RE: Germany sets record for peak energy use - 50 percent comes from solar (Update)

2014-06-27 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:28 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Germany sets record for peak energy use - 50 percent comes from solar (Update) On Fri, Jun 27, 2

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-06-27 Thread LizR
On 28 June 2014 07:25, John Clark wrote: > On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:06 PM, LizR wrote: > > > Surely Atheist means 100% sure, so 99.9% is still agnostic >> > > The existence or nonexistence of God is just one fact about the world, > there are lots more, so I guess we need to invent h

Some carefully considered comments on ISIS and Fox News by Russell Brand

2014-06-27 Thread LizR
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Re: Pluto bounces back!

2014-06-27 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 1:45 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 6/27/2014 4:24 AM, LizR wrote: > > On 27 June 2014 23:07, Richard Ruquist wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Samiya Illias >> wrote: >> >>> Okay, let’s leave aside whether this is a book about God by humans, or >>> a book from

Re: Germany sets record for peak energy use - 50 percent comes from solar (Update)

2014-06-27 Thread LizR
PPS whatever happened to Barak Obama's solar farms and superconducting DC grid? :-) On 28 June 2014 10:47, LizR wrote: > On 28 June 2014 07:37, meekerdb wrote: > >> >> I want to know how you're going to economically convert DC to AC. >> >> >> I'm gonna trasmit DC because that's more efficient

Re: Germany sets record for peak energy use - 50 percent comes from solar (Update)

2014-06-27 Thread LizR
On 28 June 2014 07:37, meekerdb wrote: > > I want to know how you're going to economically convert DC to AC. > > > I'm gonna trasmit DC because that's more efficient anyway. > > Yeah, AC's dangerous. Remember that poor elephant! (I suppose she's the original "elephant in the room" :-) PS In ca

Re: Germany sets record for peak energy use - 50 percent comes from solar (Update)

2014-06-27 Thread LizR
On 28 June 2014 03:27, John Clark wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:06 AM, LizR wrote: > > >> Engineers solved the nuclear waste problem decades ago, but lawyers >>> have not solved it and in our society lawyers are far more important than >>> engineers so nothing gets done. >>> >> >> > How wa

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-06-27 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > I care about the notion behind. Call it the "ONE" > Let's call it the "BULLSHIT". > read Plotinus, > Given that your average 6th grader knows far more about the universe than he ever did why in hell should I read Plotinus?? > I made cle

Re: Germany sets record for peak energy use - 50 percent comes from solar (Update)

2014-06-27 Thread meekerdb
On 6/27/2014 9:07 AM, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:45 PM, meekerdb > wrote: > Within each big square is a smaller 145 km by 145 km square showing the area required in the desert – one New Jersey – to supply 30 million people with 250 kWh

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-06-27 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:06 PM, LizR wrote: > Surely Atheist means 100% sure, so 99.9% is still agnostic > The existence or nonexistence of God is just one fact about the world, there are lots more, so I guess we need to invent hairsplitting distinctions for them all. We need to inv

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-06-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 26 Jun 2014, at 22:19, John Mikes wrote: PGC, Brent, et all (Liz? with Dawkins quoted) - the word is "GOD-LIKE" what I object to. Like WHAT god of the past 20,000 years? the one imagined as the Big Baer, or the 'author' behind the Abrahamic Scripture, or Bruno's Univ. Machine? Blasphe

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-06-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 26 Jun 2014, at 20:51, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> Concerning the existence of a china teapot in orbit around the planet Uranus, are you a teapot atheist or agnostic? > Agnostic. Is the possibility of such a orbiting teapot large enoug

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-06-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 25 Jun 2014, at 19:11, meekerdb wrote: On 6/25/2014 7:36 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Some claim that my problem in Brussels was that in the introduction to "Conscience & Mécanisme" I make clear what I mean by agnostic (~[] g) and atheists ([]~g). Natural language confuse easily ~[] and [

Re: Pluto bounces back!

2014-06-27 Thread meekerdb
On 6/27/2014 4:24 AM, LizR wrote: On 27 June 2014 23:07, Richard Ruquist mailto:yann...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Samiya Illias mailto:samiyaill...@gmail.com>> wrote: Okay, let’s leave aside whether this is a book about God by humans, or a book fro

Re: American Intelligence

2014-06-27 Thread meekerdb
On 6/27/2014 4:20 AM, LizR wrote: On 27 June 2014 15:57, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: It's called realpolitik. Do you want the President to choose who to support based on their morality and disregard the national interest? And how would you measure their morality

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-06-27 Thread meekerdb
On 6/27/2014 3:29 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:34 AM, meekerdb > wrote: On 6/26/2014 4:19 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: But []~g in contrast... that's not even rational If you read it as "In every possible world

Re: TRONNIES - SPACE

2014-06-27 Thread David Nyman
On 27 June 2014 05:02, LizR wrote: > Well my original phrase was "convenient fiction" and it was only intended to > be considered relevant in a context of what is and isn't fundamental / > primitive. Obviously the convenient fictions ARE very convenient, for > example I prefer to be thought of a

Re: Germany sets record for peak energy use - 50 percent comes from solar (Update)

2014-06-27 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:45 PM, meekerdb wrote: > Within each big square is a smaller 145 km by 145 km square showing the > area required in the desert – one New Jersey – to supply 30 million people > with 250 kWh per day per person Same old problems. Never mind how you can make all those sola

Re: Germany sets record for peak energy use - 50 percent comes from solar (Update)

2014-06-27 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:06 AM, LizR wrote: >> Engineers solved the nuclear waste problem decades ago, but lawyers have >> not solved it and in our society lawyers are far more important than >> engineers so nothing gets done. >> > > > How was this solved? > The most dangerous radioactive subst

Re: TRONNIES - SPACE

2014-06-27 Thread David Nyman
On 26 June 2014 23:12, meekerdb wrote: > Ok, thanks. I think I grasp your idea. But ISTM you are taking "fiction" > and "artefact" to mean "untrue" or "non-existent". I don't see that is > justified. Just because a water molecule is made of three atoms doesn't > make it a "fiction". If our pe

Re: Pluto bounces back!

2014-06-27 Thread David Nyman
On 27 June 2014 12:24, LizR wrote: > "I can call forth spirits from the vasty deep!" > > "Why, so can I, and so can any man; but do they come when you do call them?" > > (Shakespeare, I'm not sure which play offhand, or who said it ... or if I > quoted it accurately ... but I'm sure you get the p

Re: American Intelligence

2014-06-27 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 7:20 AM, LizR wrote: > On 27 June 2014 15:57, meekerdb wrote: > >> It's called realpolitik. Do you want the President to choose who to >> support based on their morality and disregard the national interest? >> > http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/06/25/new-recession-n

Re: we are the narrators of our minds

2014-06-27 Thread LizR
On 27 June 2014 07:03, meekerdb wrote: > On 6/26/2014 4:17 AM, LizR wrote: > >> Yes, according to this view we are just "along for the ride". >> > > Isn't that going to be true of any model that explains us in terms of > something simpler we can understand, whether it's strings or arithmetic? Y

Re: we are the narrators of our minds

2014-06-27 Thread LizR
On 27 June 2014 04:28, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: > everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *LizR > > > > >>Yes, according to this view we are just "along for the ride". > > > >

Re: Pluto bounces back!

2014-06-27 Thread LizR
On 27 June 2014 23:07, Richard Ruquist wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Samiya Illias > wrote: > >> Okay, let’s leave aside whether this is a book about God by humans, or a >> book from God about humans. >> >> Let’s discuss the factual accuracy part first. You ask “how we can study >> s

Re: American Intelligence

2014-06-27 Thread LizR
On 27 June 2014 15:57, meekerdb wrote: > It's called realpolitik. Do you want the President to choose who to > support based on their morality and disregard the national interest? And > how would you measure their morality? Maybe the real plan is to keep any > one murderous faction from winni

Re: American Intelligence

2014-06-27 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:58 AM, LizR wrote: > On 27 June 2014 02:17, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> The expression "war on terror" is already suspicious in that regard. >> Terrorists can only applaud. What an advertizing on their cause and methods. >> >> It always struck me that the West's to rea

Re: Pluto bounces back!

2014-06-27 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy < multiplecit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Samiya Illias > wrote: > >> Okay, let’s leave aside whether this is a book about God by humans, or a >> book from God about humans. >> > > Why? It makes a claim th

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-06-27 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:34 AM, meekerdb wrote: > On 6/26/2014 4:19 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: > > But []~g in contrast... that's not even rational > > > If you read it as "In every possible world g is false and g=Some God", > it's irrational (unless g entails a contradiction). But tha

Re: Germany sets record for peak energy use - 50 percent comes from solar (Update)

2014-06-27 Thread LizR
On 27 June 2014 06:21, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > >Why is it that the same people who believe that solar energy will get >>> a lot better in the future also believe that the nuclear reacto

Re: Germany sets record for peak energy use - 50 percent comes from solar (Update)

2014-06-27 Thread LizR
On 27 June 2014 05:27, John Clark wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:06 PM, LizR wrote: > > >> Even if the cost of solar cells fell to zero it wouldn't be enough to >>> replace fossil fuels even at today's levels much less provide enough energy >>> to enable developing countries (the vast major

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

2014-06-27 Thread Russell Standish
Yes, indeed. Let me know next time one phones in, and I'll listen in. Should be interesting. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 09:01:06PM -0400, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > > Indeed, Professor, like Hercules, but gods are a higher paygrade, and have > tenure. Still, it would be interesting to