Re: [EVDL] Lithium battery setpoints...

2014-07-31 Thread Jukka Järvinen via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: $11k Nye's 144V Isuzu truck EV $ave$ in Perry County, PA (video)

2014-07-31 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: Leaf vs i3 vs e-Golf> EV Comparisons.de

2014-07-31 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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Re: [EVDL] HPEVS selling in Russia, tacky.

2014-07-31 Thread Richard Miller via EV
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Re: [EVDL] HPEVS selling in Russia, tacky.

2014-07-31 Thread Evan Tuer via EV
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[EVDL] To Noalox, or Not to Noalox (was: Lithium battery setpoints...)

2014-07-31 Thread Bill Dube via EV
Here is an article describing how to make aluminum to copper connections, and when to use (and when not to use) oxide inhibiting paste: http://www.stabiloy.com/NR/rdonlyres/AD9F20D3-FA28-4662-A013-A154C569435C/0/AluminumBuildingWireInstallationandTerminations.pdf The cell manufacturer gives no g

Re: [EVDL] Lithium battery setpoints...

2014-07-31 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVDL biz: H2 and FCEV discussion

2014-07-31 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
Hi Mark, I'll lay my cards on the table and say that I am distinctly anti H2 - *as a short to medium-term serious contender for the replacement of petrol and diesel-powered vehicles*. I have no massive problem with research continuing into fuel cells whether powered by H2 or anything else. Ho

Re: [EVDL] To Noalox, or Not to Noalox (was: Lithium battery setpoints...)

2014-07-31 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-07-31 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
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Re: [EVDL] To Noalox, or Not to Noalox (was: Lithium battery setpoints...)

2014-07-31 Thread Bill Dube via EV
That is the theory and it seems to be confirmed by two experiments. When the cells arrive, the terminals are often noticeably covered with corrosion. Perhaps this corrosion is due to prolonged exposure to the sea environment during shipment, or to corrosive chemicals used during manufacture. I

Re: [EVDL] To Noalox, or Not to Noalox (was: Lithium battery setpoints...)

2014-07-31 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-07-31 Thread Bill Dennis via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Lithium battery setpoints...

2014-07-31 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Michael Ross wrote: In air, aluminum oxide forms nearly instantly. Therefore, sanding is a useless activity, if the goal is to remove aluminum oxide... You're right; aluminum oxide forms very quickly. However, the longer it is exposed to air, the thicker the insulating layer gets. So cleaning

Re: [EVDL] Lithium battery setpoints...

2014-07-31 Thread Michael Ross via EV
happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, "The summer day." To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quo

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-07-31 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] To Noalox, or Not to Noalox

2014-07-31 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Michael Ross via EV wrote: I can't for the life of me figure out why a highly resistive dielectric grease (mentioned by others) is a better choice than a conductive grease... The grease is only filling the gaps (asperities) between the two metals. There is no grease at the contact points -- it

Re: [EVDL] To Noalox, or Not to Noalox

2014-07-31 Thread Bill Dube via EV
At 01:41 PM 7/31/2014, Lee Hart via EV wrote: I find it depressing to see how badly designed the terminals are on these cells. My first reaction was "what idiot would use aluminum for high-current connections in a high harsh automotive environment?" I agree totally. However, you get what you

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-07-31 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Ben Goren via EV wrote: Thanks, Jerry. A 200+ mile BEV Ghia certainly sounds like a fantastic car... The Ghia happened to have several attractive attributes for an EV. It was very light, it was reasonable aerodynamics, and enough room for batteries. John Bryan's Ghia was one example. He caref

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-07-31 Thread George Tyler via EV
That Mustang is probably worth more than a new electric car in some parts of the world. Sell it and buy a car that would make a better electric with the money? http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/ford/auction-748754922.htm -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.or

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: car bought

2014-07-31 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVDL biz: H2 and FCEV discussion

2014-07-31 Thread rayfellow via EV
Hi MW. I think your post hits the EV vs FC issues square on the head. I am a lurker, mostly, and crave information about the future of personal transportation. When I talk with others about what's out there, I find it most useful to understand the difference between EV, FC and ICE. The efficency di

Re: [EVDL] To Noalox, or Not to Noalox (was: Lithium battery setpoints...)

2014-07-31 Thread Lawrence Harris via EV
; *Dalai Lama * > > Tell me what it is you plan to do > With your one wild and precious life? > Mary Oliver, "The summer day." > > To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. > Thomas A. Edison > <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/tho

Re: [EVDL] Lithium battery setpoints...

2014-07-31 Thread Roland via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVDL biz: H2 and FCEV discussion

2014-07-31 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Hi Martin, Nice post. See below. On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Martin WINLOW via EV wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > I'll lay my cards on the table and say that I am distinctly anti H2 - *as a > short to medium-term serious contender for the replacement of petrol and > diesel-powered vehicles*. OK

Re: [EVDL] Lithium battery setpoints...

2014-07-31 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
a little knowledge may gain some understanding. And, I > hope people will *measure it for themselves*. That's far better than >listening to experts debating how many electrons can dance on the head > of a pin. :-) > -- >The definition of research: Shoot the arro