Re: Video of VCR

2014-04-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Apr 2014, at 21:34, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 1:00:54 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 01 Apr 2014, at 21:55, Craig Weinberg wrote: I believe you, but all of the laws and creativity can still only occur in the context of a sense making experience. Did I

Re: Climate models

2014-04-03 Thread LizR
On 3 April 2014 17:01, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *LizR *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2014 5:13 PM *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Climate models

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-03 Thread meekerdb
On 4/2/2014 6:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The original proof of Gleason is not easy, but a more elementary proof (which remains not that simple) has been found by Cooke, Keane and Moran, and can be found in the (very good) book by Richard Hugues (you can find a PDF on the net). Only if you

Re: Climate models

2014-04-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Apr 2014, at 23:03, LizR wrote: On 3 April 2014 05:56, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: -Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of smi...@zonnet.nl It is the belief that the scentists can be

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-03 Thread LizR
On 3 April 2014 16:56, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 3, 2014 3:07:26 AM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: On 3 April 2014 14:39, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 3, 2014 1:24:28 AM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: gbhibbsa, I'm getting a bit confused here. All I said is that wavefunction

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Apr 2014, at 23:15, LizR wrote: As instructed I will have a look at Brent's proofs and see if I follow them, and agree... On 2 April 2014 15:45, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/1/2014 7:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: BTW, are you OK in the math thread? Are you OK, like Liz

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Apr 2014, at 23:20, LizR wrote: On 3 April 2014 04:37, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Suppose R is not transitive, so for all beta (alpha R beta) and there are some gamma such that [(beta R gamma) and ~(alpha R gamma)]. I cannot parse that sentence, I guess some word are

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Apr 2014, at 01:16, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 3:40:18 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 31 Mar 2014, at 20:14, meekerdb wrote: On 3/31/2014 10:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 31 Mar 2014, at 19:04, meekerdb wrote: On 3/31/2014 12:30 AM, Bruno Marchal

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Apr 2014, at 05:12, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:01:04 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Mar 2014, at 05:48, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, March 24, 2014 4:48:13 AM UTC, chris peck wrote: The only person in any doubt was you wasn't it Liz? I found

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Apr 2014, at 08:49, meekerdb wrote: On 4/2/2014 6:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The original proof of Gleason is not easy, but a more elementary proof (which remains not that simple) has been found by Cooke, Keane and Moran, and can be found in the (very good) book by Richard Hugues

Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback

2014-04-03 Thread Gabriel Bodeen
FWIW, on a flight this weekend I read a bit of Amoeba's Secret on my kindle while the stranger in the seat next to me was reading Tegmark's book. If plane rides didn't make me fall unconscious almost immediately, that might have been grounds for an interesting live discussion. :) On Thursday,

Re: Climate models

2014-04-03 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
They're trying to find that jet that got lost on the Indian Ocean somewhere. But most of the objects the satellites zoom in on are just... trash. Ocean garbage is creating so many false positives, that it impedes finding a missing plane. You don't even have to be green to understand that it's not

RE: Climate models

2014-04-03 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: No one is ever going to recover the dispersed Thorium in your garden's dirt They could but no one will bother doing anything like

RE: Climate models

2014-04-03 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 11:56 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Climate models On 02 Apr 2014, at 23:03, LizR wrote: On 3 April 2014 05:56, Chris

Re: The Shale unconventional oil play is just a bubble (and one that is about to burst) -- reserves have been wildly overstated.

2014-04-03 Thread Chris de Morsella
This article from Bloomberg delves into some detail on how the unconventional oil sector is actually based on unreliable numbers -- with reserve estimates and production curves that have proven to have been wildly overstated -- to the point of criminal conspiracy to defraud investors (I would

Re: Climate models

2014-04-03 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.comwrote: Not a single LFTR unit is operating That's true today but wasn't always the case, the last operating thorium reactor on this planet, the MSRE at Oak Ridge was shut down in 1969. Of course after 40 years of doing

Re: Climate models

2014-04-03 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 7:32 PM Subject: Re: Climate models On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: Not a single LFTR unit is

Re: Climate models

2014-04-03 Thread LizR
On 4 April 2014 04:46, Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.comwrote: You don't even have to be green to understand that it's not productive or rational to keep having mountains of redundant material and poison keep accumulating and multiplying around us. The discussion in the total

Re: The Shale unconventional oil play is just a bubble (and one that is about to burst) -- reserves have been wildly overstated.

2014-04-03 Thread LizR
On 4 April 2014 08:16, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: This article from Bloomberg delves into some detail on how the unconventional oil sector is actually based on unreliable numbers -- with reserve estimates and production curves that have proven to have been wildly

If you can't disprove the science, you can always try suing

2014-04-03 Thread LizR
Climate Deniers Intimidate Journal into Retracting Paper that Finds They Believe Conspiracy Theories Ironically, it looks like they are conspiring to silence any mention of this fact!

Re: If you can't disprove the science, you can always try suing

2014-04-03 Thread meekerdb
Fortunately, the University of Western Australia was not so timid; so you can read the original paper here: http://www.psychology.uwa.edu.au/research/cognitive/?a=2523540 Brent On 4/3/2014 4:29 PM, Climate Deniers Intimidate Journal into Retracting Paper that Finds They Believe Conspiracy

Re: My model re Comp and Life re the Everything

2014-04-03 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Bruno, John, Liz, and everyone: Bruno: Your comments helped me to refine my thoughts about my model and the model itself. See below. Thank you. I believe my model as clarified below has convinced me that Comp to the degree I may understand it and to the degree it is

Daphne du Maurier was right!

2014-04-03 Thread LizR
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/06/060606-crows_2.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Daphne du Maurier was right!

2014-04-03 Thread Samiya Illias
Qur'an Chapter 5, Verse 31: Then Allah sent a raven scratching up the ground, to show him how to hide his brother's naked corpse. He said: Woe unto me! Am I not able to be as this raven and so hide my brother's naked corpse? And he became repentant. (Translator: Pickthal)

Re: Daphne du Maurier was right!

2014-04-03 Thread LizR
I'm not sure what that quote is supposed to mean, but the article was about birds being intelligent in their own right, not acting intelligently because they're under the control of God. On 4 April 2014 16:55, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: Qur'an Chapter 5, Verse 31: Then Allah

Re: Daphne du Maurier was right!

2014-04-03 Thread Samiya Illias
Whether we consider intelligent beings as ' being intelligent in their own right' or intelligence as being God-gifted is a matter of faith and perspective. The subject of your email is Daphne du Maurier was right! Perhaps the scriptures were also right? Perhaps its time to also consider the

Re: Daphne du Maurier was right!

2014-04-03 Thread meekerdb
On 4/3/2014 9:16 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: Whether we consider intelligent beings as ' being intelligent in their own right' or intelligence as being God-gifted is a matter of faith and perspective. The subject of your email is Daphne du Maurier was right!Perhaps the scriptures were also right?

Re: Daphne du Maurier was right!

2014-04-03 Thread Samiya Illias
I suggest we study and evaluate it for its literal merit, rather than 'what it might mean' thus removing all constructs and myths surrounding it. Dr. Maurice Bucaille did something similar when he examined the scriptures in the light of scientific knowledge. Online translation:

Re: Daphne du Maurier was right!

2014-04-03 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 4 April 2014 15:59, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest we study and evaluate it for its literal merit, rather than 'what it might mean' thus removing all constructs and myths surrounding it. Dr. Maurice Bucaille did something similar when he examined the scriptures in

Re: Daphne du Maurier was right!

2014-04-03 Thread meekerdb
On 4/3/2014 9:59 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: I suggest we study and evaluate it for its literal merit, You mean whether or not it is true when taken literally? Literally it would mean that there was crow and someone name God gave it intelligence. But that crow would be dead by now, so we

Re: Daphne du Maurier was right!

2014-04-03 Thread Samiya Illias
What is more important? Faith or Honest Faith? How can we honestly believe in God when we think God doesn't know what He created? I think its a disservice to God, to religion and to ourselves when we choose to not to question Faith, and not to examine it. Its not 'to test God', rather its to test

Re: Daphne du Maurier was right!

2014-04-03 Thread Samiya Illias
To see what I mean, please read the book by Dr Maurice Bucaille https://ia700504.us.archive.org/18/items/TheBibletheQuranScienceByDr.mauriceBucaille/TheBibletheQuranScienceByDr.mauriceBucaille.pdf Samiya On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:30 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/3/2014 9:59