Re: What is computing?

So then computing is not empty. Consciousness itself is *intrinsic* (vs. *extrinsic*) computing. @philipthrift On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 5:07:02 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > I work as a software developer, if, then, get, set. > > This is a game that I made in university just4fun: >

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 6:36:00 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:09:41 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 7:13:55 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift

Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity

iI like the Pastafatians. However I am not against religion, just the mentality of the fanatic. Fanaticism usually means If you don't obey us, we will kill youThis mentality is not just hugely, seen, among the Islamists.But also, their political chums, the Progressives (socialists & communists

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:09:41 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 7:13:55 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 6:38:41 AM UTC-5, Lawrence

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 5:09 AM Philip Thrift wrote: > On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 7:13:55 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> So *Fay Dowker *and *Rafael Sorkin * >>> >>>

Re: What is computing?

And also a song that I made, why not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8_n-Ljl8MU -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: What is computing?

I work as a software developer, if, then, get, set. This is a game that I made in university just4fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt8LFl7t2oE On Wednesday, 12 June 2019 00:34:00 UTC+3, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 4:18:15 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: >> >>

Re: What is computing?

Prove it's fake news put up or shut up. On 6/11/2019 4:18 PM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: Computing = empty concept. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: What is computing?

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 4:18:15 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > Computing = empty concept. > Did you ever write (and run) programs? What could be more fun? (aside from sex) @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List"

Re: What is computing?

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Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

Fake news. On Tuesday, 11 June 2019 20:34:15 UTC+3, howardmarks wrote: > > they couldn't get even one hit. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:31:52 PM UTC-5, spudb...@aol.com wrote: > > "One man's theology is another man's belly laugh." -Lazarus Long aka > Robert Heinlein > > There is a religion called *Comedism*: via Steve Gimbel

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:09:41 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 7:13:55 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 6:38:41 AM UTC-5, Lawrence

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 7:13:55 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 6:38:41 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> This trend has galloped off into some sort of

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

"Believe" is a bad word in the scientific method. Unacceptable. Falsifiable hypothesis is the substitute for "belief" - which means ya gotta test the hypothesis to determine whether it's true or false.  Sorry, blind true belief in anecdotal evidence is no substitute. Sorry Cosmin, YOU ignore

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 7:13:55 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 6:38:41 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> ... >> This trend has galloped off into some sort of nonsense. Some of these >> people are fairly well known, such as Dowkers, Wharton, Sorkin

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 6:38:41 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > ... > This trend has galloped off into some sort of nonsense. Some of these > people are fairly well known, such as Dowkers, Wharton, Sorkin and Deutsch, > but they have all gone into some sort of fantasy land. It is

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 1:14:32 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:53 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > >> On 10 Jun 2019, at 08:54, Bruce Kellett > >> wrote: >> > > >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 4:34 PM Philip Thrift > > wrote: >> >> Retrocausal hidden variable models are

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 2:06 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> *with Mechanism* [...] >> >> >> >> Bruno, you use that word a lot, and I mean a LOT, but I'm still not >> sure what you mean. I don't want you to give me your definition I want you >> to give me examples of what you think it is and what

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

Yeah, sure, ok. On Tuesday, 11 June 2019 12:26:01 UTC+3, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > Path Integral Monte Carlo. > > (In theory, that is.) > > @philipthrift > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 3:12:23 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:45:38 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 5:34 PM Philip Thrift wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:00:43 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 3:53:37 AM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > How do you emulate the collapse of the wave-function ? > Path Integral Monte Carlo. (In theory, that is.) @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List"

Re: What is computing?

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, at 20:22, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 11:54:42 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 6 Jun 2019, at 19:34, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> wrote: >>> [... *stuff on libertarianism*] >>> >>> I'm reminded of Bruno's theory that

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

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Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 3:12:23 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:45:38 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 5:34 PM Philip Thrift wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:00:43 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:45:38 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 5:34 PM Philip Thrift > wrote: > >> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:00:43 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 4:28 PM Philip Thrift >>> wrote: >>> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 5:34 PM Philip Thrift wrote: > On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:00:43 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 4:28 PM Philip Thrift wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 1:14:32 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:53 PM Bruno

Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 1:17:49 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > Any religion/science claiming truth is a fraud. > > Bruno > > > Amen. @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List"

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:00:43 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 4:28 PM Philip Thrift > wrote: > >> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 1:14:32 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:53 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 10 Jun 2019, at 08:54, Bruce Kellett

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 1:06:37 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 9 Jun 2019, at 14:38, John Clark > > wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 11:03 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > *with Mechanism* [...] > > > Bruno, you use that word a lot, and I mean a LOT, but I'm still not sure >

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 4:28 PM Philip Thrift wrote: > On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 1:14:32 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:53 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 10 Jun 2019, at 08:54, Bruce Kellett wrote: >>> >> >> >>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 4:34 PM Philip Thrift >>>

Re: What is computing?

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 12:42:30 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 9 Jun 2019, at 22:00, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 10:11:37 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 7 Jun 2019, at 20:22, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, June 7, 2019 at

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

Of course, I also believe the same. But these crackpots here obsessively ask for evidence, even though they totally ignore them, like in a mental hospital. So I gave them those evidence that so dearly long to ignore them. On Tuesday, 11 June 2019 00:50:48 UTC+3, Alan Grayson wrote: > > *I

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 1:14:32 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:53 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > >> On 10 Jun 2019, at 08:54, Bruce Kellett > >> wrote: >> > > >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 4:34 PM Philip Thrift > > wrote: >> >> Retrocausal hidden variable models are

Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity

> On 9 Jun 2019, at 15:45, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 11:44:11 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 3 Jun 2019, at 16:21, Lawrence Crowell > > wrote: >> >> On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 6:01:05 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 3 Jun 2019, at 04:59,

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:53 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 10 Jun 2019, at 08:54, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 4:34 PM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > Retrocausal hidden variable models are completely compatible with >> experiments, unless QM itself is wrong. >> > > If

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

> On 9 Jun 2019, at 14:38, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 11:03 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > with Mechanism [...] > > Bruno, you use that word a lot, and I mean a LOT, but I'm still not sure what > you mean. I don't want you to give me your