Re: [Evangelism] Numbers
There are more than 200 developers with commit rights, the number of active contributors varies depending on how you define it. From Ohloh: Over the past twelve months, 81 developers contributed new code to Plone. That number has been steadily rising, for what it's worth. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Matt Hamilton ma...@netsight.co.uk wrote: Well plone.net currently says 334 providers in 61 countries, so it has gone up a bit. As for core developers... I presume they mean there those with commit rights... I'm not sure, someone else with access to plone.org would have to get that data. -Matt On 24 Mar 2010, at 13:36, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: Hi all, we want to make T-Shirts and print on the back a short version of the big text of plone.org Plone is among the top 2% of all open source projects worldwide, with 200 core developers and more than 300 solution providers in 57 countries. The project has been actively developed since 2001, is available in more than 40 languages, and has the best security track record of any major CMS. Are the numbers correct or did they change? juh DZUG e.V. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- Matt Hamilton ma...@netsight.co.uk Netsight Internet Solutions, Ltd. Understand. Develop. Deliver http://www.netsight.co.uk +44 (0)117 9090901 Web Design | Zope/Plone Development Consulting | Co-location | Hosting ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Conference kit? And Plone booth at PyCon 2010
Matt Hamilton / Netsight (CCed) have some FANTASTIC brochures that will make everyone else jealous. I don't know how hard it'll be to organize the logistics of shipping them, or whether you should get the paper spec from Matt and print locally. (I can't overstate how important it is to print on the right type of paper, btw :) On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:49 PM, cjj c...@ifpeople.net wrote: Hi folks, After over a month after requesting it...we finally got word that Plone will have a booth at PyCon 2010 (here in Atlanta in just 3 weeks!). That's a very short heads up time, so I wanted to catch up and see if there was a booth kit available. I know there has been much talk of it over time and we could really use it for both PyCon and NTEN (both here in Atlanta). In case that idea is still just imaginary, here's what I'm looking for: - Banner or info and graphics file for having a banner printed - materials (or files for printing them) to provide overview of Plone We have bumper stickers and the little device stickers here. If there is any other goodies for booth, then those would be great too. Also, if you're coming to PyCon, please let me know! We need help manning the booth Friday and Saturday, from 10am till 4pm. If you're willing to put in some time, please indicate that too. Thanks and hope to see you in Atlanta! Best, Chris -- www.ifpeople.net t: 678-608-3408 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Conference-kit-And-Plone-booth-at-PyCon-2010-tp4498924p4498924.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] CMS exchange on EDUCAUSE Web Administrators list
Nate, Send an email to Geir? He's been handling and consolidating the foundation's domains lately. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Nate Aune na...@jazkarta.com wrote: Hi Mike, I'd like to get an update on what's happening with the PloneEdu site. I still own these domain names, and they are all expiring on Feb. 2nd. PLONEEDU.COM PLONEEDU.INFO PLONEEDU.ORG PLONENGO.COM PLONENGO.INFO PLONENGO.ORG I would love to transfer these to the Plone Foundation and then have them pointing to the appropriate IP address. Nate On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Alexander Limi l...@plone.org wrote: Hi Tom, There is indeed a group of people doing Edu stuff with Plone, and the WebLion folks are part of that. I'm a bit out of the loop on what they have been doing lately, but they aim to have PloneEdu set up as a group to handle these things. I've CCed Mike Halm here, he should be able to fill you in on what they are doing. — Alexander On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Clark, Tom tomcl...@shawu.edu wrote: Plonefolk, Some of you will know the EDUCAUSE organization that covers the higher education technology space. I lurk on one of their lists, for 'Web Administrators.' Someone is hosting a 'Drupal Bootcamp' and asked others on the list if they had any experience managing such an event. While no one said much about how to host the event, there were several quick replies about organizing a Drupal sub-community (including someone from my local, deep-pocketed alma mater and ex-employer; who also has an active Plone community--TriPZUG--which I participate in as I can). The exchange seemed like a missed opportunity or something and made me wonder if there more plans anything similar for Plone. I recall a 'Plone4Ed' group, but it seems they never got past deciding on a name. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that. I work in higher ed and am actively trying to use Plone--love to know about others doing the same. I have learned much from Penn State's WebLion stuff (many thanks for FSD!), but I'm thinking I'm need something more entry level. I'm just learning to drive and their discussion is so much about repairing the Lexus : ) Any thoughts welcome. TC Tom Clark, MLS Director, Wiggins Library Shaw University Divinity School 919-716-5518 tomcl...@shawu.edu -Original Message- From: evangelism-boun...@lists.plone.org [mailto:evangelism-boun...@lists.plone.org] On Behalf Of evangelism-requ...@lists.plone.org Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 6:55 AM To: evangelism@lists.plone.org Subject: Evangelism Digest, Vol 30, Issue 1 Send Evangelism mailing list submissions to evangelism@lists.plone.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to evangelism-requ...@lists.plone.org You can reach the person managing the list at evangelism-ow...@lists.plone.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Evangelism digest... Today's Topics: 1. [DW] Query - Are any government-focused open source consortiums still operational? (Csaba Madar?sz) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:14:29 +0100 From: Csaba Madar?sz madarasz.cs...@gmail.com Subject: [Evangelism] [DW] Query - Are any government-focused open source consortiums still operational? To: evangelism@lists.plone.org Message-ID: c1fa695a1001060514n47d74dbai5def260083d1a...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi There, I am Csaba, working with Balazs in Hungary, and have run into this question at dowire.org. I think, we can add plonegov, but do you have other thing in your mind to share? Let me know pls.. Cheers Madarász Csaba tel.:+36703643482 Google Talk: madarasz.csaba Skype: bpanther360 Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/mcsaba Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/csabam Youtube http://www.youtube.com/kiazami Twitterhttp://www.tiwitter.com/kiazami del.icio.us http://delicious.com/kiazami Blog RSShttp://nyilt.org/main/rss.xml NyÃlt.org FSFE: EC caves in to proprietary lobbyists on interoperability http://nyilt.org/szabvany/FSFE_EC_caves_in_to_proprietary_lobbyists_on_interoperability -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven Clift cl...@e-democracy.org Date: 2010/1/6 Subject: [DW] Query - Are any government-focused open source consortiums still operational? To: newswire newsw...@groups.dowire.org I am noticing an uptick in interest again in promoting open source for use in government technology. This time more on economic reality grounds than philosophical. Are any government
[Evangelism] Re: noted: python.reddit.com sent me quite a bit of traffic
Yup, the Python subreddit has a lot of Python people, which is why I put it there. We should especially jump in and help correct the perception that people have from trying Plone 3 years ago. Some of the comments are very uninformed or plain incorrect. But Reddit should definitely be one of our developer evangelism channels. PS: Reddit is written in Python, which is also a reason they have such a good Python community. 2010/1/21 Jon Stahl jonst...@gmail.com Just wanted to close the loop here with some stats: I saw that Alex submitted my Plone 4 is three times faster... article to http://python.reddit.com. (Thanks, Alex!) Of the 893 visits that the page got yesterday, it appears (from Google Analytics) that 229 referred by reddit.com. That's considerably more than came from twitter.com (97, although that almost certainly doesn't include those who came via non-web twitter clients), or Facebook (54). My conclusion: it's worth the effort to post hot Plone-related news items or blog posts to python.reddit.com, if we want them to reach an audience of interested pythonistas. best, jon -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] CMS exchange on EDUCAUSE Web Administrators list
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Re: [Evangelism] Govt Tender and JCR standard
It's been a while since I was in the business of answering RFPs, but here's something I used in an RFP that asked for JSR168: Plone has a flexible and powerful framework for managing portlets. Portlets can be developed and shared as separate components and have contracts with their containing environment, similar to JSR168 and other Java-based standards. Plone's portlet framework has focused on providing the needed functionality for Plone. Complying with JSR168 was not considered a priority in the initial implementation, but is something that can be added if the deployment requires it. This will add additional development cost. They usually just ask for these because they are checkbox items that they have been told to ask for. If you can demonstrate similar functionality, and have the door open for developing integration with Java-based standards should they ever need it (which almost always ends up not being a priority), they usually don't see it as a big deal. -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net 2009/12/14 Matt Hamilton ma...@netsight.co.uk Hi All, I've got a govt tender in front of me which is mandating: 1. Portal supporting full JSR 170 and a roadmap to support JSR 283 Content Repository API 2. WCM supporting JSR 168 and JSR 286. Which effectively mandates a Java solution. One other company has asked 'Will you still consider a CMS solution which is not Java based?' to which their (rather lame) reply was 'We have an open mind and will consider all responses equally'. Has anyone here managed to come up with a good bit of text which suitably answers their question? Something along the lines of 'Plone does not support JSR standards as it is not a Java CMS, but we do support equivalent standards such as'? -Matt -- Matt Hamilton ma...@netsight.co.uk Netsight Internet Solutions, Ltd. Understand. Develop. Deliver http://www.netsight.co.uk +44 (0)117 9090901 Web Design | Zope/Plone Development Consulting | Co-location | Hosting ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] cost comparison
Also, TCO usually means we couldn't find any other way to justify the cost of our product, and we're taking a beating in the market right now, so we made up* this totally arbitrary calculation that shows our competitor as being harder to use / weird to set up / too communist. * aka. paid a company to make charts At least that's what usually happens when Microsoft starts touting TCO numbers. ;) -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.] ken.wase...@contextualcorp.com wrote: Virginia, I had mentioned this Sharepoint cost calculator link when adding to Francesco's blog post comparing Plone and Sharepoint too. Besides the cost factor, it couldn't hurt you to re-read his (two-part?) blog post regarding the Plone vs. Sharepoint comparison. http://francescociriaci.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/plone-vs-moss-round-1/ I had helped a for-profit university evaluate commercial CMS tools a few years ago and they chose RedDot. At the time, the price for their .Net-based CMS plus their Java-based personalized portal delivery engine, plus a 'Quick Start' where a small portion of the website was themed/implemented was to run about $330K in US$. Teamsite was in that evaluation as well, and their offering is broken up into many modules, so it's harder to compare, but this client would have paid a bit more for what they needed from IWOV than what the RedDot (now OpenText) price was, even. Probably not a lot more, though. Seems like the bigger players such as Autonomy/Interwoven/Teamsite, OpenText/Vignette, etc. are in the 350-500K US$ range by the time you buy licenses for not only your production servers, but also development and/or staging. Not to mention that the per-hour integrator rates I was seeing were in the $175+/hr range US$, which is 30-40% more than most Plone shops will charge. Plus, you should build a comparison that looks at year 2, 3, etc. With the commercial tools, the client will be paying 20%/year of license cost just to keep up with patches/upgrades, no on-site services, just emergency support, access to the online knowledge base, forums, etc. If you do a 3-year Total Cost of Ownership comparison, I can't imagine the other tools, even Sharepoint, coming close to Plone on a financial basis, but others would disagree. -Ken Nate Aune wrote: i don't know about Reddot or Teamsite, but the Sharepoint calculator can be used to determine the total cost of ownership if you have to buy all the user licenses and software licenses for the other dependent Microsoft products. http://community.bamboosolutions.com/blogs/sharepoint-price-calculator/default.aspx found via Cynapse blog: http://www.cynapse.com/blog/cynin-low-cost-alternative-sharepoint Nate On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Virginia Choy virgi...@pretaweb.commailto: virgi...@pretaweb.com wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any documentation about total cost of ownership or general cost comparisons between deploying Plone, Sharepoint, Teamsite,, RedDot or any other proprietary enterprise solution? Thanks Virginia ~ Virginia Choy Business Development Manager PretaWeb - Plone Open Source Enterprise Web Solutions Suite 2, Level 6, 99 York Street, Sydney 2000 NSW Australia P: 612-8081-9072 M: 0423-198-306 W: www.pretaweb.com http://www.pretaweb.com Sales Support: 02-9955-2830 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org mailto:Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com mailto:na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea http://tungle.me/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: WPDx2
I agree with Ken, don't schedule it on the same day as Earth Day. We have a lot of non-profits that are quite busy that day. :) Always useful to check Wikipedia for a suggested date: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_22#Holidays_and_observances Looking forward to WPD 2010! — Alexander On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:51:17 -0700, ctxlken ken.wase...@contextualcorp.com wrote: Hi Roberto, I could help you with the English press release, if you'd like, and have an idea of what you want to have stated. Also, if I'm not mistaken, this past year the World Plone Day competed with Earth Day for April 22nd.nbsp; I'd recommend against doing that again next year, unless others think that 'piggy-backing' on Earth Day might have given us any advantage. Once again, nice job getting this idea launched and building upon its success each year! Ken Wasetis Original Message Subject: [Evangelism] WPDx2 From: Roberto Allende (via Nabble) lt;ml-user+19463-786882...@n2.nabble.comgt; Date: Mon, July 13, 2009 3:35 pm To: ctxlken lt;ken.wase...@contextualcorp.comgt; Hello I'm writing in order to move forward two issues of WPD. Then first one is the postmortem document, the second one is the 2010 edition date. Postmortem document I need help from one or more volunteers to write a news/press release of wpd2009. Based on the results and the last year one, it could be a very easy task to do for anyone who has good skills writing in english and it would be a huge contribution for the event. If you're interested just contact me. WPD 2010 date We need to define a date for WPD 2010 edition. Last year this discussion was long and it is difficult to reach consensus when we talk about a worldwide event, but probably we could start it getting answer from 2 questions: - Shall we keep april as the month for WPD ? - Shall we keep doing it in a weekday as Wednesday ? I suggest to start wpd2010 planning with these points, once defined we can move forward improving it and get into other important topics. Kind Regards r. -- http://robertoallende.com ___ Evangelism mailing list evangel...@... http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism View message @ http://n2.nabble.com/WPDx2-tp3252857p3252857.html To start a new topic under Evangelism, email ml-node+293364-1526811...@n2.nabble.com To unsubscribe from Evangelism, click here . -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: Top 15 Questions... Final Draft
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:23:14 +0200, Chris Barnes ch...@txbarnes.com wrote: In fact, this is my main complaint with Plone in general. It might very well be easy to use for the end users - but to run the entire system requires a person who is well versed in Zope/python. To run it — I'd say no. To customize it, absolutely. There's use as in end user, and use as in develop for / customize. We are very much aware that the current approach where Plone straddles multiple large pieces of infrastructure (Zope 2, Zope 3 and the CMF), is not ideal. The other option would be to dump our current user base and restart development in pure Zope 3 (or something else), which was an option that was deemed too risky. I'm a computer administrator by profession - and *I* haven't been able to get a Plone site up and running yet. What does that say for the average user? Iow, the kb needed to run maintain a Plone system is WAY under stated. With the latest advancements in configuration and setup tools (buildout being among the major changes here), the core part of this problem will be in much better shape than it was a year ago. The main problem as I see it at the moment is that not all documentation is current, but the team is working on updating the documentation to the current state of the art. I have to be honest - I am close to giving up on Plone. That's sad to hear. Let us know if there are specific things we can help with. There are lots of things we want to make better about Plone — the good news is that the team is acutely aware of these issues, and everyone is pulling in the same direction to get them fixed. It just takes a bit of time, as everything does in a project with a large installed user base, where you need to care about upgrades and compatibility. -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: Top 15 Questions... Final Draft
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:38:26 +0200, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker gabrie...@sixfeetup.com wrote: Thanks to all of you who participated in this effort, we now have a final draft ready for the Top 15 Questions About Plone at: http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/top-ten-questions-about-plone Thanks for doing this! Comments/suggestions below: #4: A free Plone add-on, RelStorage, also allows enterprises with investments in Oracle, MySQL and PostgreSQL to store the data driving their Plone site in their existing infrastructure for more robust scalability, clustering and failover. This implies that the ZODB doesn't scale, and that you choose Oracle to do so — neither of which are true. ;) I would drop the scalability argument, the main reason why people use it is the existing infrastructure/standards and tool support for failover/backup/clustering. So, something like: A free Plone add-on, RelStorage, also allows enterprises with investments in Oracle, MySQL and PostgreSQL to store the data driving their Plone site in their existing infrastructure to be able to make use of familiar tools, clustering and failover solutions. Not perfect, but you get the idea, and I'm sure you can make it better. :) #5: Maybe mention something like As an example, plone.org is one of the few web sites in the world that has a 9 out of 10 PageRank in Google, the same as major sites like those of IBM and Microsoft. It's a nice soundbite that people remember, and it's true. :) The document looks great! -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Some World Plone Day suggestions
Right now, there are a lot of event objects on plone.org, each announcing WPD in a different country. This won't scale, since only a few events are listed in the events listing. I suggest that you create one mega-event with all the locations and local times — and share it among the organizers in the different countries. That way, there will be one prominent listing with all the key locations and dates, instead of 4 arbitrarily chosen locations on the front page. And, if there is time — can the WPD logo be adjusted to the official blue color of the Plone logo? See http://plone.org/foundation/logo for specs. :) Very excited to see everything coming together! -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: Re: proposal for plone awards
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:31:14 -0800, Chris Calloway c...@unc.edu wrote: The name Ploney Award has been floating around for years and its purposefully awful® sound is part of what makes it so endearing. It's actually spelled the Plonies (as in the Grammies), and yes — we have been discussing this for years. Having the official name be the Plone Awards is probably a good idea, though. Then we can refer to it as the Plonies inside the community. It just lacks a person to own it — should be a simple matter of identifying some categories, set up a timely survey with some good candidates (as well as a freeform option) before the conference, and keep it a secret until it's announced at the conference. Oh, and an awesome Plonies statuette for the winners, of course. ;) Personally, my opinion is that it shouldn't be a simple popularity contest, but rather be used as the basis from where the winners are selected by the judges. This would make it more like the Oscars/Grammies too — and make it possible to put the spotlight on people/project that get less attention that they perhaps should have. :) -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: Re: April 26, 2009 WPD ??
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:19:58 -0800, Calvin Hendryx-Parker cal...@sixfeetup.com wrote: On Dec 22, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Virginia Choy wrote: I think plone week is a great idea as every country has different circumstances. April is good for us in Sydney . -1 on the week idea from me. I think we will lose the impact of the event if it is too spread out. -1 from me too — a single day makes it special, a week does not. And yes, there will always be exceptions — it's beer/holiday time somewhere on the planet at all times. ;) -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: Linux New Media
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:49:56 -0800, Jan Ulrich Hasecke juhase...@googlemail.com wrote: :-( http://www.pr-inside.com/linux-new-media-chooses-the-ez-r967613.htm That's a press release written by eZ Systems, what did you expect? :) -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: Blog post - article
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:29:48 -0800, Graham Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the author's closing paragraph: goodbye Plone. Life is much better here in Drupal land. I have like 40++ modules … one of which is not working :/ Notice all those 'Anonymous Cowards' in the comments? This Drupal site's 'User login' feature is not working … I had to laugh (and have commented politely to the author). That is indeed funny. :D -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: READY for Testing: Text Search Improvement for Asian Languages
You should post this to the i18n list, not the evangelism list. More receptive audience there. ;) On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:14:47 -0800, Takeshi Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for long quiet period. Now we are ready to act for text search improvement. Since all these things are of interest for all languages except English, any contributors are welcome regardless region. CREATE TEST ASSERTION FOR TEXT SEARCH IMPROVEMENT We appreciate if many people writes a test assertion in their own languages and also provide language specific information. For example, if the words are separated by space, if the words are combined with particles, if the words changes according other words, if words combined under some conditions, etc. Also, Unicode specific issues are welcome, of course. For example, some characters are expressed by single code, but also as a composite of two codes. similar to alphabet with accent aigu or umlaut. Such an information nees to be communicated to improve this software. Though all these instructions are written in English, the this testing is not for English language. Detail description for testing is described in following files: http://dev.plone.org/collective/browser/UnicodeSplitterPatch/trunk/UnicodeSplitterPatch/tests/README-en.txt http://dev.plone.org/collective/browser/UnicodeSplitterPatch/trunk/UnicodeSplitterPatch/tests/langs/en-sample-01.txt FILL UP SMALL PART OF LANGUAGE SURVEY Apart from this direct development work, I would like to have a quick survey of world languages Plone is now supporting. I appreciate if you fill out some part of this form, the part you are familiar with. http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pgA5RsCXykF6TE4QJ5eBCJghl=en I found that Plone now support 60 languages from the view point of po- file, but also want to know population coverage. I think the native language user population coverage could be one key perfomance indicator(KPI) of Plone. PO FILE CHARTING TOOL Another numbers I want to know is filled-out ratio per language. There was a chart included in translation files folder at the age of Plone 1. Does anyone know similar tools for Plone 3? Thank you very much. retsu -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism