Hi Bruno,
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 31 Jan 2013, at 15:15, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Telmo Menezes
Perhaps you're right, but to my limited knowledge,
a quantum has infinite paths available between
points A and B without invoking another
The other thing is, there may well be other fora and lists to discuss posts
someone wishes to define as metadiscussion but that does not mean that there
exists the same quality of thinkers on those other lists and fora as there do
on this particular one with whom you might have insightful
akin to FRACKING - to hell with bloody auto spell correct
K
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The other thing is, there may well be other fora and lists to discuss posts
someone wishes to define as metadiscussion but that does not mean that
there exists
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:
On 1/31/2013 4:46 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
What's an entity?
Any system whose canonical description can be associated with some
kind of fixed point theorem.
Ok, do you figure that a human being can be
On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:12:17 AM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 1/31/2013 6:12 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:38:28 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 1/31/2013 4:46 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
What's an entity?
Any system whose
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:46 AM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
In my metaphysical string cosmology god is created by the
compactification of space dimensions.
Then God was created just like we were and it's rather
On Friday, February 1, 2013 8:15:57 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote:
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:46 AM, John Clark johnk...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 Richard Ruquist yan...@gmail.com javascript:
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In my metaphysical string cosmology god is created by the
On 31 Jan 2013, at 19:42, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
i don't believe in the GOD in which you don't believe in.
Then what are we arguing about? Are we arguing about science or
mathematics or philosophy, or are we just arguing about first
On 30 Jan 2013, at 11:39, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
The religion I refer to is grounded in subjectivity,
that is to say, trust (1p), not 3p. Experience,
not deswcriptions. Science is based not on experience,
but on descriptions, 3p.
Not really. We have to do experiences, but we
It seems to me that is what most of us do on this list,
is to worship or at least try to validate and dignify arithmetics
as the source of physical laws as well as energy, matter and consciousness.
In my opinion, arithmetics comes from the dimensional compactification
that results in a cubic
On 30 Jan 2013, at 11:55, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
Theology is an objective, derivative. human pursuit based on reason,
and reason, acccording to my Lutheran beliefs,
being objective (3p), cannot be free of error.
OK.
Only the consciousness root of our subjectivity is
On 30 Jan 2013, at 11:58, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
That is, if comp actually works.
Is there any experimental proof available ?
Comp is the hypothesis by default, as it is far simpler than non-comp,
and there are no evidence at all for non-comp, just feeling by some
people
Hi Bruno Marchal
I would think that each universe provides its own distinctive
context to any calculation, including comp. So I
wonder why you seem to endorse (or at least don't deny) a multiverse.
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On Friday, February 1, 2013 10:35:22 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote:
It seems to me that is what most of us do on this list,
is to worship or at least try to validate and dignify arithmetics
as the source of physical laws as well as energy, matter and
consciousness.
In my opinion,
On 30 Jan 2013, at 17:20, Roger Clough wrote:
How can we reestablish moral values in our homes, our schools, and
in the media ?
How about starting with the Golden Rule (Do unto others as you
would have them do unto you)?
To tell you the truth, that covers about everything.
We can't
Hi Russell Standish
If one is a Platonist one cannot avoid using Berkeley's rescue package.
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Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
Nothing human is off-topic to me.
Which suggests that materialism and brain science are off-topic.
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Hi Stephen P. King
Yes, morals are of anthropological or sociological origin
and so are created by usage, like the meanings of words.
They are also spread by usage (customs, laws, etc.)
You may stop there, but personally, being a Platonist and student of
Leibniz, I go a little farther and
On 31 Jan 2013, at 09:38, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
The block universe is the physical universe. So we are not part of it,
for it does not allow subjectivity, which is nonphysical. Or
mathematics or comp, which are also nonphysical.
But you have to explain the relation between
Hi Stephen P. King
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On 1/31/2013 4:46 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
What's an entity?
Any system whose
An entity seems to be what Leibniz called a substance or monad.
Definition of ENTITY
1
a : being, existence; especially : independent, separate, or self-contained
existence
b : the existence of a thing as contrasted with its attributes
2
: something that has separate and distinct existence and
On 01 Feb 2013, at 09:46, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Hi Bruno,
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 31 Jan 2013, at 15:15, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Telmo Menezes
Perhaps you're right, but to my limited knowledge,
a quantum has infinite paths available
On 01 Feb 2013, at 09:57, Kim Jones wrote:
akin to FRACKING - to hell with bloody auto spell correct
K
On 01/02/2013, at 7:48 PM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
The other thing is, there may well be other fora and lists to
discuss posts someone wishes to define as
Hi Richard Ruquist
It's not just semantics if you know the difference between the
nonphysical (God) and the physical (stuff in spacetime).
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Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
Faith (trust) is a gift from God, you can't do anything about it except
to accept or reject the gift. As a child, you didn't have to decide whether
to trust your mother, you just did. And for no reason.
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Hi socra...@bezeqint.net
Feynman was wrong. Life isn't physics,
it's intelligence or consciousness, free will.
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Hi Bruno Marchal
There are no reasons to believe in God
any more than there were reasons,
as an infant, to trust your mother.
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Hi Bruno Marchal
Good. And I should have said, rather than I cannot prove that,
instead, i don't need to prove that any more
than that, as an infant, in fact I trusted my mother.
The error is never in the perception (Firstness) , for that is what you
actually perceive
or feel, the error is
Hi Bruno Marchal
We are our memory, which is timeless and so part of Platonia,
although it is continually added to, so changes in that respect.
Still, it is our identity, our soul. Being in Platonia, even if forgotten,
it survives death, which is somewhat agreeable with
the Christian concept of
Hi Bruno Marchal
Shouldn't it be multiwavicles rather than a multiverse ? Occam's
razor suggests that.
Why ? Mathematics is nonphysical, so I would think that superposition of
states is also nonphysical, thus needing no other physical universe
to be referred to than the one it was originally
Hi Bruno,
I can't see that superposition of states is any more magical
in one universe than, say, multiple roots to an equation, or imaginary
numbers. What matters is whether they are true states or not.
And truth is not magical.
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On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:46 AM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
In my metaphysical string cosmology
On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:26:43 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi socr...@bezeqint.net javascript:
Feynman was wrong. Life isn't physics,
it's intelligence or consciousness, free will.
If we understand that physics is actually experience, then life,
intelligence, consciousness, free
On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:29:10 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
There are no reasons to believe in God
any more than there were reasons,
as an infant, to trust your mother.
Infants only trust their mother because they have no expectation of
distrust. That's why
On 2/1/2013 5:20 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Stephen P. King
stephe...@charter.net mailto:stephe...@charter.net wrote:
On 1/31/2013 4:46 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
What's an entity?
Any system whose canonical description can be associated
On 2/1/2013 8:07 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:12:17 AM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 1/31/2013 6:12 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:38:28 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King
wrote:
On 1/31/2013 4:46 PM, Telmo Menezes
On Friday, February 1, 2013 2:29:21 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
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I have mentioned this before, but it keeps haunting me.
If geometry did not exist.
Could you invent it with mathematics alone?
And if you could do that...
Why would you?
For instance: A triangle can be defined mathematically in different ways,
but without the inherently geometric
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:32:27AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Russell Standish
If one is a Platonist one cannot avoid using Berkeley's rescue package.
In section 9.3 of my book, I mention at least three different
alternatives, of which Berkeley's was one. Please tell me what is so
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:30:39AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
Nothing human is off-topic to me.
Which suggests that materialism and brain science are off-topic.
By contrast, discussion of materialism and neuroscience is definitely
on-topic, and has often been
On 2/1/2013 3:52 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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On Feb 1, 7:51 pm, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:26:43 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi socr...@bezeqint.net javascript:
Feynman was wrong. Life isn't physics,
it's intelligence or consciousness, free will.
If we understand that physics is
On 2/1/2013 12:46 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Hi Bruno,
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 31 Jan 2013, at 15:15, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Telmo Menezes
Perhaps you're right, but to my limited knowledge,
a
Hi Richard Ruquist
Perhaps you can just define or describe compactification in general terms.
Is it compactification of dimensions ?
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