Re: Quantum Immortality = no second law

2008-04-18 Thread nichomachus
On Apr 17, 1:21 pm, Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Telmo Menezes wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>  Are you saying that the second law is verified in each of all > >>  "branches" of the (quantum) multiverse? > > > I'm not sayin

Re: The prestige

2008-04-18 Thread nichomachus
On Apr 17, 5:17 am, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le 16-avr.-08, à 15:13, nichomachus (Steve) a écrit : > > > The Prestige, with Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman, Michael Caine, Andy > > Serkis and David Bowie as Nikola Tesla... I also highly recommend > > this very entertaining mov

Re: Quantum Immortality = no second law

2008-04-18 Thread nichomachus
On first blush, it would seem to be irrelevant to the fact that there are possible histories in which the second law is not found to hold. All the atom and rifle apparatus does is eliminate the living subject in those branches where the decay occurs, leaving the subject alive in only the unlikely

Re: Quantum Immortality = no second law

2008-04-18 Thread nichomachus
On Apr 16, 11:16 am, "Quentin Anciaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > HI, > > 2008/4/16, nichomachus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > >  On Apr 16, 4:54 am, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >  > Le 16-avr.-08, à 03:24, Russell Standish a écrit : > >  > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 02:22

Re: Quantum Immortality = no second law

2008-04-18 Thread Telmo Menezes
> > entropy is increasing as normal > > because of the preparation and maintenance of the apparatus needed for > > the experiment. > > > > Do you think this makes sense? > > > I am not sure I understand. I do agree with Brent Meker's comment > though. If you agree with him, take his answer

Re: Quantum Immortality = no second law

2008-04-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 17-avr.-08, à 19:45, Telmo Menezes a écrit : > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Are you saying that the second law is verified in each of all >> "branches" of the (quantum) multiverse? > > I'm not saying that. OK. Sorry. > >> I would sa

Re: Quantum Immortality = no second law

2008-04-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 17-avr.-08, à 18:21, Günther Greindl a écrit : > David Deutsch argues in Fabric of Reality that only the Multiverse > conserves quantity (not single branches). The rest is probabilistic > stuff (see Bruno's post) Yes. And I think Deutsch has the most correct "interpretation" of Everett's th

Re: Greg Egan's Permutation City was: The prestige

2008-04-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 17-avr.-08, à 18:15, Günther Greindl a écrit : > > I read the Wikipedia of "The prestige" (too lazy to watch the movie ;-) > and, yes, it's classical comp stuff *grin* > > What I would like to recommend to everybody on the list is Greg Egan's > book > > Permutation City Yes that is a very

Re: Quantum Immortality = no second law

2008-04-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi John, Le 17-avr.-08, à 16:48, John Mikes a écrit : > Bruno, ashamed, because I decided many times not to barge into topics > I do not understand and now I misuse your (and the list's) patience > again: > > you use "statistical". - "verified in MOST branches". > I think my view is not too