Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-12 Thread Jason
On Mar 12, 12:49 am, Danny Mayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 07-mars-07, à 18:50, Danny Mayes a écrit : If you assume an ensemble theory, whether it be an infinite MWI or Bruno's UD in the plenitude, is it POSSIBLE to avoid God? For the purposes of this question I'll define God as an

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 11-mars-07, à 17:33, John M a écrit : Still: human thinking. You should subscribe to some alien list, if you are annoyed by us being human. You can answer human thinking to any (human) post. So this does not convey any information, unless you explain what in our human nature

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument - and Thanks and a dumb question.

2007-03-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 11-mars-07, à 17:56, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : Reductionism means breaking something up into simpler parts to explain it. What's wrong with that? Because, assuming comp, neither matter nor mind (including perception) can be break up into simpler parts to be explained. That is what

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument - and Thanks and a dumb question.

2007-03-12 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
OK, but it seems that we are using reductionism differently. You could say that a hydrogen atom cannot be reduced to an electron + proton because it exhibits behaviour not exhibited in any of its components; or you could say that it can be reduced to an electron + proton because these two

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-12 Thread John Mikes
Let me reverse the sequence of your post for my ease: The last part: If we accept Bruno's we are god I have never said that. The most I have said in that direction, is that, assuming comp, the first person inherits God' unanmeability. So the first person has some god attribute. you cannot infer

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-12 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 11:58:58AM -0400, John Mikes wrote: In the sci-fi I wrote in 1988-89 I depicted the 'story' of human evolving as done by an experiment of aliens from another universe, to which I assigned energy with 3 (three) poles. One +, one -, and a THIRD one. (Maybe your math

Danny's God (was: Meaning of Life)

2007-03-12 Thread John Mikes
Sorry, Danny, for my convoluted style. Also, for having missed you 'original' explanation of (your) God. I try to concentrate on SOME of the texts, it is getting too much indeed, to memorize week long postings of many.contributors.. You wrote:

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-12 Thread John M
Thanks, Russell, 4 Poles may play bridge. John - Original Message - From: Russell Standish To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:19 AM Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 11:58:58AM -0400, John Mikes wrote: In the

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-12 Thread Brent Meeker
Tom Caylor wrote: On Mar 6, 5:19 pm, Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Caylor wrote: A source that has given us the crusades and 9/11 as well as the sister's of mercy. No a very sufficient source if nobody can agree on what it provides. I don't like simply saying That isn't so, but

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-12 Thread Brent Meeker
Mohsen Ravanbakhsh wrote: /All actual measurements yield rational values. Using real numbers in the equations of physics is probably merely a convenience (since calculus is easier than finite differences). There is no evidence that defining an instantaneous state requires uncountable

Re: JOINING post

2007-03-12 Thread 明迪
Dear John, I feel I understand your view and distinction of origination point and origination. Origination is entailment of origination point. Origination point is part of our world (the item to be originated). Is that correct? Now, my opinion is that there is no origination of the origination