Re: Believing ...

2007-03-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 20-mars-07, à 13:02, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : On 3/20/07, Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 01-mars-07, à 00:35, Brent Meeker a écrit : Brent Meeker quoted: Atheism is a belief system the way Off is a TV channel.    --- George Carlin Carlin makes the typical

Re: Believing ...

2007-03-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 20-mars-07, à 17:07, Brent Meeker a écrit : Bruno Marchal wrote: Le 01-mars-07, à 00:35, Brent Meeker a écrit : Brent Meeker quoted: Atheism is a belief system the way Off is a TV channel. --- George Carlin Carlin makes the typical confusion between atheism and agnosticism.

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 20-mars-07, à 18:05, Brent Meeker a écrit : What are those relations? Is it a matter of the provenance of the numbers, e.g. being computed by some subprocess of the UD? Or is an inherent relation like being relatively prime? It is an inherent relation like being prime, or being the

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-21 Thread John M
Stathis and Brent: ineresting and hard-to-object sentiments. Would it not make sense to write instead of we are (thing-wise) - the term less static, rather process-wise: We do (in whatever action)? John M - Original Message - From: Brent Meeker To:

Re: Believing ...

2007-03-21 Thread John M
BRUNO: I have never met an atheist who does not believe in primitive matter. Well, today even theist believe in primitive matter, with few exception. Now, if an atheist does not believe in primitive matter, he certainly believe in something, all right. And if he does fundamental research, he

Re: String theory and Cellular Automata

2007-03-21 Thread Mohsen Ravanbakhsh
Thanks. On 3/20/07, Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could be interested by a paper introducing String theory as a syntactical logical structure by the other Schmidhuber (Juergen's brother Christof): Here: http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0011065 What are strings made of? The

Re: Believing ...

2007-03-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 21-mars-07, à 15:48, John M a écrit : BRUNO:   I have never met an atheist who does not believe in primitive matter. Well, today even theist believe in primitive matter, with few exception. Now, if an atheist does not believe in primitive matter, he certainly believe in something,

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-21 Thread Brent Meeker
Bruno Marchal wrote: Le 20-mars-07, à 18:05, Brent Meeker a écrit : What are those relations? Is it a matter of the provenance of the numbers, e.g. being computed by some subprocess of the UD? Or is an inherent relation like being relatively prime? It is an inherent relation like

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-21 Thread Brent Meeker
John M wrote: Stathis and Brent: ineresting and hard-to-object sentiments. Would it not make sense to write instead of we are (thing-wise) - the term less static, rather process-wise: We do (in whatever action)? John M That's part of what I'm struggling with. ISTM that OMs, being

Re: Janus [was Evidence for the simulation argument ]

2007-03-21 Thread Mark Peaty
John, with your rich linguistic experience you surely recognise that English [plain or otherwise] is very much a hybrid language - and surely many who are forced to learn it as a second or third language would call it 'b*stard' even. And the way that we native speakers of English use words from

Re: Believing ...

2007-03-21 Thread Brent Meeker
Bruno Marchal wrote: Le 20-mars-07, à 13:02, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : On 3/20/07, *Bruno Marchal* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 01-mars-07, à 00:35, Brent Meeker a écrit : Brent Meeker quoted: Atheism is a belief system the way Off is a TV

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-21 Thread Quentin Anciaux
On Wednesday 21 March 2007 17:46:32 Brent Meeker wrote: John M wrote: Stathis and Brent: ineresting and hard-to-object sentiments. Would it not make sense to write instead of we are (thing-wise) - the term less static, rather process-wise: We do (in whatever action)? John M

Re: Believing ...

2007-03-21 Thread John Mikes
Thanks, Bruno, The 'truth' was missing from my post. there was a technical mistake: from my sentence as mailed: Being a he you pointed to (rejcted though as 'atheist') I really do not ' believe. What I find logically not so repugnant - one word disappeared in the mailing process. Originally

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-21 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 3/22/07, Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John M wrote: Stathis and Brent: ineresting and hard-to-object sentiments. Would it not make sense to write instead of we are (thing-wise) - the term less static, rather process-wise: We do (in whatever action)? John M

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-21 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 3/22/07, *Brent Meeker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John M wrote: Stathis and Brent: ineresting and hard-to-object sentiments. Would it not make sense to write instead of we are (thing-wise) -

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-21 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 3/22/07, Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 3/22/07, *Brent Meeker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John M wrote: Stathis and Brent: ineresting and hard-to-object sentiments. Would it not

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-21 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 3/22/07, *Brent Meeker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 3/22/07, *Brent Meeker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL