Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-08-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 29 Aug 2015, at 18:59, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 3:19 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: ​ ​You don't even quote the entire sentence. ​You mean the one where you said ​ ​I will no more comment​ ?​ Yes. ​ ​You don't even quote and answer any of the

Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

2015-08-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Aug 2015, at 03:08, Russell Standish wrote: Well as people probably know, I don't believe C. elegans can be conscious in any sense of the word. Hell - I have strong doubts about ants, and they're massively more complex creatures. I think personally that C. Elegans, and Planaria (!),

Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

2015-08-30 Thread meekerdb
On 8/30/2015 3:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 Aug 2015, at 03:08, Russell Standish wrote: Well as people probably know, I don't believe C. elegans can be conscious in any sense of the word. Hell - I have strong doubts about ants, and they're massively more complex creatures. I think

Re: If the universe is computational, what is the computing platform? What are the options?

2015-08-30 Thread Alberto G. Corona
I don`t know the computation, but for sure that will you have the option of running it on Linux or Windows 2015-08-26 9:21 GMT+02:00 Peter Sas peterjacco...@gmail.com: Hi guys and girls, I'm sure this question has already come up many times before, but it's an important one, so I guess it

Re: A scary theory about IS

2015-08-30 Thread meekerdb
On 8/30/2015 10:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: - the governments know that prohibition is the main fuel of criminality and terrorism. So Muslims flew planes into buildings government (which one?) prohibited something (what?). Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: If the universe is computational, what is the computing platform? What are the options?

2015-08-30 Thread meekerdb
On 8/30/2015 10:35 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: ​ ​ The dogma did not come from Plato, nor even Aristotle, ​All the ancient greeks in your own words ​ believe in what they understand, not

Re: If the universe is computational, what is the computing platform? What are the options?

2015-08-30 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: ​ ​ The dogma did not come from Plato, nor even Aristotle, ​All the ancient greeks in your own words ​ believe in what they understand, not necessarily in what they observe ​ and that was the problem.​ Aristotle ​

Re: A scary theory about IS

2015-08-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Aug 2015, at 19:17, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: What I am guessing is the fear of those nasty Yanks that is driving all this. One doesn't need to be politically radical to be paranoid. In the US ATT has been sending its comm records directly to NSA, it was revealed a few

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-08-30 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 6:09 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: ​ ​ ​I saw several question marks in the last post but I saw no questions. Ask me any question and I'll give you an answer or say I don't know, but I can't respond to gibberish.​ ​ ​ I was alluding on how you predict

Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

2015-08-30 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 07:46:33PM -0400, Jason Resch wrote: There's roughly a 100x increase in number of neurons, scaling from the nematode to the fruit fly, to the mouse, cat, and then human. If efficiency and power of computers for a given cost continue to double, then what it costs now

Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

2015-08-30 Thread Jason Resch
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: Well as people probably know, I don't believe C. elegans can be conscious in any sense of the word. Hell - I have strong doubts about ants, and they're massively more complex creatures. But it probably won't be

Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

2015-08-30 Thread Jason Resch
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 30 Aug 2015, at 03:08, Russell Standish wrote: Well as people probably know, I don't believe C. elegans can be conscious in any sense of the word. Hell - I have strong doubts about ants, and they're massively more

Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

2015-08-30 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:34:18PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 Aug 2015, at 03:08, Russell Standish wrote: Well as people probably know, I don't believe C. elegans can be conscious in any sense of the word. Hell - I have strong doubts about ants, and they're massively more complex

Re: Uploaded Worm Mind

2015-08-30 Thread meekerdb
On 8/30/2015 5:42 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 07:46:33PM -0400, Jason Resch wrote: There's roughly a 100x increase in number of neurons, scaling from the nematode to the fruit fly, to the mouse, cat, and then human. If efficiency and power of computers for a given cost