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2016-08-05 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
Hmm. I never thought about it that way. I live in a rural farming area and actually have 480V 3 phase power on my property to run irrigation pumps. The kind of pumps that supply a pivot system that waters 80 acres. That would make a heck of a fast charger! Mike On August 4, 2016 10:59:37

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2016-08-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 4 Aug 2016 at 11:59, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > If he's in the USA, he won't have 3-phase power in his home. But he > *will* have 240v 200a single-phase service. That's 48kw if you dedicate > it all to the charger. These days some "mc-mansions" are being built with 400a service. David Roden

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2016-08-04 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
part of this message is prohibited. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Danny Ames via EV Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 10:43 AM To: Lee Hart; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] PG's EV Charging Plan Still Angers Industry Players

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2016-08-04 Thread Danny Ames via EV
Till we get a TSLA Power wall engineered accordingly. From: Lee Hart via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] PG's EV Charging Plan Still Angers Industry Players ... R

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2016-08-04 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Russ Sciville via EV wrote: >> Surely no-one would wish a Rapid to operate at 240v 1 ph? Most assuredly, someone will! The same guy that wants and can afford a top-of-the-line luxury EV is going to want a top-of-the-line luxury fast charger. If he's in the USA, he won't

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2016-08-04 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Thu Aug 04 08:44:09 PDT 2016 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >This is in the ball park of an average North American home these days. It's >likely the local transformer has sufficient overcapacity for one or two >additional homes in a subdivision so it's possible. Not the best solution but >if it's

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2016-08-04 Thread Haritech (Gmail) via EV
t; Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2016, 21:51 > Subject: Re: [EVDL] PG's EV Charging Plan Still Angers Industry Players ... > > 44KW at 240V is about 185 amps (likely more because of conversion losses and > voltage drop). That makes for very large wire. > > Jim Walls >

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2016-08-04 Thread Russ Sciville via EV
supply is boosted to 400vDC as most Rapids work at.  From: Jim Walls via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2016, 21:51 Subject: Re: [EVDL] PG's EV Charging Plan Still Angers Industry Players ... 44KW at 2

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2016-08-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Aug 2016 at 13:51, Jim Walls via EV wrote: > 44KW at 240V is about 185 amps (likely more because of conversion losses and > voltage drop). That makes for very large wire. Sure, but requiring 480v service limits where you can locate chargers. And in some cases it would require installing

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2016-08-03 Thread Jim Walls via EV
To: "Cor van de Water" <cwa...@proxim.com>, "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] PG's EV Charging Plan Still Angers Industry Players ... Doesn't that just defer the cost to installation? Seems like you would need bigger w

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2016-08-03 Thread paul dove via EV
or copying of any part of this message is > prohibited. > > > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of paul dove via EV > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:32 PM > To: EVDL Administrator; Electric Vehicle Discussion List >

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2016-08-02 Thread paul dove via EV
| | | |   | From: EVDL Administrator via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] PG's EV Charging Plan Still Angers Industry Players ... On 2 Aug 2016 at 1:03, brucedp5 via EV wrote: &

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2016-08-02 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:32 PM To: EVDL Administrator; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] PG's EV Charging Plan Still Angers Industry Players ... Do you know of a DC fast charger that has a lower price? All the ones I looked at were in this ballpark. Sent from my iPhone

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2016-08-02 Thread Lee Hart via EV
PG´s proposal would require all EV charger hosts to charge their customers based on prescribed time-of-use rates ... EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: I think I see what PGE are doing, but why should they get to stipulate what the CUSTOMER pays? Because they can? Or at least, they can try?

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2016-08-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 2 Aug 2016 at 1:03, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > $22 million for 1,500 EV chargers ... A charger costs $14,667? Seriously? Good grief. > But PG´s proposal would require all EV charger hosts to charge their > customers based on prescribed time-of-use rates ... I think I see what PGE are

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2016-08-02 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/pges-ev-charging-plan-still-angers-industry-players-and-heres-their-alterna PG’s EV Charging Plan Still Angers Industry Players—and Here’s Their Alternative July 26, 2016 Jeff St. John A counter-proposal seeks to scale back scope and open up