Re: 'Mind Space' metaphor - relation between Symbolic, Bayesian and Analogical inference

2010-01-01 Thread Mike Dougherty
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:13 AM, marc.geddes marc.ged...@gmail.com wrote: I think Penrose is nonsense if taken literally, he's looking at the wrong level of organization, mind has got nothing to do with fundamental physics directly I think. But speaking *metaphorically* it can lead to good

Re: 'Mind Space' metaphor - relation between Symbolic, Bayesian and Analogical inference

2009-12-31 Thread marc.geddes
On Dec 31 2009, 5:10 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: You may be right. But it is still an open problem to just define   probability (except the probability one) in the mechanist settting. Rich metaphor, but a promise for a lot of work, to make this precise   enough in the

Re: 'Mind Space' metaphor - relation between Symbolic, Bayesian and Analogical inference

2009-12-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
You may be right. But it is still an open problem to just define probability (except the probability one) in the mechanist settting. Rich metaphor, but a promise for a lot of work, to make this precise enough in the mechanist frame. It would mean that not only we have a measure (and a linear

Re: 'Mind Space' metaphor - relation between Symbolic, Bayesian and Analogical inference

2009-12-30 Thread John Mikes
Dear Marc, you emerged from the conventional figment of a 'physical world' view and elevated into the concept of mind (what I don't know where, what and how to define...) - anyway, to think in mental terms instead of the conventional physical figments. Then you use the complacent terms of the