Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Dec 2009, at 14:16, soulcatcher☠ wrote: Hi all, every time I read about the anthropic reasoning in physics I can't help asking the more general question: Why I am I, not somebody else? Why I see through _this_ eyes, am confined to _this_ brain, was born in _this_ year, etc? This

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-03 Thread soulcatcher☠
x This raises the question of how many first person exists. I like the idea that the answer is one. We may be all the universal person appearing and reappearing like if we were already duplicated many times, which makes sense given that we come from the same amoeba. We are like a god who lost

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-03 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/12/3 soulcatcher☠ soulcatche...@gmail.com: On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: If you were Elvis and Elvis were you, what difference would that make to anything? That would make a huge difference for me and Elvis - my (and his) subjective

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-03 Thread soulcatcher☠
Apparently it did not work. I am bruno marchal now! Please swish again! :) No! I am Bruno Marchal! Pliz get me out of here :) Do you see the problem in the above exchange? It assumes there is some metaphysical me and you that can be conceptualised as flitting about from one body and mind

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Dec 2009, at 12:12, soulcatcher☠ wrote: x This raises the question of how many first person exists. I like the idea that the answer is one. We may be all the universal person appearing and reappearing like if we were already duplicated many times, which makes sense given that

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-03 Thread Brent Meeker
soulcatcher wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi soulcatcher, Good question, it is something I thought about too, then I realized I am me because it was this brain in my skull asking that question. I created the attached image to help

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-03 Thread Brent Meeker
soulcatcher wrote: Lets consider two "hard" questions - "why do we live in THIS universe?" (1) and "why am I me?" (2). (1) . Why do we live in THIS universe? Here we got: - string theory and anthropic reasoning present us with a landscape of 10^(10^N) universes that we can choose

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-03 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2009/12/3 soulcatcher☠ soulcatche...@gmail.com: On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: If you were Elvis and Elvis were you, what difference would that make to anything? That would

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-03 Thread Rex Allen
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: Science advances in small steps that often depend on technology.  I think the next 'hard' question that has some chance of being answered is, what information processes are necessary and sufficient  to produce

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-03 Thread Brent Meeker
Rex Allen wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: Science advances in small steps that often depend on technology. I think the next 'hard' question that has some chance of being answered is, what information processes are necessary and sufficient

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Dec 2009, at 19:56, Brent Meeker wrote: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2009/12/3 soulcatcher☠ soulcatche...@gmail.com: On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: If you were Elvis and Elvis were you, what difference would that make to anything?

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-03 Thread Brent Meeker
Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Dec 2009, at 19:56, Brent Meeker wrote: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2009/12/3 soulcatcher☠ soulcatche...@gmail.com: On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: If