Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 5:22 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 3/5/2020 10:07 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:33 AM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:08 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < >> everyth

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On 3/5/2020 10:07 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:33 AM Bruce Kellett > wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:08 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> wrote: On 3/5/2020 3:33 PM, Bruce Kellet

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:33 AM Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:08 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> On 3/5/2020 3:33 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> >> No, it doesn't. Just think about what each observer sees from within his >> b

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:08 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 3/5/2020 3:33 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:18 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> On 3/5/2020 2:01 PM, Br

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:14 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 3/5/2020 3:44 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > OR postulate that the splits are into many copies so that the branch count >> gives the Born statistics. >> > > > That has possibilities, bu

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On 3/5/2020 3:44 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: OR postulate that the splits are into many copies so that the branch count gives the Born statistics. That has possibilities, but I think it cannot work either. After all, each observer just sees a sequence of results -- he is unaware of o

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On 3/5/2020 3:33 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:18 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: On 3/5/2020 2:01 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 8:17 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List mailto:everyt

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:15 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 3/5/2020 1:57 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 8:08 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> On 3/5/2020 2:45 AM, Bru

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:18 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 3/5/2020 2:01 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 8:17 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> On 3/5/2020 3:07 AM, Bru

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On 3/5/2020 2:01 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 8:17 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: On 3/5/2020 3:07 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: there is no "weight" that differentiates different branches. Then th

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On 3/5/2020 1:57 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 8:08 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: On 3/5/2020 2:45 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: Now sequences with small departures from equal numbers will still give probabil

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 8:17 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 3/5/2020 3:07 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > there is no "weight" that differentiates different branches. >> >> >> Then the Born rule is false, and the whole of QM is false. >> > > No, Q

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 8:08 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 3/5/2020 2:45 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > Now sequences with small departures from equal numbers will still give > probabilities within the confidence interval of p = 0.5. But this

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On 3/5/2020 3:07 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: there is no "weight" that differentiates different branches. Then the Born rule is false, and the whole of QM is false. No, QM is not false. It is only Everett that is disconfirmed by experiment. Everett + mechanism + Gleason do sol

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On 3/5/2020 2:45 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: Now sequences with small departures from equal numbers will still give probabilities within the confidence interval of p = 0.5. But this confidence interval also shrinks as 1/sqrt(N) as N increases, so these additional sequences do not contribute a

Re: Horizons protect Church-Turing

There seems to be a bit of a gell-mould setting that is at work. This and related ideas are appearing in a number of places. Read my paper on the FQXi contest https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3392 and my final comment has a loose summary of some of this. The MIC = ER is interesting as we

Scientists “film” a quantum measurement (?)

https://www.su.se/english/research/research-news/scientists-film-a-quantum-measurement-1.487234 https://journals.aps.org/prl/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.124.080401 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group an

Re: More on MIP="RE"

I am thinking about how this has some duality with Hogarth-Malament spacetimes and hypercomputation. If spacetime is a large N-entanglement coherence or condensate then these should bear some relationship with each other. LC On Wednesday, March 4, 2020 at 2:43:37 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote:

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:05 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 5 Mar 2020, at 05:52, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 3:23 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> On 3/4/2020 7:54 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:02

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:59 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 5 Mar 2020, at 04:54, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:02 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> On 3/4/2020 6:45 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 1:34

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

> On 5 Mar 2020, at 05:52, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 3:23 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > On 3/4/2020 7:54 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:02 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >> mailto

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:46 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 5 Mar 2020, at 01:40, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:39 AM Stathis Papaioannou > wrote: > >> On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 at 09:46, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> >>> >>> The greater problem is that any idea of probability founders wh

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

> On 5 Mar 2020, at 04:54, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:02 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > On 3/4/2020 6:45 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 1:34 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >> mailto

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:39 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 5 Mar 2020, at 00:39, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > I think it worth noting that to some people it is obvious that if an > entity is to be duplicated in two places it should have a 1/2 expectation > of finding itself in one or other pla

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

> On 5 Mar 2020, at 01:40, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:39 AM Stathis Papaioannou > wrote: > On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 at 09:46, Bruce Kellett > wrote: > > The greater problem is that any idea of probability founders when

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 5:26 PM Russell Standish wrote: > On Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 11:34:55AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:39 AM Russell Standish > wrote: > > > > ISTM - probability is all about what an observer observes. Since the > > observer cannot see all o

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

> On 5 Mar 2020, at 00:39, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > > On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 at 09:46, Bruce Kellett > wrote: > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:31 AM Stathis Papaioannou > wrote: > On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 at 08:54, Bruce Kellett