Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report

2016-12-12 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
n in terms of electric versus ICE miles. Though perhaps they got their data from places completely different! Sent from AltaMail From: EVDL Administrator via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report D

Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report

2016-12-12 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 7:46 AM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report Yes,

Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report

2016-12-12 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
bject: Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report Although "fake news" has recently been noted by some media outlets, it has been around for decades. The first organized effort in the U.S. began with Edward Bernays, Sigmund Freud's nephew. Bernays coined the term "public relations&qu

Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report

2016-12-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 Dec 2016 at 22:41, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > I guess this is how "fake news" originates. You could say that, but the term "fake news" is just a new name for an ancient problem: propaganda. Wealthy and influential people and institutions don't take well to change when it might affect

Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report

2016-12-12 Thread tomw via EV
Although "fake news" has recently been noted by some media outlets, it has been around for decades. The first organized effort in the U.S. began with Edward Bernays, Sigmund Freud's nephew. Bernays coined the term "public relations" because he said "propaganda" had negative connotations.

Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report

2016-12-11 Thread Bill Dube via EV
An prime example of the misinformation presented in this _non-peer-reviewed_ report shows up on page 7, where the report states: "Survey data reveals that BEVs are driven an average of 27% fewer miles per year than comparable ICEVs, but BEV owners still travel the same total miles as their ICEV

Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report

2016-12-11 Thread paul dove via EV
ADL is an obvious think tank. I don't know for sure if they are biased but I have never seen a serious research paper list car and driver magazine as a source. I suspect oil company funding. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 11, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Joe Fields via EV wrote: > >

Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report

2016-12-11 Thread Peter C. Thompson via EV
oe Fields via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: Sent: 11-Dec-16 3:29:34 PM Subject: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report Recently I saw this report from the management consulting firm A. D. Little referenced in a Wall Street Journal opinion piece by Holman W. Jenkin

Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report

2016-12-11 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
lds via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: Sent: 11-Dec-16 3:29:34 PM Subject: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report Recently I saw this report from the management consulting firm A. D. Little referenced in a Wall Street Journal opinion piece by Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.: http

[EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report

2016-12-11 Thread Joe Fields via EV
Recently I saw this report from the management consulting firm A. D. Little referenced in a Wall Street Journal opinion piece by Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.: http://www.adlittle.us/uploads/tx_extthoughtleadership/ADL_BEVs_vs_ICEVs_FINAL_November_292016.pdf The report claims that BEVs have only a