On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:46 PM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 5 Mar 2020, at 01:40, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:39 AM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 at 09:46, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> The greater problem is that any idea of probability founders when all >>> outcomes occur for any measurement. Or have you not followed the arguments >>> I have been making that shows this to be the case? >>> >> >> I think it worth noting that to some people it is obvious that if an >> entity is to be duplicated in two places it should have a 1/2 expectation >> of finding itself in one or other place while to other people it is obvious >> that there should be no such expectation. >> > > > Hence my point that intuition is usually faulty in such cases -- the > straightforward testing of any intuition with repeated trials shows the > unreliability of such intuitions. > > > It did not. You were confusing the first person account with the third > person account. > Bullshit. There is no such confusion. You are just using a rhetorical flourish to avoid facing the real issues. > QM predicts that all measurement outcome are obtained, and by linearity, > that all observers obtained could not have predicted it, for the same > reason nobody can predict the outcome in the WM self)duplication > experience. Those who claim the contrary have to say at some point that the > Helsinki guy has died, but then Mechanism is refuted. > Of course no one can predict the outcome of a quantum spin measurement on a random spin-half particle. Just as no one can predict the his 1p outcome in WM-duplication. That is the point I have been making -- there is no useful notion of probability available in either case. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLT1V8Pbe%2BCkHQbNKdDy005rk0B%2BxeoC_Tizd%3Dsw7YchFQ%40mail.gmail.com.
