Re: Democracy

2014-12-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:32 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 December 2014 at 23:02, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: They also failed to foresee that hand-held weapons would become so powerful. Are you

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:12 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Why didn't Churchill revolt? Well... He was a Tory and born into the nobility, part of an illustrious family, as well as being the Prime Minister who led the UK to victory against the Nazis. That probably made him feel

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread John Clark
Somebody said that they didn't want to sign up for Cryonics because they were worried about ending up as a brain in a vat, and in any case they believed in Everett's Many Worlds so it is unnecessary. Well, if Everett is correct then you've already signed up for Cryonics in some universe and you

RE: Natural gas: The fracking fallacy

2014-12-20 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
In depth article in Nature warning against the current unfounded euphoric optimism regarding the scale of the future supply of shale gas (oil). This is a long in depth article based on a Texas study that has taken a much finer grained look at reserves than the EIA did and based on their much

Re: Intelligence Consciousness

2014-12-20 Thread zibblequibble
On Friday, December 12, 2014 5:45:04 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:33 AM, zibble...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I apologize for this unreadable drivel But with a real flare for writing unreadable drivel you could go far in the psychology or philosophy

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread Bruce Kellett
John Clark wrote: Somebody said that they didn't want to sign up for Cryonics because they were worried about ending up as a brain in a vat, and in any case they believed in Everett's Many Worlds so it is unnecessary. Well, if Everett is correct then you've already signed up for Cryonics in

Re: Seeking astrophysicist willing to help an author

2014-12-20 Thread zibblequibble
On Friday, December 19, 2014 11:48:34 AM UTC, Pierz wrote: So a close friend of mine is a novelist whose latest book has a supernova in it. It's not a sci fi novel and the supernova is really quite secondary but provides a nice backdrop to the literary main fare. I've read the manuscript

Re: Democracy

2014-12-20 Thread zibblequibble
On Saturday, December 20, 2014 5:36:08 AM UTC, Jason wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:24 PM, meekerdb meek...@verizon.net javascript: wrote: On 12/19/2014 4:58 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, LizR liz...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On 19 December

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote: What's wrong with oblivion? It's just not my cup of tea, but if you feel differently that's fine, there is no disputing maters of taste. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Intelligence Consciousness

2014-12-20 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:07 PM, zibblequib...@gmail.com wrote: Part of how you sum up your core insight: that consciousness has no detectable objective reality No, I'm saying that consciousness DOES have a detectable objective reality if and only if it's a brute fact that consciousness is

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread Samiya Illias
On 21-Dec-2014, at 6:30 am, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote: What's wrong with oblivion? It's just not my cup of tea, but if you feel differently that's fine, there is no disputing maters of taste.

I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote: John Clark wrote: Somebody said that they didn't want to sign up for Cryonics because they were worried about ending up as a brain in a vat, and in any case they believed in Everett's Many Worlds so it is

Re: Intelligence Consciousness

2014-12-20 Thread meekerdb
On 12/20/2014 6:19 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:07 PM, zibblequib...@gmail.com mailto:zibblequib...@gmail.com wrote: Part of how you sum up your core insight: that consciousness has no detectable objective reality No, I'm saying that consciousness DOES have a

Re: Intelligence Consciousness

2014-12-20 Thread Jason Resch
As with split brain patients and other humans, if some part of the brain isn't connected to the part of the brain that talks, we really can't conclude those other parts doing other processing are unconscious. It's like me concluding your not conscious because I don't know what your thinking. It's

Re: Seeking astrophysicist willing to help an author

2014-12-20 Thread Pierz
On Saturday, December 20, 2014 3:03:45 AM UTC+5:45, Liz R wrote: Well I happen to know someone with a bachelor degree in astrophysics if that's any help. And the first and most crucial question is, how close is the SN to Earth? Right. I've been looking into that and decided around 150ly

Re: Seeking astrophysicist willing to help an author

2014-12-20 Thread Pierz
On Sunday, December 21, 2014 3:17:15 AM UTC+5:45, zibble...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, December 19, 2014 11:48:34 AM UTC, Pierz wrote:So a close friend of mine is a novelist whose latest book has a supernova in it. It's not a sci fi novel and the supernova is really quite secondary but

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread Bruce Kellett
John Clark wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au What's wrong with oblivion? It's just not my cup of tea, but if you feel differently that's fine, there is no disputing maters of taste. If you are made total oblivious -- enter oblivion -- you are no

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread Bruce Kellett
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote: John Clark wrote: Somebody said that they didn't want to sign up for Cryonics because they were worried about ending up as a brain in a vat, and in any case