bill Collins via EV wrote: The resting voltage of a lead acid battery is significantly lower than the voltage required to charge it. For example: a fully charged 12 volt battery has a resting voltage of 12.6, but will not draw much current unless you apply 13.5 volts or so. This means that when

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and electric car charging

2016-06-07 Thread Larry Gales via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and electric car charging

2016-06-07 Thread robert winfield via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and electric car charging

2016-06-07 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
> If you build an off-grid solar house and use it for both your house > and charging your electric car, are there any disadvantages for using > DC current (household appliances can all be converted to DC) and > avoiding AC since you are off the grid? You avoid the cost, > maintenance, and

[EVDL] Lead Acid charging...

2016-06-07 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Finally, Back to Lead acid and a FOUR WIRE EV! (Something I can maintain)! (4 wires, means 2 from the battery, and 2 to the motor and a controller in the middle. Done)... I have given up on modern EV's (two THINKs) who are BRICKS because the computer in them thinks something is wrong and they

Re: [EVDL] Current limiting

2016-06-07 Thread Bill Collins via EV
That would be an extremely short lived event. Once current starts to flow, delta voltage will decrease rapidly. > On June 7, 2016 at 9:33 AM paul dove wrote: > > > Easy to calculate > V=IR or I=V/R > R should be very small in the case of connecting with wires or

Re: [EVDL] Current limiting

2016-06-07 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Current limiting

2016-06-07 Thread Bill Collins via EV
The resting voltage of a lead acid battery is significantly lower than the voltage required to charge it. For example: a fully charged 12 volt battery has a resting voltage of 12.6, but will not draw much current unless you apply 13.5 volts or so. This means that when you connect two batteries

[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20160607

2016-06-07 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: 1st Responders cut open Tesla Model X EV (v)

2016-06-07 Thread brucedp5 via EV
% Slow paced instructional might be more palatable at 2x speed, hidden pull cords to open frunk & doors (?good info for thieves?), destruction starts at 14min point % http://www.autoblog.com/2016/06/02/watch-fire-department-slice-open-model-x/ Watch a fire department slice open a Tesla Model X

Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-07 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Barry Oppenheim via EV wrote: Slightly OT, does anyone have a good way to add manual function to a HV contactor? It would be nice to be able to turn on the DC/DC converter manually in case of 12V failure without having to rig a jumper. I vaguely remember that one of the OEM EV's had such a

Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-07 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Is it more expensive to design semiconductors to switch 10 amps at 12 volts, or 0.4 amps at 300 volts? That's not a rhetorical question: I don't know. You generally pay by the watt. Similar price to switch 12v at 100a, or 120v at 10a, etc. You could

[EVDL] EV buyers guide App Kickstarter

2016-06-07 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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