Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

2012-08-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Aug 2012, at 00:27, RMahoney wrote: Bruno wrote: And my (older) definition asks for one more thing: it is that the subject know (is aware or is conscious) about that inability and that he can still make the decision. There is a reflexion on the possibilities. If not, all non

Re: Physics and Tautology.

2012-08-02 Thread ronaldheld
If this universe has zero net energy charge and angular momemtum, I see no problem being created via a chaotic inflation scenario. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: Physics and Tautology.

2012-08-02 Thread Stephen P. King
Hi Ronald, I have a severe problem with this entire thread! What exactly determines the particular properties, such as charge, angular momentum, mass, etc., of this universe? Why are we assuming that the choice of what went into the zero net sum is a prior definite and constrained.

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-08-02 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Alberto, I have one more question. On 31.07.2012 11:08 Alberto G. Corona said the following: Evgenii, great questions 2012/7/30 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru On 30.07.2012 11:19 Alberto G. Corona said the following: ... Let us say that there is some conglomerate of atoms. When it

Re: Free will: a definition

2012-08-02 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
I do not want to suggest a definition, but have a question concerning comp frame. When I improvise, often in Jazz or Rock context the free will question becomes fuzzy in this way: Sometimes you hit a point where all the patterns/formulas you've learned; i.e. the kind of stuff you can play in your

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

2012-08-02 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: The problem is I have no conception of free will and neither do you nor does anybody else, at least not a consistent coherent one that has any depth. This contradicts your own definition of free will that you already find much

Re: Physics and Tautology.

2012-08-02 Thread meekerdb
On 8/2/2012 12:18 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: Hi Ronald, I have a severe problem with this entire thread! What exactly determines the particular properties, such as charge, angular momentum, mass, etc., of this universe? They are conserved quantities, so if they are zero now it

Memories of Kurt Godel

2012-08-02 Thread Jason Resch
I came across this today, which I thought others on this list might enjoy http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2012/08/01/memories-of-kurt-godel/ Among other things Godel mentions a belief in the illusion of time, compatibilist free will, Platonism, oneness of reality and mind. Jason -- You

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-08-02 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Evgenn I have not much time this week. I just added a paragraph below. I will ask this with more detail later: 2012/8/2 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru Alberto, I have one more question. On 31.07.2012 11:08 Alberto G. Corona said the following: Evgenii, great questions 2012/7/30

Re: Free will: a definition

2012-08-02 Thread Russell Standish
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 01:24:59PM -0400, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.auwrote: Flipping a coin is never rational, although it may well be the best thing to do. I don't know what to make of that. If X is the best way to achieve a

Re: Free will: a definition

2012-08-02 Thread Russell Standish
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 09:17:00AM -0700, meekerdb wrote: From the responses I've received on this list, I don't think people are using the term rational in the same way it is used in economics. Flipping a coin is never rational, although it may well be the best thing to do. Random moves are

Re: Free will: a definition

2012-08-02 Thread meekerdb
On 8/2/2012 3:38 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 01:24:59PM -0400, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Russell Standishli...@hpcoders.com.auwrote: Flipping a coin is never rational, although it may well be the best thing to do. I don't know what to make of

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-08-02 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Evgnii,. The question is that the mind is not the brain in the same way that Microsoft Word running in a computer ins not the computer. The intuitive notion of location of our self, our mind behind de eyes and thus inside the skull is not a mere derivation of the fact that the brain is located

Re: Free will: a definition

2012-08-02 Thread meekerdb
On 8/2/2012 3:55 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 09:17:00AM -0700, meekerdb wrote: From the responses I've received on this list, I don't think people are using the term rational in the same way it is used in economics. Flipping a coin is never rational, although it may

Re: Free will: a definition

2012-08-02 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 04:46:07PM -0700, meekerdb wrote: But then to compete with other agents it may well be optimum to adopt a random policy and flip a coin. Of course. But rationality is not just about doing the optimal thing, its about knowing what is the optimal thing to do, and then

Re: Physics and Tautology.

2012-08-02 Thread Stephen P. King
On 8/2/2012 5:06 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 8/2/2012 12:18 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: Hi Ronald, I have a severe problem with this entire thread! What exactly determines the particular properties, such as charge, angular momentum, mass, etc., of this universe? They are conserved

Re: Memories of Kurt Godel

2012-08-02 Thread Stephen P. King
On 8/2/2012 5:26 PM, Jason Resch wrote: I came across this today, which I thought others on this list might enjoy http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2012/08/01/memories-of-kurt-godel/ Among other things Godel mentions a belief in the illusion of time, compatibilist free will, Platonism, oneness

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-08-02 Thread meekerdb
On 8/2/2012 4:43 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: We think thar our self is in the head because in this way we control better ourselves and we can react to inmediate dangers better.( That is why fighter pilots, that need heavy feedback and agile movements fly with their machines, while the spy and