On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi soulcatcher, Good question, it is something I thought about too, then I realized I am me because it was this brain in my skull asking that question. I created the attached image to help illustrate my point. If each person asks that question "why am I me?" another way of phrasing their question is "Why am I seeing the universe from this perspective and not someone else's?" If you follow the thought bubbles in the picture you see it leads to a head which is connected to a specific pair of eyes, it would only be natural that the individual isolated brains only remember seeing from one person's perspective, and just as natural for them to be curious about that fact. However when looked at from this perspective the answer seems quite obvious.It's definitely not obvious for me ) If I understand you right, you're trying to answer the question from 3-d person view, but I really don't see how subjective 1-st person experience could emerge from (or be reduced to) 3-d person description of this experience. I'm comfortable with the thought that other people aren't zombies and ask the same questions as I do, but I still don't understand why I'm having this 1-st person experience but not that.
Another more interesting question: How do you know you aren't also perceiving those other people's perspectives too? Obviously no individual brain remembers the thoughts or experiences of the others because there are no neural connections between them (like split brain patients who develop two egos) but just because you don't remember experiencing something doesn't mean you didn't experience it.I always thought that my consciousness (and qualia, 1-st person experience) is by definition the perspective that I'm not only having right now but knowing that I'm having it (here I strongly agree with Damasio that consciousness is not separable from the knowing about the feeling). Therefore, by definition, I'm not perceiving those other people's perspectives - because If I perceived them, I would have known that, these perspectives would be not their but my perspective - but they are not. Moreover, this is the only thing that I'm sure about - cause my perspective is the one and the only perspective I know. Bruno Marchal said (and I really love this quote): "Any content of consciousness can be an illusion. Consciousness itself cannot, because without consciousness there is no more illusion at all. " In the other words, I can say that my 1-st person perspective cannot be an illusion and, as the other people's perspectives aren't part of it, I'm sure that I'm not perceiving them...
The "illusion" is not the perspective; it's the "I".
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